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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

Dear Effie,

 

of course i would be happy to try to demystify your state.

the original question was, how does one intensify their desire for

sadhana? by having the perception that knowing GOD is top priority.

it's like your all alone, nobody home, and there's only GOD.

you know, SITARAM (i rarely miss much.)

 

when this perception is your reality your desire will become so

intense that you would do anything. even be willing to leave

behind the very teacher or guru who helped instill this desire in

you. which was easy for me because mine is a crazy, old nobody.

i guess we're a pair.

 

JAI MA

 

 

 

, "Frederica Evangeline Wilder"

<effie_wilder@e...> wrote:

> Dear List,

>

> This short posting leaves me in a state of mystification, wanting

> more details to satisfy. I wonder if clarification and

elaboration

> might be offered.

>

> Heartfelt thanks to all,

> Effie

>

>

> , "ecjensen_us"

<ecjensen_us>

> wrote:

> > OM NAMAH SIVAYA

> >

> > perception and priorities

> > JAI MA

> > , "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda>

> > wrote:

> > > >Commitment to practice comes only with the desire

> > > > for liberation. Without this desire, direct realization is

> > > >impossible, no matter how much you listen to a teacher or

> > > > contemplate a philosophical truth.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Dear Chris,

> > > Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.

> > >

> > > I onced asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will take

> me

> > to

> > > get enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to his

> watch

> > > and said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped. And

I

> > > said "And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and Swamiji

> > merely

> > > smiled.

> > >

> > > Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time

> based.

> > It

> > > does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or the

> > length

> > > of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and keeps

> us

> > in

> > > the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the desire.

> > >

> > > Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in practice.

> > >

> > > How does one increase the intensity of the desire to

practice ?

> > Can

> > > people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up

their

> > > sadhana ? Any tips ?

> > >

> > > Love

> > > Latha

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would love to hear more if u r so inclined, esp. about your guru.

whoever instilled this in u must be a very special nobody.

 

steve

 

, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

wrote:

> OM NAMAH SIVAYA

>

> Dear Effie,

>

> of course i would be happy to try to demystify your state.

> the original question was, how does one intensify their desire for

> sadhana? by having the perception that knowing GOD is top

priority.

> it's like your all alone, nobody home, and there's only GOD.

> you know, SITARAM (i rarely miss much.)

>

> when this perception is your reality your desire will become

so

> intense that you would do anything. even be willing to leave

> behind the very teacher or guru who helped instill this desire in

> you. which was easy for me because mine is a crazy, old nobody.

> i guess we're a pair.

>

> JAI MA

>

>

>

> , "Frederica Evangeline Wilder"

> <effie_wilder@e...> wrote:

> > Dear List,

> >

> > This short posting leaves me in a state of mystification,

wanting

> > more details to satisfy. I wonder if clarification and

> elaboration

> > might be offered.

> >

> > Heartfelt thanks to all,

> > Effie

> >

> >

> > , "ecjensen_us"

> <ecjensen_us>

> > wrote:

> > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA

> > >

> > > perception and priorities

> > > JAI MA

> > > , "Latha Nanda"

> > <lathananda>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >Commitment to practice comes only with the desire

> > > > > for liberation. Without this desire, direct realization is

> > > > >impossible, no matter how much you listen to a teacher or

> > > > > contemplate a philosophical truth.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chris,

> > > > Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.

> > > >

> > > > I onced asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will

take

> > me

> > > to

> > > > get enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to his

> > watch

> > > > and said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped.

And

> I

> > > > said "And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and Swamiji

> > > merely

> > > > smiled.

> > > >

> > > > Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time

> > based.

> > > It

> > > > does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or

the

> > > length

> > > > of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and

keeps

> > us

> > > in

> > > > the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the desire.

> > > >

> > > > Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in

practice.

> > > >

> > > > How does one increase the intensity of the desire to

> practice ?

> > > Can

> > > > people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up

> their

> > > > sadhana ? Any tips ?

> > > >

> > > > Love

> > > > Latha

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

Dear Effie,

 

i have an immense feeling of gratitude and love for your words,

recommendations, and wisdom. some of the things you spoke about in

your posts seem like they could be challenging lessons to really

learn. in the head easier than in the heart. but i have to imagine

it is totally worth it.

 

i will check out that book you recommended as i was meaning to get

another one someone told me about i think it was called The

Traditions of Shiva & Dionysus by Alain Danielou. maybe you have

heard of it. your right, left, not necessarily left behind. you

say in your post on Karma, the road is crooked. do two crooked

roads cross more than once? not in the same way i bet.

 

JAI MA

 

, "Frederica Evangeline Wilder"

<effie_wilder@e...> wrote:

> Dear List,

>

> Crazy, old nobodies? Where to find them? They abound but

> carefully. Turn rocks. Lift moss. Here is a book that helps the

> seeker when more words are required, Beyond Gurus by Nancy Cooke

de

> Herrera. As I recall in reading about Swamiji, he left teachers

as

> required to move to the Teacher.

>

> Heartfelt thanks to all, OM NAMAH SIVAYA!

> Effie

>

>

> , "ecjensen_us"

<ecjensen_us>

> wrote:

> > OM NAMAH SIVAYA

> >

> > Dear Effie,

> >

> > of course i would be happy to try to demystify your state.

> > the original question was, how does one intensify their desire

for

> > sadhana? by having the perception that knowing GOD is top

> priority.

> > it's like your all alone, nobody home, and there's only GOD.

> > you know, SITARAM (i rarely miss much.)

> >

> > when this perception is your reality your desire will become

> so

> > intense that you would do anything. even be willing to leave

> > behind the very teacher or guru who helped instill this desire

in

> > you. which was easy for me because mine is a crazy, old nobody.

> > i guess we're a pair.

> >

> > JAI MA

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Frederica Evangeline

Wilder"

> > <effie_wilder@e...> wrote:

> > > Dear List,

> > >

> > > This short posting leaves me in a state of mystification,

> wanting

> > > more details to satisfy. I wonder if clarification and

> > elaboration

> > > might be offered.

> > >

> > > Heartfelt thanks to all,

> > > Effie

> > >

> > >

> > > , "ecjensen_us"

> > <ecjensen_us>

> > > wrote:

> > > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA

> > > >

> > > > perception and priorities

> > > > JAI MA

> > > > , "Latha Nanda"

> > > <lathananda>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >Commitment to practice comes only with the desire

> > > > > > for liberation. Without this desire, direct realization

is

> > > > > >impossible, no matter how much you listen to a teacher or

> > > > > > contemplate a philosophical truth.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chris,

> > > > > Thank you for sharing from the Tripura Rahasya.

> > > > >

> > > > > I onced asked (half-jokingly) to Swamiji , "how long will

> take

> > > me

> > > > to

> > > > > get enlightened". And he equally playfully , referred to

his

> > > watch

> > > > > and said .."you will get enlightened at ...." and stopped.

> And

> > I

> > > > > said "And .... go on... " and waited expectantly and

Swamiji

> > > > merely

> > > > > smiled.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your post brought home to me why enlightenment is not time

> > > based.

> > > > It

> > > > > does not matter the number of times we repeat a mantra or

> the

> > > > length

> > > > > of sadhana .... though all these practices pushes us and

> keeps

> > > us

> > > > in

> > > > > the groove... what matters is the INTENSITY of the desire.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now that I know it intellectually , time to put it in

> practice.

> > > > >

> > > > > How does one increase the intensity of the desire to

> > practice ?

> > > > Can

> > > > > people share how they felt the inner prompting to step up

> > their

> > > > > sadhana ? Any tips ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Love

> > > > > Latha

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