Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do you do when duality enters your mind like negative thoughts, judgemental thoughts? Answer: Recite a mantra. As soon as you notice a negative thought creeping in recite any mantra and do continouus japa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 svahaa! we are in tune. today i was thinking this very thing. then i did om namah shivaya. thanks for keeping us posted with maa's words parvati! steve , "parv108" <parv108> wrote: > Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do you do when duality > enters your mind like negative thoughts, judgemental thoughts? > Answer: Recite a mantra. As soon as you notice a negative thought > creeping in recite any mantra and do continouus japa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Parvatu, Thanks, this re-affirms what I do with my mantra practice. Its good to know that Shree Maa as said this herself. --- parv108 <parv108 wrote: > Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do you do > when duality > enters your mind like negative thoughts, judgemental > thoughts? > Answer: Recite a mantra. As soon as you notice a > negative thought > creeping in recite any mantra and do continouus > japa. > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo./sbc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 How efficient are mantras, and is it a problem if we recite them less than perfectly? Answer: A learned Brahmin, from Guntur who was a ghanaapaaThigal, went to the acharya of sringeri and poured out his woes. he said that he married 3 times till then, but some how all his three wifes dies soon after marriage, and he being a grihastha into yagnas and yagas, could not be without a wife , as a wife had certain important functions in a yajna. He told the acharyal, that he recited the sapthashathi daily, in addition to his japas and pooja. The acharyal, an unparallel Srividyopasaka, went about and divined the problem. He asked the ghanaapaaThigal to repeat the kavacha of sapthashathi. The ghanaapaaThigal, told the same and acharyal, pointed out the reason for his wives death. GhanaapaaThi sundara shastri avadhanigal, was telling "baaryaam bhakshathu bhairavii"... instead of "rakshathu bhairavii", which lead to the wives death. I hope this illustration gives us a picture of mantra shastra and its importance. likewise when saptashatii is learnt from a sat guru and if recited properly it is equally capable of bestowing bhogaa and moksha. 12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes">JAI AMBE 12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes"> 12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes"> 12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes">REGARDS 12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:black;mso-no-proof:yes">Jay dayal, color:black;mso-no-proof:yes">Fiji font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";color:blue"> -----Original Message----- Jose Rosa [master4114 ] Tahoma">Tuesday, May 18, 2004 font-family:Tahoma">9:30 AM Re: Recite a mantra Parvatu, mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New""> Thanks, this re-affirms what I do with my mantra practice. Its good to know that Shree Maa as said this herself. --- parv108 <parv108 > wrote: > Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do you do > when duality > enters your mind like negative thoughts, judgemental > thoughts? > Answer: Recite a mantra. As soon as you notice a > negative thought > creeping in recite any mantra and do continouus > japa. > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo./sbc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I read this posting over and over... I am still trying to figure out the meaning of it. I guess the questions that come to my mind are: 1 what is your point? 2 Are we not to recite our chosen mantras? 3 Did you learn to correctly pronounce the mantra? 4 which mantra are you refering to? 5 Do you personally know someone that has had a calamity because of wrong recitration? The below story seems to me to be irrelevant to the advice given by Shree Maa. --- Jay Dayal <dayals wrote: > > How efficient are mantras, and is it a problem if we > recite them less > than perfectly? > > > Answer: > A learned Brahmin, from Guntur who was a > ghanaapaaThigal, went to the > acharya of sringeri and poured out his woes. he said > that he married 3 > times till then, but some how all his three wifes > dies soon after > marriage, and he being a grihastha into yagnas and > yagas, could not be > without a wife , as a wife had certain important > functions in a yajna. > He told the acharyal, that he recited the > sapthashathi daily, in > addition to his japas and pooja. The acharyal, an > unparallel > Srividyopasaka, went about and divined the problem. > He asked the > ghanaapaaThigal to repeat the kavacha of > sapthashathi. The > ghanaapaaThigal, told the same and acharyal, pointed > out the reason for > his wives death. GhanaapaaThi sundara shastri > avadhanigal, was telling > "baaryaam bhakshathu bhairavii"... instead of > "rakshathu bhairavii", > which lead to the wives death. I hope this > illustration gives us a > picture of mantra shastra and its importance. > likewise when saptashatii is learnt from a sat guru > and if recited > properly it is equally capable of bestowing bhogaa > and moksha. > > > > JAI AMBE > > > REGARDS > Jay dayal, Fiji > > Jose Rosa [master4114] > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:30 AM > > Re: Recite a mantra > > Parvatu, > > Thanks, this re-affirms what I do with my mantra > practice. Its good to know that Shree Maa as said > this > herself. > > > --- parv108 <parv108 wrote: > > Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do you > do > > when duality > > enters your mind like negative thoughts, > judgemental > > thoughts? > > Answer: Recite a mantra. As soon as you notice a > > negative thought > > creeping in recite any mantra and do continouus > > japa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price. > http://promo./sbc/ > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > <http://rd./SIG=1294tklhs/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=gr > oups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1084915960/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/c > ompanion.> click here > > > <http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group > s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=965465086> > > _____ > > Links > * > / > > * To from this group, send an > email to: > > <?subject=Un> > > > * Your use of is subject to > the Terms of > Service <> . > Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions./offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Regarding the dilemma of the "learned Brahmin" who kept losing wives because of his faulty pronunciation:Perhaps he was practicing Tantrik mantra recitation in order to gain some kind of siddhis and doing this without the "protective instruction" of a Tantrik guru. Or perhaps his bad attitude towards his wives was the cause of his problem (thinking of them as only "necessary to fulfill certain important yagna functions") or perhaps he was creating the problem with his own fear. I have seen, again and again, the bad results of practicing anything as powerful as mantra repitition or homa with a grasping attitude or with an attitude of superstition and fear. The "bad results" that I have seen have not been as dramatic as death in the family but, rather, mental confusion, increased self- regard, selfishness, narcissism and a disregard for the feelings of others. All of these practices are very powerful..every single one of them...the one criteria that is critical is an attiude of LOVE not an attitude of fear and superstition. Otherwise, you remain trapped in the outer form of worship and never even begin to understand that it's about DEVOTION ot DESIRE. sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 All: Here is some points I have kept with me: God is Love My thankful prayer to God: THANK YOU GOD I LOVE YOU GOD GOD I LOVE YOU Devotion to the Mantra: Devotion to the Mantra The Mantra is itself Devata One principle element of Bhakti is Mantra Japa In Mantra Yoga it is always the intent that matters. The Goal: Goal of Life is God-Realization --- nityashakti <sadhvi wrote: > Regarding the dilemma of the "learned Brahmin" who > kept losing wives > because of his faulty pronunciation:Perhaps he was > practicing > Tantrik mantra recitation in order to gain some kind > of siddhis and > doing this without the "protective instruction" of a > Tantrik guru. > Or perhaps his bad attitude towards his wives was > the cause of his > problem (thinking of them as only "necessary to > fulfill certain > important yagna functions") or perhaps he was > creating the problem > with his own fear. I have seen, again and again, the > bad results of > practicing anything as powerful as mantra repitition > or homa with a > grasping attitude or with an attitude of > superstition and fear. > The "bad results" that I have seen have not been as > dramatic as > death in the family but, rather, mental confusion, > increased self- > regard, selfishness, narcissism and a disregard for > the feelings of > others. All of these practices are very > powerful..every single one > of them...the one criteria that is critical is an > attiude of LOVE > not an attitude of fear and superstition. Otherwise, > you remain > trapped in the outer form of worship and never even > begin to > understand that it's about DEVOTION ot DESIRE. > sadhvi > > > Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions./offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 y'all are awesome. know that? you are. on the path. on the path. what else matters? how far we are on it? no! just that we are on it. it accelerates with the correct company. we are on the path but not alone. the gurus are here. god is here. you are here. om shalom. victory to you all. s , Jose Rosa <master4114> wrote: > All: > > Here is some points I have kept with me: > > God is Love > > My thankful prayer to God: > > THANK YOU GOD > I LOVE YOU GOD > GOD I LOVE YOU > > Devotion to the Mantra: > > Devotion to the Mantra > The Mantra is itself Devata > One principle element of Bhakti is Mantra Japa > In Mantra Yoga it is always the intent that matters. > > The Goal: > > Goal of Life is God-Realization > > > > --- nityashakti <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > > Regarding the dilemma of the "learned Brahmin" who > > kept losing wives > > because of his faulty pronunciation:Perhaps he was > > practicing > > Tantrik mantra recitation in order to gain some kind > > of siddhis and > > doing this without the "protective instruction" of a > > Tantrik guru. > > Or perhaps his bad attitude towards his wives was > > the cause of his > > problem (thinking of them as only "necessary to > > fulfill certain > > important yagna functions") or perhaps he was > > creating the problem > > with his own fear. I have seen, again and again, the > > bad results of > > practicing anything as powerful as mantra repitition > > or homa with a > > grasping attitude or with an attitude of > > superstition and fear. > > The "bad results" that I have seen have not been as > > dramatic as > > death in the family but, rather, mental confusion, > > increased self- > > regard, selfishness, narcissism and a disregard for > > the feelings of > > others. All of these practices are very > > powerful..every single one > > of them...the one criteria that is critical is an > > attiude of LOVE > > not an attitude of fear and superstition. Otherwise, > > you remain > > trapped in the outer form of worship and never even > > begin to > > understand that it's about DEVOTION ot DESIRE. > > sadhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year > http://smallbusiness.promotions./offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Such things happen only for Kamya prayogas and not for simple recitals. The said scholar was most likely doing a prayoga with some object with mind and hence the effect. For normal recital such things cant happen. Rgds , "Jay Dayal" <dayals@c...> wrote: > > How efficient are mantras, and is it a problem if we recite them less > than perfectly? > > > Answer: > A learned Brahmin, from Guntur who was a ghanaapaaThigal, went to the > acharya of sringeri and poured out his woes. he said that he married 3 > times till then, but some how all his three wifes dies soon after > marriage, and he being a grihastha into yagnas and yagas, could not be > without a wife , as a wife had certain important functions in a yajna. > He told the acharyal, that he recited the sapthashathi daily, in > addition to his japas and pooja. The acharyal, an unparallel > Srividyopasaka, went about and divined the problem. He asked the > ghanaapaaThigal to repeat the kavacha of sapthashathi. The > ghanaapaaThigal, told the same and acharyal, pointed out the reason for > his wives death. GhanaapaaThi sundara shastri avadhanigal, was telling > "baaryaam bhakshathu bhairavii"... instead of "rakshathu bhairavii", > which lead to the wives death. I hope this illustration gives us a > picture of mantra shastra and its importance. > likewise when saptashatii is learnt from a sat guru and if recited > properly it is equally capable of bestowing bhogaa and moksha. > > > > JAI AMBE > > > REGARDS > Jay dayal, Fiji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 10.0pt">Jose, 10.0pt"> l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 36.0pt"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"">1. IT’S A STORY THAT I GOT ON THE NET REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF saying MANTRAS CORRECTLY and thought to send to you all for your good- THAT IS THE POINT.... l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 36.0pt"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"">2. No you recite whatever you feel is best and what gets you closer to God and fulfills your desires. l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 36.0pt"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"">3. Yes, I know pronunciation of most of the mantras. Before reciting any mantra I make sure I know how to pronounce it properly. l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 36.0pt"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"">4. The mantra referred is from Chandi kavacham. Which I believe is very powerful. l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 36.0pt"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"">5. I personally do not know anyone who had any such calamity however the story I posted earlier was read by me in many places. Bhaaryam means wife. And rakshatu mean to protect. Bhakshatu means something like kill or kill and eat. Bhairavi is the goddess who is asked to protect your wife in chandi kavacham “bharayaa rakhshatu bhairavi”. Instead of rakhshatu he said bhakshatu according to the story and got whatever he said according to the mantra. 10.0pt"> 10.0pt">Regards 10.0pt">Jay 10.0pt"> 10.0pt"> 10.0pt"> 10.0pt"> 10.0pt"> 10.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes"> 10.0pt"> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-language:HI"> Jose Rosa [master4114 ] Friday, May 21, 2004 1:34 AM RE: Recite a mantra 10.0pt"> 10.0pt">I read this posting over and over... I am still trying 10.0pt">to figure out the meaning of it. 10.0pt"> 10.0pt">I guess the questions that come to my mind are: 10.0pt"> 10.0pt">1 what is your point? 10.0pt">2 Are we not to recite our chosen mantras? 10.0pt">3 Did you learn to correctly pronounce the mantra? 10.0pt">4 which mantra are you refering to? 10.0pt">5 Do you personally know someone that has had a 10.0pt">calamity because of wrong recitration? 10.0pt"> 10.0pt">The below story seems to me to be irrelevant to the 10.0pt">advice given by Shree Maa. 10.0pt"> 10.0pt"> 10.0pt"> 10.0pt">--- Jay Dayal <dayals (AT) connect (DOT) com.fj> wrote: 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> How efficient are mantras, and is it a problem if we 10.0pt">> recite them less 10.0pt">> than perfectly? 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> Answer: 10.0pt">> A learned Brahmin, from Guntur who was a 10.0pt">> ghanaapaaThigal, went to the 10.0pt">> acharya of sringeri and poured out his woes. he said 10.0pt">> that he married 3 10.0pt">> times till then, but some how all his three wifes 10.0pt">> dies soon after 10.0pt">> marriage, and he being a grihastha into yagnas and 10.0pt">> yagas, could not be 10.0pt">> without a wife , as a wife had certain important 10.0pt">> functions in a yajna. 10.0pt">> He told the acharyal, that he recited the 10.0pt">> sapthashathi daily, in 10.0pt">> addition to his japas and pooja. The acharyal, an 10.0pt">> unparallel 10.0pt">> Srividyopasaka, went about and divined the problem. 10.0pt">> He asked the 10.0pt">> ghanaapaaThigal to repeat the kavacha of 10.0pt">> sapthashathi. The 10.0pt">> ghanaapaaThigal, told the same and acharyal, pointed 10.0pt">> out the reason for 10.0pt">> his wives death. GhanaapaaThi sundara shastri 10.0pt">> avadhanigal, was telling 10.0pt">> "baaryaam bhakshathu bhairavii"... instead of 10.0pt">> "rakshathu bhairavii", 10.0pt">> which lead to the wives death. I hope this 10.0pt">> illustration gives us a 10.0pt">> picture of mantra shastra and its importance. 10.0pt">> likewise when saptashatii is learnt from a sat guru 10.0pt">> and if recited 10.0pt">> properly it is equally capable of bestowing bhogaa 10.0pt">> and moksha. 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> JAI AMBE 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> REGARDS 10.0pt">> Jay dayal, Fiji 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> Jose Rosa [master4114 ] 10.0pt">> Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:30 AM 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> Re: Recite a mantra 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> Parvatu, 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> Thanks, this re-affirms what I do with my mantra 10.0pt">> practice. Its good to know that Shree Maa as said 10.0pt">> this 10.0pt">> herself. 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> 10.0pt">> --- parv108 <parv108 > wrote: 10.0pt">> > Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do you 10.0pt">> do 10.0pt">> > when duality 10.0pt">> > enters your mind like negative thoughts, 10.0pt">> judgemental 10.0pt">> > thoughts? 10.0pt">> > Answer: Recite a mantra. 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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Based on Shree Maa's advice: 1 did you find it relevant to share a storry that does not have anything in common with Shree Maa's advice? 2 Are you assuming that some in this group are not pronouning the mantra correctly? 3 Why post a story that you do not know personally and cannot testify for yourself? --- Jay Dayal <dayals wrote: > Jose, > > 1. IT'S A STORY THAT I GOT ON THE NET REGARDING > THE IMPORTANCE OF > saying MANTRAS CORRECTLY and thought to send to you > all for your good- > THAT IS THE POINT.... > 2. No you recite whatever you feel is best and > what gets you closer > to God and fulfills your desires. > 3. Yes, I know pronunciation of most of the > mantras. Before reciting > any mantra I make sure I know how to pronounce it > properly. > 4. The mantra referred is from Chandi kavacham. > Which I believe is > very powerful. > 5. I personally do not know anyone who had any > such calamity however > the story I posted earlier was read by me in many > places. Bhaaryam means > wife. And rakshatu mean to protect. Bhakshatu means > something like kill > or kill and eat. Bhairavi is the goddess who is > asked to protect your > wife in chandi kavacham "bharayaa rakhshatu > bhairavi". Instead of > rakhshatu he said bhakshatu according to the story > and got whatever he > said according to the mantra. > > > > Regards > Jay > > Jose Rosa [master4114] > Friday, May 21, 2004 1:34 AM > > RE: Recite a mantra > > I read this posting over and over... I am still > trying > to figure out the meaning of it. > > I guess the questions that come to my mind are: > > 1 what is your point? > 2 Are we not to recite our chosen mantras? > 3 Did you learn to correctly pronounce the mantra? > 4 which mantra are you refering to? > 5 Do you personally know someone that has had a > calamity because of wrong recitration? > > The below story seems to me to be irrelevant to the > advice given by Shree Maa. > > > > --- Jay Dayal <dayals wrote: > > > > How efficient are mantras, and is it a problem if > we > > recite them less > > than perfectly? > > > > > > Answer: > > A learned Brahmin, from Guntur who was a > > ghanaapaaThigal, went to the > > acharya of sringeri and poured out his woes. he > said > > that he married 3 > > times till then, but some how all his three wifes > > dies soon after > > marriage, and he being a grihastha into yagnas and > > yagas, could not be > > without a wife , as a wife had certain important > > functions in a yajna. > > He told the acharyal, that he recited the > > sapthashathi daily, in > > addition to his japas and pooja. The acharyal, an > > unparallel > > Srividyopasaka, went about and divined the > problem. > > He asked the > > ghanaapaaThigal to repeat the kavacha of > > sapthashathi. The > > ghanaapaaThigal, told the same and acharyal, > pointed > > out the reason for > > his wives death. GhanaapaaThi sundara shastri > > avadhanigal, was telling > > "baaryaam bhakshathu bhairavii"... instead of > > "rakshathu bhairavii", > > which lead to the wives death. I hope this > > illustration gives us a > > picture of mantra shastra and its importance. > > likewise when saptashatii is learnt from a sat > guru > > and if recited > > properly it is equally capable of bestowing bhogaa > > and moksha. > > > > > > > > JAI AMBE > > > > > > REGARDS > > Jay dayal, Fiji > > > > Jose Rosa [master4114] > > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:30 AM > > > > Re: Recite a mantra > > > > Parvatu, > > > > Thanks, this re-affirms what I do with my mantra > > practice. Its good to know that Shree Maa as said > > this > > herself. > > > > > > --- parv108 <parv108 wrote: > > > Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do > you > > do > > > when duality > > > enters your mind like negative thoughts, > > judgemental > > > thoughts? > > > Answer: Recite a mantra. As soon as you notice a > > > negative thought > > > creeping in recite any mantra and do continouus > > > japa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price. > > http://promo./sbc/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > <http://rd./SIG=1294tklhs/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=gr > > > oups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1084915960/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/c > > ompanion.> click here > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=group > > s/S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=965465086> > > > > _____ > > > > Links > > * > > / > > > > * To from this group, send an > > email to: > > > > > <?subject=Un> > > > > > > * Your use of is subject to > > the Terms of > > Service <> . > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions./offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Namaste Jose and Jay, Jose - you are quite correct, I dont find any relevance to the story with Maa's teachings. But to Jay's point, it is was just an interesting story that he found and wanted to share with us all. As Satish had said in his post, unless we are chanting with some selfish gain in mind, we DO NOT need to worry about the pronunciation . Swamiji has repeatedly said , and I urge you to refer to the introduction to the Chandi , not to worry about anything. All we should care is that we develop a spirit of surrender to the Goddess . And She will take care. If you want to thresh out this subject/post further, I request you to take it offline. Thank you Jai Maa Latha , Jose Rosa <master4114> wrote: > > Based on Shree Maa's advice: > > 1 did you find it relevant to share a storry that does > not have anything in common with Shree Maa's advice? > > 2 Are you assuming that some in this group are not > pronouning the mantra correctly? > > 3 Why post a story that you do not know personally and > cannot testify for yourself? > > > > > > --- Jay Dayal <dayals@c...> wrote: > > Jose, > > > > 1. IT'S A STORY THAT I GOT ON THE NET REGARDING > > THE IMPORTANCE OF > > saying MANTRAS CORRECTLY and thought to send to you > > all for your good- > > THAT IS THE POINT.... > > 2. No you recite whatever you feel is best and > > what gets you closer > > to God and fulfills your desires. > > 3. Yes, I know pronunciation of most of the > > mantras. Before reciting > > any mantra I make sure I know how to pronounce it > > properly. > > 4. The mantra referred is from Chandi kavacham. > > Which I believe is > > very powerful. > > 5. I personally do not know anyone who had any > > such calamity however > > the story I posted earlier was read by me in many > > places. Bhaaryam means > > wife. And rakshatu mean to protect. Bhakshatu means > > something like kill > > or kill and eat. Bhairavi is the goddess who is > > asked to protect your > > wife in chandi kavacham "bharayaa rakhshatu > > bhairavi". Instead of > > rakhshatu he said bhakshatu according to the story > > and got whatever he > > said according to the mantra. > > > > > > > > Regards > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose Rosa [master4114] > > Friday, May 21, 2004 1:34 AM > > > > RE: Recite a mantra > > > > I read this posting over and over... I am still > > trying > > to figure out the meaning of it. > > > > I guess the questions that come to my mind are: > > > > 1 what is your point? > > 2 Are we not to recite our chosen mantras? > > 3 Did you learn to correctly pronounce the mantra? > > 4 which mantra are you refering to? > > 5 Do you personally know someone that has had a > > calamity because of wrong recitration? > > > > The below story seems to me to be irrelevant to the > > advice given by Shree Maa. > > > > > > > > --- Jay Dayal <dayals@c...> wrote: > > > > > > How efficient are mantras, and is it a problem if > > we > > > recite them less > > > than perfectly? > > > > > > > > > Answer: > > > A learned Brahmin, from Guntur who was a > > > ghanaapaaThigal, went to the > > > acharya of sringeri and poured out his woes. he > > said > > > that he married 3 > > > times till then, but some how all his three wifes > > > dies soon after > > > marriage, and he being a grihastha into yagnas and > > > yagas, could not be > > > without a wife , as a wife had certain important > > > functions in a yajna. > > > He told the acharyal, that he recited the > > > sapthashathi daily, in > > > addition to his japas and pooja. The acharyal, an > > > unparallel > > > Srividyopasaka, went about and divined the > > problem. > > > He asked the > > > ghanaapaaThigal to repeat the kavacha of > > > sapthashathi. The > > > ghanaapaaThigal, told the same and acharyal, > > pointed > > > out the reason for > > > his wives death. GhanaapaaThi sundara shastri > > > avadhanigal, was telling > > > "baaryaam bhakshathu bhairavii"... instead of > > > "rakshathu bhairavii", > > > which lead to the wives death. I hope this > > > illustration gives us a > > > picture of mantra shastra and its importance. > > > likewise when saptashatii is learnt from a sat > > guru > > > and if recited > > > properly it is equally capable of bestowing bhogaa > > > and moksha. > > > > > > > > > > > > JAI AMBE > > > > > > > > > REGARDS > > > Jay dayal, Fiji > > > > > > Jose Rosa [master4114] > > > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:30 AM > > > > > > Re: Recite a mantra > > > > > > Parvatu, > > > > > > Thanks, this re-affirms what I do with my mantra > > > practice. Its good to know that Shree Maa as said > > > this > > > herself. > > > > > > > > > --- parv108 <parv108> wrote: > > > > Today Shree Maa asked each one of us: What do > > you > > > do > > > > when duality > > > > enters your mind like negative thoughts, > > > judgemental > > > > thoughts? > > > > Answer: Recite a mantra. As soon as you notice a > > > > negative thought > > > > creeping in recite any mantra and do continouus > > > > japa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SBC - Internet access at a great low price. > > > http://promo./sbc/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://rd./SIG=1294tklhs/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D =gr > > > > > > oups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1084915960/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http :/c > > > ompanion.> click here > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.adserver./l? 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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Jai Maa to that! If we do these practices with the feeling that we only want to serve and please Maa, do you think She will not grant our True Desire instead of holding us to a syllable? It all depends on the why and how of our approach. - nityashakti Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:18 AM RE: Recite a mantra Regarding the dilemma of the "learned Brahmin" who kept losing wives because of his faulty pronunciation:Perhaps he was practicing Tantrik mantra recitation in order to gain some kind of siddhis and doing this without the "protective instruction" of a Tantrik guru. Or perhaps his bad attitude towards his wives was the cause of his problem (thinking of them as only "necessary to fulfill certain important yagna functions") or perhaps he was creating the problem with his own fear. I have seen, again and again, the bad results of practicing anything as powerful as mantra repitition or homa with a grasping attitude or with an attitude of superstition and fear. The "bad results" that I have seen have not been as dramatic as death in the family but, rather, mental confusion, increased self-regard, selfishness, narcissism and a disregard for the feelings of others. All of these practices are very powerful..every single one of them...the one criteria that is critical is an attiude of LOVE not an attitude of fear and superstition. Otherwise, you remain trapped in the outer form of worship and never even begin to understand that it's about DEVOTION ot DESIRE.sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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