Chandi Chapter 4 - 14 syllables to a verse/microphones

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hey chris and anyone else who is interested. if y'all have little

microphones on your computers you can do a "talk" session on the

messenger. i never did it, but it seems like a way to hear the

chants of those who have the rythms down. i'm a-gonna get a little

headset with a mic over the break between quarters at school, week

after next.

 

steve

 

, "Chris Kirner"

<chriskirner1956> wrote:

> Hmmm...

>

> Thanks. That is helpful, though I wish I could hear it. I'm sure I

> mentioned once before that I'm rhythmically challenged. The way I

> learned my eights was Maa's recording of the Durga

Dvaatrimshannaama

> Maalaa. BTW 8-6 usually works, but not always (it also seems some

of

> the verses only have 27, rather than 28 syllables, hmmm...) I'll

try

> to create a rhythm that goes all the way through fourteen syllables.

>

>

> Chris

>

>

>

> , "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

> wrote:

> > Hmm I have to pay more attention to when Swamiji does this

chapter.

> > But I chant the 14 syllables at one shot, so I do 14-14-14-14.

> > I find that it is simple when I have a rhythm for the 14

syllables.

> >

> > For example

> >

> > Durge Smrta Harasi Bhitima SeshaJantoh

> >

> > is chanted without a break . If we did break it up 8-6 then we

> would stop after 'bhi' of 'bhitima' and that would be like breaking

> up a word wouldnt it? If we did break 7-7 it would be more

meaningful

> because we'd stop after 'harasi' and atleast we were breaking it

> after a complete word.

> > However, what if there were a verse where the eighth syllable

> completed a word instead of starting a word (like in the example

> above), then 7-7 wouldnt work either.

> > So inorder to make things simpler, it is easiest to chant the 14

> syllables without a break, IMHO. This is how I have heard it

chanted

> by many others as well.

> >

> > I guess for the purposes of learning you could break it up in the

> > way you have described , but when you are chanting with pranayam

> you

> > would be trying to do the entire verse to one breath and so it

> > shouldnt matter where you feel your logical break to be.

> >

> >

> > Jai Maa

> >

> >

> > , "Chris Kirner"

> > <chriskirner1956> wrote:

> > > Latha,

> > >

> > > I've been doing 8-6, 8-6, etc., but I wonder if I shouldn't do

8-

> 8-

> > 8-

> > > 4, or split them in half and do sevens. How does Swamiji do it?

> > > (I missed the class time).

> > >

> > > Chris

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Latha Nanda"

> > <lathananda>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Chris,

> > > >

> > > > This chapter is not anustup chandah for most part . Anustup

> > chanda

> > > > is 32 syllables to the verse. This is another chanda (not

sure

> > of

> > > > the name) which is 14*4 =52 syllables to the verse.

> > > >

> > > > May I suggest that you read the English translation to get

the

> > bhav

> > > > of this one - it is very devotional. Also, Seema will be

> > teaching a

> > > > class on this tomorrow, so I invite you to join our online

> class

> > > and

> > > > ask any questions that you may have.

> > > >

> > > > Also, my knowledge of the mantras are limited - but what i do

> > try

> > > to

> > > > do , as I have shown below is to isolate some of the know

> > > > words, 'devi' , 'bhagavati', 'mukti' etc and then there are

> very

> > > few

> > > > words left that I do not know.

> > > >

> > > > Jai Maa

> > > > Latha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Chris Kirner"

> > > > <chriskirner1956> wrote:

> > > > > Latha,

> > > > >

> > > > > I had trouble with this one. I think the meter threw me

off.

> > > That,

> > > > > and there were some "strange" new words. I'm going to have

to

> > > keep

> > > > > practicing it until I feel comfortable with it. I should

> > really

> > > > > listen to Swamiji's chanting (it's on the website, isn't

> it?).

> > > > >

> > > > > In the beginning I was chanting everything in sequence, up

to

> > the

> > > > > current week's assignment, but I have given that up. I

found

> > (I

> > > > think

> > > > > around the atha shree devyatharvashirsham) that my mind was

> so

> > > > > befuddled by then that I wasn't learning the new chapter,

so

> I

> > > > gave

> > > > > it up. Now I continue with a chapter, along with the

current

> > > > week's,

> > > > > until I feel confortable with it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish I were as familiar with the meaning of the mantras

as

> > you

> > > > are

> > > > > Latha, but I know that will come in time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chris

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Latha Nanda"

> > > > <lathananda>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Namaste All especially those that opted to learn one

> chapter

> > of

> > > > > > Chandi a week.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was wondering how you were finding your studies. Can

> > anybody

> > > > > share

> > > > > > any insights ? Are you chanting the chapter once a day ?

> How

> > do

> > > > you

> > > > > > learn each chapter . I would be very interested to know.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This week we have been learning chapter 4, this is a

stuti

> > or

> > > > > > praise to the Goddess. When we talk about praise to the

> > > Goddess,

> > > > > all

> > > > > > the verses usually take on such a beautiful, devotional ,

> > lovey-

> > > > > > dovey view. But here is a verse that touched me deeply .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is Verse 9

> > > > > > "Ya mukti heturavi cintya mahaavrataa tvam

> > > > > > abhyasyase suniyatendriya tattva saaraihi |

> > > > > > mokshaarthibhir munibhirasta samasta doshair

> > > > > > vidyaasi saa bhagavatii paramaa hi devi || "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Swamiji translates this as

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Oh Goddess, for those who seek realization, the

inculcation

> > of

> > > > > > absolute freedom, INCONCEIVABLE are the great

austerities

> > to

> > > be

> > > > > > performed to be devoid of all defects, having the senses

> > > > subdued,

> > > > > > complying with the essence of the principles of Truth. Oh

> > > > Supreme

> > > > > > Empress, the wise who practice yearning for liberation,

> > that ,

> > > > > > Ultimate Knowledge of Realization is YOU "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And here is my feeble attempt at learning the sanskrit

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mukti - Realization

> > > > > > Mahaavrataa - Great Austerities

> > > > > > Tattva Saaraihi - Essence of the principles of truth

> > > > > > Moksha - Liberation

> > > > > > Vidya - Knowledge

> > > > > > Muni - Wise

> > > > > > Bhagavati - Supreme Empress

> > > > > > paramaa - Ultimate.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I welcome corrections and also if anyone can fill in the

> > other

> > > > > words

> > > > > > or phrases.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JAI MAA