Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Namaste Aravind, You brought an answer to a question that has been in my mind for sometime. There is a passage in the Chandi which goes like this Om aim atmatattvam sodhayami namah svaha Om hrim vidyatattvam sodhayami namah svaha Om klim sivatattvam sodhayami namah svaha Om aim hrim klim sarvatattvam sodhayami namah svaha I used to wonder the significance of those verses and I like your response below. I will also forward to Swamiji for his comments . THANK YOU JAI MAA Latha , aravind maharajan <aravindmaharaj> wrote: > Namaste Ji, > > During the process of taking holy dip in rivers, it is > done 3 times in line with the 3 thathvaas ( concepts). > > 1. Aathma Thatwa. > 2. Vidya Thatwa. > 3. Siva Thatwa. > > If u look at the 3 concepts above, we can corelate > with the state of mind or stages of advancements of a > person towards God. > > 1. In aathma thathwa, he makes his 1st attempt towards > God realisation. > > 2. In Vidya thatwa he makes attempts to learn , get > advice, dhiksha (intiation) from a Guru and practices > > 3. This is the ultimate objective, wherein, the man > gets the Godly characters with in him, > > > Apart from the regualar mantra one chants, one can > visulaise the 3 parts of Shiv Ling. The upper part, > the midle part and the lower part during the 3 dips. > Any typical Shiva Lingam has 3 parts - > 1. Bhrama - God of Creation - Srishti Thatwa > 2. Vishnu - God of Blessings n Boon - Rakshaga > thatwa > 3. Rudra - God of Destruction (of Maya & evils) - > Samhara thatwa > > So we can contemplate on all the 3 Gods in each and > every dip we take, and ask for appologies for the sins > done by ( Mind,Words,Deeds) and ask for blessings and > salvation. > > Generally it also depends on what our Guru tells us to > do. In teh Veda there are certain Mangala Snana > Mantras which are recited while taking bath. This is > recited while doing Abishek to Idols also. > > We can recite Gayathri or Om Nama Shivaya . Before > each dip , we should pray to God asking for applogies > for the sins done knowingly or unknowlingly. > > As u mentioned I listened to the melodious Devotional > Ganga Stotra recited by Shree Maa from the website. It > was really great. > > Common people like us can contemplate on our Guru, > then our Parents and then on God (Devi) while taking > the 3 holy dips. > > This is my humble answer to the elite group. > > Jai Maa, > > aravind. > 1.6.04 - 11.15pm.new delhi - India. > > --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002> > wrote: > Namste Arvind, > > > > Thank you for this lovely descritpive mail. During > > kumbha mela and other festive observance we see > > taking dip the holy river becames a practice . > > Often we see three times immersion by holding the > > nose is done . What is the proper methodlogy of > > taking dip in the holy river and what are the > > accompanying mantras. Is offering of argyham as > > Arvindji mentioned and reciting Ganga Stotram( Cant > > forget Shree Maa's lovely voice on this ) is done > > in this process as well? > > > > Anybody have an input on this otherwise I hope > > Lathaji could pass this to our beloved Swamji as > > well...... > > > > Jai Maa!! > > > > aravind maharajan <aravindmaharaj> wrote: > > Namaste All, > > > > Generally this is done thrice a day - > > 1. Dawn > > 2. Noon > > 3. Dusk. > > > > This process is called " submitting Argyam ". This > > is > > considered as worshiping Sun God ( Surya Bagahavan > > ),and generally Surya Gayathri Mantra is recited > > during this process. > > > > The belief is that Water is the most cherished food > > for the Sun. ( It sounds funny na ? But it is the > > fact). > > > > So this is more like offering oblation to Sun God. ( > > Scientifically also, he makes the water evoporate by > > his hot radinace and he gives us back the same water > > as rain.) the noble thing behind this is - water > > from > > a swamp, water from a pure water body, all are > > evoporated ( with out differentiation between good n > > bad water ). they get purified in the evoporation, > > condensation process - and we get pure potable water > > as rain. Like wise,We offer our Prayers and thoughts > > to the God. He cleanses our physical and menatal > > faculty, makes as a pure individuals. > > > > Also - as in the Bagavath Geetha , the inner meaning > > behind this process of Arhyam is " Every thing > > emenates from the infinite power . It comes from it > > and goes back into it." > > > > As Swami Vivekananda says " The concepts and > > philosophies in Hinduism are so deep & voluminous > > and > > it would take several hundred years for a person to > > understand, appreciate and assimilate them." > > > > That holds right. > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > aravind. > > > > > > --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002> > > wrote: > Namste Lathaji, > > > > > > Often I have seen the indian folks standing in > > Ganga > > > and offering water into the Ganga river from a > > > small pot . This pot would be slowly tilted as to > > > let the water flow in one small stream into the > > > river. Does any one know what are the > > > prayers/mantras recited and what is this process > > > called ? > > > > > > Jai Maa!!! > > > > > > Latha Nanda <lathananda> wrote: > > > On the night of 4th May 2004, I had been to > > > Gadmukteshvar – Ganga – > > > for my mantra japa in Sri Vidya, left Delhi at > > > 9.30pm, 6 priests of > > > Delhi & I, in an omni van, reached the place at > > mid > > > night 12.15am > > > > > > Im remembered of Abirami Bhatar of Thirukkadaiyur > > - > > > Tamilnadu. He > > > says a new moon day as full moon day, and the king > > > says he will > > > execute him. He sings a hymn in praise of the > > > Logamatha. She, the > > > divine mother, took her ear ring and hurled on the > > > sky, which was so > > > lustrous, that it shined like a moon – a poorna > > > chandran in the sky. > > > Why im writing is – it was a full moon day. Due to > > > eclipse, it got > > > totally hidden; then again it came out from its > > red, > > > and become a > > > beautiful full moon. It was a splendid sight. > > > > > > The sastras confirm that one gets into the path of > > > Srividya Upasana > > > when very few births are left and such a person > > who > > > has done a > > > Srividya sadhana in his earlier births starts > > > spiritually again from > > > the point where he left in his earlier birth and > > > he/she alone gets > > > initiated in the lore of Srividya. So DEVI > > nurtures > > > such a person > > > from the childhood both materially and spiritually > > > -- because before > > > he/she has chosen this path, SHE HAS CHOSEN to be > > > HER devotee. > > > > > > TRANSFORMATION TAKES TIME -- the secret of worship > > > is to learn to > > > wait on the deity in adoration. He who knows how > > to > > > wait becomes the > > > MASTER OF TIME. > > > > > > Lots of Sadhus, Saints, and Like minded religious > > > people had come > > > there for the holy dip. During the election heat, > > > the most common > > > axiom used was "INDIA SHINING". > > > > > > I was able to see India shining – in the Ganges – > > > after doing the > > > Pooja and Japa in the chill waters, people sang > > > mangala arathi songs > > > and lit lamps and let it float on the holy waters. > > > It was such a > > > spectacular sight to see the bank of the holy > > river > > > – with lots of > > > starlets floating thru' towards east. > > > > > > We all knelt down in the waters between 12.20 am > > to > > > 3.50 am, and > > > chanted the following mantras – > > > > > > Om Gam Ganapathayae namaha – 1008 times, > > > Om Namo Narayanaya - 1008 times > > > Om Nama Shivayae - 1008 times. > > > Surya Gayathri - 108 times. > > > Navakshari - 108 times. > > > > > > Water was flowing around our neck swiftly, (due to > > > heavy rains the > > > previous day), and we got energized by the holy > > > river. Many people > > > were praying, by facing the moon, standing at a > > > stretch for the > > > whole 3hours. > > > > > > It was a great refreshment for the body and the > > > soul, we didn't feel > > > tiredness the next day – though we were awake for > > > the whole night . > > > > > > I cherished with Prayers on that auspicious > > Grahana > > > punya kaalam on > > > 4.5.05, in great thankful memories and homage to > > my > > > Dad. > > > > > > Bakthi is still in the minds of the Indians. This > > > was evident during > > > my trip to the Ganges. > > > > > > Eagerly awaiting the next lunar eclipse to see > > > Mother Ganga. > > > > > > With best wishes n prayers, > > > Aravind.M > > > > > > 7pm, 30.5.05, New Delhi > > > > > > PS :- Picture of Eclipse stored in photos section > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > ___________________ ___ > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Excellent co-relation Lathaji !!! Thank you . Aravindji did mention guru's instruction is prefered in this matter as well .I love to here Swamiji's input on how to take holy dip as well Jai Maa!! Latha Nanda <lathananda > wrote: Namaste Aravind,You brought an answer to a question that has been in my mind for sometime. There is a passage in the Chandi which goes like thisOm aim atmatattvam sodhayami namah svahaOm hrim vidyatattvam sodhayami namah svahaOm klim sivatattvam sodhayami namah svahaOm aim hrim klim sarvatattvam sodhayami namah svaha I used to wonder the significance of those verses and I like your response below.I will also forward to Swamiji for his comments .THANK YOUJAI MAALatha--- In , aravind maharajan <aravindmaharaj> wrote:> Namaste Ji,> > During the process of taking holy dip in rivers, it is> done 3 times in line with the 3 thathvaas ( concepts).> > 1. Aathma Thatwa.> 2. Vidya Thatwa.> 3. Siva Thatwa.> > If u look at the 3 concepts above, we can corelate> with the state of mind or stages of advancements of a> person towards God.> > 1. In aathma thathwa, he makes his 1st attempt towards> God realisation.> > 2. In Vidya thatwa he makes attempts to learn , get> advice, dhiksha (intiation) from a Guru and practices> > 3. This is the ultimate objective, wherein, the man> gets the Godly characters with in him,> > > Apart from the regualar mantra one chants, one can> visulaise the 3 parts of Shiv Ling. The upper part,> the midle part and the lower part during the 3 dips.> Any typical Shiva Lingam has 3 parts - > 1. Bhrama - God of Creation - Srishti Thatwa> 2. Vishnu - God of Blessings n Boon - Rakshaga> thatwa> 3. Rudra - God of Destruction (of Maya & evils) - > Samhara thatwa> > So we can contemplate on all the 3 Gods in each and> every dip we take, and ask for appologies for the sins> done by ( Mind,Words,Deeds) and ask for blessings and> salvation.> > Generally it also depends on what our Guru tells us to> do. In teh Veda there are certain Mangala Snana> Mantras which are recited while taking bath. This is> recited while doing Abishek to Idols also.> > We can recite Gayathri or Om Nama Shivaya . Before> each dip , we should pray to God asking for applogies> for the sins done knowingly or unknowlingly.> > As u mentioned I listened to the melodious Devotional> Ganga Stotra recited by Shree Maa from the website. It> was really great.> > Common people like us can contemplate on our Guru,> then our Parents and then on God (Devi) while taking> the 3 holy dips.> > This is my humble answer to the elite group.> > Jai Maa,> > aravind.> 1.6.04 - 11.15pm.new delhi - India.> > --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002>> wrote: > Namste Arvind,> > > > Thank you for this lovely descritpive mail. During> > kumbha mela and other festive observance we see> > taking dip the holy river becames a practice .> > Often we see three times immersion by holding the> > nose is done . What is the proper methodlogy of> > taking dip in the holy river and what are the> > accompanying mantras. Is offering of argyham as> > Arvindji mentioned and reciting Ganga Stotram( Cant> > forget Shree Maa's lovely voice on this ) is done> > in this process as well?> > > > Anybody have an input on this otherwise I hope> > Lathaji could pass this to our beloved Swamji as> > well......> > > > Jai Maa!!> > > > aravind maharajan <aravindmaharaj> wrote:> > Namaste All,> > > > Generally this is done thrice a day - > > 1. Dawn> > 2. Noon> > 3. Dusk.> > > > This process is called " submitting Argyam ". This> > is> > considered as worshiping Sun God ( Surya Bagahavan> > ),and generally Surya Gayathri Mantra is recited> > during this process.> > > > The belief is that Water is the most cherished food> > for the Sun. ( It sounds funny na ? But it is the> > fact).> > > > So this is more like offering oblation to Sun God. (> > Scientifically also, he makes the water evoporate by> > his hot radinace and he gives us back the same water> > as rain.) the noble thing behind this is - water> > from> > a swamp, water from a pure water body, all are> > evoporated ( with out differentiation between good n> > bad water ). they get purified in the evoporation,> > condensation process - and we get pure potable water> > as rain. Like wise,We offer our Prayers and thoughts> > to the God. He cleanses our physical and menatal> > faculty, makes as a pure individuals.> > > > Also - as in the Bagavath Geetha , the inner meaning> > behind this process of Arhyam is " Every thing> > emenates from the infinite power . It comes from it> > and goes back into it." > > > > As Swami Vivekananda says " The concepts and> > philosophies in Hinduism are so deep & voluminous> > and> > it would take several hundred years for a person to> > understand, appreciate and assimilate them."> > > > That holds right.> > > > Jai Maa,> > > > aravind. > > > > > > --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002>> > wrote: > Namste Lathaji,> > > > > > Often I have seen the indian folks standing in> > Ganga> > > and offering water into the Ganga river from a> > > small pot . This pot would be slowly tilted as to> > > let the water flow in one small stream into the> > > river. Does any one know what are the> > > prayers/mantras recited and what is this process> > > called ?> > > > > > Jai Maa!!!> > > > > > Latha Nanda <lathananda> wrote:> > > On the night of 4th May 2004, I had been to> > > Gadmukteshvar – Ganga – > > > for my mantra japa in Sri Vidya, left Delhi at> > > 9.30pm, 6 priests of > > > Delhi & I, in an omni van, reached the place at> > mid> > > night 12.15am> > > > > > Im remembered of Abirami Bhatar of Thirukkadaiyur> > -> > > Tamilnadu. He > > > says a new moon day as full moon day, and the king> > > says he will > > > execute him. He sings a hymn in praise of the> > > Logamatha. She, the > > > divine mother, took her ear ring and hurled on the> > > sky, which was so > > > lustrous, that it shined like a moon – a poorna> > > chandran in the sky.> > > Why im writing is – it was a full moon day. Due to> > > eclipse, it got > > > totally hidden; then again it came out from its> > red,> > > and become a > > > beautiful full moon. It was a splendid sight.> > > > > > The sastras confirm that one gets into the path of> > > Srividya Upasana > > > when very few births are left and such a person> > who> > > has done a > > > Srividya sadhana in his earlier births starts> > > spiritually again from > > > the point where he left in his earlier birth and> > > he/she alone gets > > > initiated in the lore of Srividya. So DEVI> > nurtures> > > such a person > > > from the childhood both materially and spiritually> > > -- because before > > > he/she has chosen this path, SHE HAS CHOSEN to be> > > HER devotee. > > > > > > TRANSFORMATION TAKES TIME -- the secret of worship> > > is to learn to > > > wait on the deity in adoration. He who knows how> > to> > > wait becomes the > > > MASTER OF TIME.> > > > > > Lots of Sadhus, Saints, and Like minded religious> > > people had come > > > there for the holy dip. During the election heat,> > > the most common > > > axiom used was "INDIA SHINING".> > > > > > I was able to see India shining – in the Ganges –> > > after doing the > > > Pooja and Japa in the chill waters, people sang> > > mangala arathi songs > > > and lit lamps and let it float on the holy waters.> > > It was such a > > > spectacular sight to see the bank of the holy> > river> > > – with lots of > > > starlets floating thru' towards east. > > > > > > We all knelt down in the waters between 12.20 am> > to> > > 3.50 am, and > > > chanted the following mantras – > > > > > > Om Gam Ganapathayae namaha – 1008 times,> > > Om Namo Narayanaya - 1008 times> > > Om Nama Shivayae - 1008 times.> > > Surya Gayathri - 108 times.> > > Navakshari - 108 times.> > > > > > Water was flowing around our neck swiftly, (due to> > > heavy rains the > > > previous day), and we got energized by the holy> > > river. Many people > > > were praying, by facing the moon, standing at a> > > stretch for the > > > whole 3hours.> > > > > > It was a great refreshment for the body and the> > > soul, we didn't feel > > > tiredness the next day – though we were awake for> > > the whole night . > > > > > > I cherished with Prayers on that auspicious> > Grahana> > > punya kaalam on > > > 4.5.05, in great thankful memories and homage to> > my> > > Dad. > > > > > > Bakthi is still in the minds of the Indians. This> > > was evident during > > > my trip to the Ganges. > > > > > > Eagerly awaiting the next lunar eclipse to see> > > Mother Ganga.> > > > > > With best wishes n prayers,> > > Aravind.M> > > > > > 7pm, 30.5.05, New Delhi> > > > > > PS :- Picture of Eclipse stored in photos section> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > ______________________> India Matrimony: Find your partner online. http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony/ Friends. Fun. 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