Q&A with Swamiji .....60...Other Sadhus: Another Question re: Suffering

[Guest guest]

Yes it is so rare, is it not, to find someone experienced in

centering not on the self or some sophisticated realization of it,

leading to further distinctions between beings, but instead, on the

uncomplicated but miraculous unity that is expressed in the Divine

Mother's love.

 

That man or woman who is living That, and can teach that orientation

to life is rare, yes indeed -- very rare. My suspicion they are most

often quiet people who have no proclamation whatsoever and go by

largely unnoticed.

 

Pranams Swamiji ... one more question ... this is again, about

suffering.

 

When Thakur, or Ramana, Nisargadatta, or Jesus, or other evolved

person, suffered in the physical body ... what does this mean?

 

Perhaps I can phrase this to make more sense. That word "suffering"

when used in spiritual talk ... as in, "attachment alone is the

cause of suffering" [baba Hari Das] ... is this use of the

term "suffering" limited to emotional, attachment, and mental

issues? and does not include pain from neurological events,

calamities, etc?

 

The core of the question is, is any incarnated being ever completely

free of suffering? When we observe Maharshi and others in great pain

with cancer, etc.

 

Is their consciousness capable of resting in a center of peaceful

awareness EVEN WHEN the most terrible of physical pains is being

endured.

 

Shivapuri Baba, when asked a similar question "Do you suffer

illness, pain, etc?" replied "Yes ... but there is no

`hurt' in it."

 

Does that explain it from your understanding and experience? Or is

there a Yogic state that results from one's devotions so that in a

sense one is protected from pain. If so, is this state available to

be permanently entered into [permanently meaning, within the context

of the entity's existence.]

 

Thank you for considering this.

 

Pranams,

 

Steve C.