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This directly correlates with my previous post which I didn't describe very

well.

 

Each spark of consciousness has its own harmonics. This is mine.

 

Sadhana means spiritual practice. It is a clever word created by people of

efficiency (aka sadhus) to allow a person's mind to feel separate from his or

her own spiritual basis. That way the mind will not feel threatened by something

which it considers to be outside itself. In this manner it becomes a path by

which goddess can penetrate the mind and sley the dark thoughts, the self

destructive thoughts.

 

In reality sadhana is not something you do, but the way in which you do things.

At first we do sadhana as something separate from "reality." We consider it a

personal way to connect with god privately and we guard it as such. The guarding

is not actually to prevent others from getting in, but to prevent it from

getting out into our lives. Its a mental skism we create to protect our identity

from the one true reality.

 

However, those conscious individuals who create the sadhana guidlines for us to

perform -- Swami and Maa included -- did it in such a way as to create a trickle

of her energy into our minds. Not enough to creep us out too much, but just

enough to begin to expand our mental awareness. Not too much threat to our

belief of identity, but enough to insure that if we truly desire (beyond the

mind) to become conscious we surely will one day.

 

An avatar is one who knows he or she is God.

 

An ego is the mind's belief that it is separate from everything.

 

Enlightenment is the process by which that belief is tore down, split open, and

destroyed by consciousness. It creates an Avatar.

 

When we perform the Puja's, Meditations, Homas and other forms of worship taught

to us by religion we at first see those occurances as separate moments in time.

However after some time, the feelings and attitudes expressed in the practices

leaks into our daily lives. We find that as we are driving down the road, we

remember her in the vehicles around us. When we talk in meetings, on the phone,

even when we gossip, eat food, watch TV, hack on computers, etc etc etc, she is

there and we feel her. She doesn't influence, she doesn't interfere, she's just

watching and showing us her perspective of things if we want to see.

 

That's when we realize that all we do is sadhana for her. For her gain. For her

reasoning. For what ever she wants this universe to accomplish. That's when we

stop owning everything. That's when we become the embodiment of surrender.

That's when the duality unifies by letting go of itself.

 

Using Swamiji's analogy: that's when the container separating the consciousness

of individuality and the consciousness of infinite goodness breaks and there is

no longer separation.

 

Love,

 

Brian

 

 

 

 

"In the begining, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very

angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch

Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio Program.

 

--- On Fri 08/13, Latha Nanda < lathananda > wrote:

Latha Nanda [ lathananda]

Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:18:41 -0000

Intensity vs Time

 

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hmm ... good question ... it's like, "i can do this now, i see the

room is a mess, i always wanted to fix it up nicely, i have the

energy time space and will to do it."

 

like that.

 

it makes you breath easier.

 

it makes you happier.

 

it makes things go more smoothly.

 

it makes other people happier.

 

ok, now it is coming to me:

 

i felt, not all that long ago:

 

"this is it. you are getting older. when are you going to do this? it

is now o'clock. NOW is the time."

 

steve

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:

> >Commitment to practice comes only with the desire

> > for liberation. Without this desire, direct realization is

> >impossible, no matter how much you listen to a teacher or

> > contemplate a philosophical truth.

> >

>

> Dear Chris,

> Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.

>

> I onced asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will take me

to

> get enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to his watch

> and said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped. And I

> said "And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and Swamiji merely

> smiled.

>

> Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time based.

It

> does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or the

length

> of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and keeps us

in

> the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the desire.

>

> Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in practice.

>

> How does one increase the intensity of the desire to practice ? Can

> people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up their

> sadhana ? Any tips ?

>

> Love

> Latha

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OM NAMAH SHIVAYA

 

There is a saying:

 

"What you think, that you become"

 

So then love is not generated, where sufficient thought is not

bestowed. The more one thinks of a thing, the more one gets attached

to it even negative thoughts.

 

Mantra Japa is a sure way to develop and train oneself and increase

our intensity for the divine.

 

 

OM NAMAH SHIVAYA

 

 

, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote:

>

> This directly correlates with my previous post which I didn't

describe very well.

>

> Each spark of consciousness has its own harmonics. This is mine.

>

> Sadhana means spiritual practice. It is a clever word created by

people of efficiency (aka sadhus) to allow a person's mind to feel

separate from his or her own spiritual basis. That way the mind will

not feel threatened by something which it considers to be outside

itself. In this manner it becomes a path by which goddess can

penetrate the mind and sley the dark thoughts, the self destructive

thoughts.

>

> In reality sadhana is not something you do, but the way in which you

do things. At first we do sadhana as something separate from

"reality." We consider it a personal way to connect with god privately

and we guard it as such. The guarding is not actually to prevent

others from getting in, but to prevent it from getting out into our

lives. Its a mental skism we create to protect our identity from the

one true reality.

>

> However, those conscious individuals who create the sadhana

guidlines for us to perform -- Swami and Maa included -- did it in

such a way as to create a trickle of her energy into our minds. Not

enough to creep us out too much, but just enough to begin to expand

our mental awareness. Not too much threat to our belief of identity,

but enough to insure that if we truly desire (beyond the mind) to

become conscious we surely will one day.

>

> An avatar is one who knows he or she is God.

>

> An ego is the mind's belief that it is separate from everything.

>

> Enlightenment is the process by which that belief is tore down,

split open, and destroyed by consciousness. It creates an Avatar.

>

> When we perform the Puja's, Meditations, Homas and other forms of

worship taught to us by religion we at first see those occurances as

separate moments in time. However after some time, the feelings and

attitudes expressed in the practices leaks into our daily lives. We

find that as we are driving down the road, we remember her in the

vehicles around us. When we talk in meetings, on the phone, even when

we gossip, eat food, watch TV, hack on computers, etc etc etc, she is

there and we feel her. She doesn't influence, she doesn't interfere,

she's just watching and showing us her perspective of things if we

want to see.

>

> That's when we realize that all we do is sadhana for her. For her

gain. For her reasoning. For what ever she wants this universe to

accomplish. That's when we stop owning everything. That's when we

become the embodiment of surrender. That's when the duality unifies by

letting go of itself.

>

> Using Swamiji's analogy: that's when the container separating the

consciousness of individuality and the consciousness of infinite

goodness breaks and there is no longer separation.

>

> Love,

>

> Brian

>

>

>

>

> "In the begining, the universe was created. This has made a lot of

people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas

Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio Program.

>

> --- On Fri 08/13, Latha Nanda < lathananda > wrote:

> Latha Nanda [ lathananda]

>

> Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:18:41 -0000

> Intensity vs Time

>

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

perception and priorities

JAI MA

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:

> >Commitment to practice comes only with the desire

> > for liberation. Without this desire, direct realization is

> >impossible, no matter how much you listen to a teacher or

> > contemplate a philosophical truth.

> >

>

> Dear Chris,

> Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.

>

> I onced asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will take me

to

> get enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to his watch

> and said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped. And I

> said "And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and Swamiji

merely

> smiled.

>

> Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time based.

It

> does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or the

length

> of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and keeps us

in

> the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the desire.

>

> Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in practice.

>

> How does one increase the intensity of the desire to practice ?

Can

> people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up their

> sadhana ? Any tips ?

>

> Love

> Latha

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Narvarna mantra done with pranayama and asanna seems to bring a great

deal of intensity to sadic practices.

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:

> >Commitment to practice comes only with the desire

> > for liberation. Without this desire, direct realization is

> >impossible, no matter how much you listen to a teacher or

> > contemplate a philosophical truth.

> >

>

> Dear Chris,

> Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.

>

> I onced asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will take me

to

> get enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to his watch

> and said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped. And I

> said "And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and Swamiji merely

> smiled.

>

> Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time based.

It

> does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or the

length

> of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and keeps us

in

> the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the desire.

>

> Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in practice.

>

> How does one increase the intensity of the desire to practice ? Can

> people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up their

> sadhana ? Any tips ?

>

> Love

> Latha

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In a message dated 8/13/04 9:41:55 AM Mountain Daylight Time, lathananda writes:

How does one increase the intensity of the desire to practice? Can

people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up their

sadhana ? Any tips ?

Namaste,

It is the energy devoted to accomplish anything that increases

intensity. During a period when performing personal daily japa, my

goal was to find out what was going on between the words of the

mantra and then later between the syllables. The intensity increased

as the direct result of the concentration of awareness on the mantra.

The will increased to perform japa as the direct result of the goal.

My overthought as this was written was "Siva wants to know His

creation and His creation wants to know Siva".

Love to All,

Kanda

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Dear Latha,

There is the saying that enlightenment only takes as long as it

takes to throw your leg over the horse. The story goes that one of

the sages (could have been King Janaka .. probably someone in the

forum knows who) got enlightened as he mounted on his horse.

Jayadeva

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:

> >Commitment to practice comes only with the desire

> > for liberation. Without this desire, direct realization is

> >impossible, no matter how much you listen to a teacher or

> > contemplate a philosophical truth.

> >

>

> Dear Chris,

> Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.

>

> I onced asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will take me

to

> get enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to his watch

> and said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped. And I

> said "And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and Swamiji

merely

> smiled.

>

> Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time based.

It

> does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or the

length

> of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and keeps us

in

> the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the desire.

>

> Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in practice.

>

> How does one increase the intensity of the desire to practice ?

Can

> people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up their

> sadhana ? Any tips ?

>

> Love

> Latha

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I think my desire to pratice was increase with our satsanga( or what

our dear Steve use to say Cyber Sangha or CyberChurch) . All You

help me in my sadhana. So I offer my humble reverence to all you.

Jaya Maa!!!!Jaya Swmiji!!!! Satsangha+sankalpa= devotion+sadhana= +

satsangha+ sankalpa = devotion+.........

I Thank you very much

With love

KalachandraLatha Nanda <lathananda > wrote:

>Commitment to practice comes only with the desire> for liberation.

Without this desire, direct realization is >impossible, no matter how

much you listen to a teacher or > contemplate a philosophical truth.>

Dear Chris,Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.I onced

asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will take me to get

enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to his watch and

said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped. And I said

"And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and Swamiji merely

smiled.Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time

based. It does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or

the length of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and

keeps us in the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the

desire.Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in

practice.How does one increase the intensity of the desire to

practice ? Can people share how they felt the inner prompting to step

up their sadhana ? Any tips ? LoveLatha

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> I think my desire to pratice was increase with our satsanga( or

> what our dear Steve use to say Cyber Sangha or CyberChurch) .

 

Dear Kalachandra and everyone,

 

That struck a chord ! In my case it is a role model - when I see

someone giving off their very best consistently ...

 

when I see Maa refusing to get up until her work is done ...

when I see Swamiji doing 4 asans a day - one from midnight to early

morning (he sleeps abt 4 hrs a day) ...

when I see my beloved concentrating on the task at hand with

unwavering focus ...

when I see people doing things for others and pushing themselves

beyond their limits because they care ...

 

all that inspire me and I go back to my altar and say to myself "you

too can do it Latha... just keep at it ! And as the night turns to

dawn, it WILL happen. The intensity WILL come ! Just stick with it

and surround yourself with inspiration"

 

And atleast for a few moments I am giving off myself more

sincerely , more earnestly , more ... MORE STRONGLY !

 

For me , I can see clearly now ... Intensity follows Inspiration !

 

Thank you for the discussion and thank you querida for your point on

the satsangha.

 

Love

Latha

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Latha,

 

Here is what Dattatreya had to say (this continues the same paraphrase

translation of the Tripura Rahasya, by Rajmani Tigunait).

 

Dattatreya: Resolve with full confidence and determination: "No matter

what happens I will accomplish this. This ought to be achieved and I

am the one to achieve it." The aspirant endowed with such

single-minded resolution overcomes every obstacle. The more a person

is absorbed in the practice, the sooner he or she attains the result.

 

Parashurama: First you said that the company of the saints is the

major precipitating factor; then you brought up the idea of the grace

of god; and now you speak of dispassion, desire, and wholeheartedness

in spiritual practice. Which one is the primary method and how can I

develop it? Please be more specific.

 

Dattatreya: Let me explain the order: the company of the sages, God's

grace, dispassion, and absorption in practice.

 

It is human nature to constantly perform actions, the consequences of

which may be good or bad. Behind all action is the desire to attain

happiness. Whatever a person's concept of happiness is, he or she

makes an effort to attain that. Eventually he or she begins to fear

that self-effort may not be enough. At this point the aspirant turns

to God, who is said to be almighty and who can fulfill all desires.

The aspirant begins reading, questioning whether God exists, asking

how to pray, and wondering how much can be expected of God. To find

the answers, the aspirant seeks out the company of the wise.

 

A person may expect his or her good actions to help decrease life's

problems and conflicts. But sometimes, his or her charity,

austerities, scriptural study, and other good deeds do not seem to

bear commensurate fruit. The aspirant also notices that often those

who perform good karma suffer throughout life, while evil people are

happy. Why? Unable to answer this question, the aspirant turns for

advice to the learned.

 

Parashurama, when the aspirant listens to the wise extolling the

greatness of God and spiritual practice, grace begins to descend;

interest in the supra-mundane is quickened, and the seeker begins to

tread the path.

 

An individual must have some good karma from the past for this process

even to begin. Coming into the company of a wise person is the most

critical juncture in a soul's evolution; it is at this point that his

or her true purpose as a human being begins to be fulfilled. The

results of meritorious karma lead to satsanga (good company), and

listening to and associating with those further along the path. The

aspirant's interest is kindled and he or she begins to practice.

 

Through satsanga the aspirant develops faith and learns how to draw

the proper meaning from the scriptures. From revealed scripture he or

she learns about the absolute reality. If necessary, the aspirant may

be taught to conceptualize the absolute through symbols and images. By

worshiping the absolute through symbols, the aspirant attains the

grace that helps him or her to cultivate disinterest in sensory

objects and awakens ardent desire for enlightenment. Burning desire,

in turn, helps develop unflagging determination to attain the goal.

The aspirant begins listening to the confident inner voice that

asserts, "I am going to do it. The goal can be attained and I will

attain it."

 

This is the ground where master and disciple meet. The sadhaka

surrenders himself to the master with perfect faith.

 

Chris

 

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> wrote:

> > I think my desire to pratice was increase with our satsanga( or

> > what our dear Steve use to say Cyber Sangha or CyberChurch) .

>

> Dear Kalachandra and everyone,

>

> That struck a chord ! In my case it is a role model - when I see

> someone giving off their very best consistently ...

>

> when I see Maa refusing to get up until her work is done ...

> when I see Swamiji doing 4 asans a day - one from midnight to early

> morning (he sleeps abt 4 hrs a day) ...

> when I see my beloved concentrating on the task at hand with

> unwavering focus ...

> when I see people doing things for others and pushing themselves

> beyond their limits because they care ...

>

> all that inspire me and I go back to my altar and say to myself "you

> too can do it Latha... just keep at it ! And as the night turns to

> dawn, it WILL happen. The intensity WILL come ! Just stick with it

> and surround yourself with inspiration"

>

> And atleast for a few moments I am giving off myself more

> sincerely , more earnestly , more ... MORE STRONGLY !

>

> For me , I can see clearly now ... Intensity follows Inspiration !

>

> Thank you for the discussion and thank you querida for your point on

> the satsangha.

>

> Love

> Latha

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