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Dear Shiva,

 

I have read the postings for some time but have never posted. It

seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All commendable

goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from a

disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

 

"The establishment and identification of the relationship of God is

tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman Chalisa or

Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of this

for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans and

kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to worship

Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very difficult.

One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly recognized

that relationship has already attained God."

 

"I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought, at

least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So I

said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book, they

are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart has to

be set on God alone."

 

"In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and greed,

of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

 

"Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda mantra

which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed the

shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

 

"God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships and

the atmosphere. Never forget this."

 

"I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit and

chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name of

God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

 

"The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric is

just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

 

So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for God,

your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything else

will happen thru his grace.

 

Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It makes

for a great learning experience.

 

Ram

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Namaste ALL esp Ram,

 

Ram is probably not your name, and I do apologize if Western

ignorance wags its inconvenient head. I don't know where to start

in expressing how happy your post made me. (Please post more and

often.) Every single word sparkled across the screen, and I have

printed it to share with others in my life. Though all, and I do

mean all, of the post was wonderfully soothing, the part that made

me smile the most is this: The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu,

Christian or tantric is just childlike faith, the faith of a child.

I can't pretend I have that kind of faith, but I do feel that when I

sit in asan before Shiva or Laksmi or when I kneel before the cross,

when I sit in a cozy chair with a cup of cocoa and read

anybody's "good word", I know God is there, mixed up down throughout

in and out of it all. That feeling of God and me trying to figure

it all out and make it work is what takes me through the day. And I

thank you, thank you, thank you for your words and the words you

shared. Do it again, ok?

 

Namaste,

Karen

 

 

, "ramavihs11" <ramavihs11>

wrote:

> Dear Shiva,

>

> I have read the postings for some time but have never posted. It

> seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

> whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All

commendable

> goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from a

> disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

>

> "The establishment and identification of the relationship of God

is

> tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

> pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman Chalisa

or

> Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of

this

> for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans and

> kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to

worship

> Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very difficult.

> One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly recognized

> that relationship has already attained God."

>

> "I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought,

at

> least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

> working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So I

> said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book, they

> are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart has

to

> be set on God alone."

>

> "In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and greed,

> of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

>

> "Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

> reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda mantra

> which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed the

> shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

>

> "God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships

and

> the atmosphere. Never forget this."

>

> "I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

> worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit

and

> chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name of

> God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

>

> "The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric is

> just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

>

> So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

> there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for

God,

> your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything else

> will happen thru his grace.

>

> Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It

makes

> for a great learning experience.

>

> Ram

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Ram,

 

Yes.

 

In the end, it is all about relationship, about the presence of God in

the mind and the heart. May She bestow Her abundant grace on us all...

 

Chris

 

 

, "ramavihs11" <ramavihs11> wrote:

> Dear Shiva,

>

> I have read the postings for some time but have never posted. It

> seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

> whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All commendable

> goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from a

> disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

>

> "The establishment and identification of the relationship of God is

> tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

> pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman Chalisa or

> Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of this

> for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans and

> kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to worship

> Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very difficult.

> One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly recognized

> that relationship has already attained God."

>

> "I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought, at

> least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

> working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So I

> said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book, they

> are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart has to

> be set on God alone."

>

> "In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and greed,

> of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

>

> "Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

> reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda mantra

> which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed the

> shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

>

> "God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships and

> the atmosphere. Never forget this."

>

> "I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

> worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit and

> chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name of

> God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

>

> "The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric is

> just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

>

> So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

> there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for God,

> your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything else

> will happen thru his grace.

>

> Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It makes

> for a great learning experience.

>

> Ram

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

Dear Ram,

 

your name and your post remind me of a dear friend of mine. we

don't really talk much anymore and i miss him. but i guess, it is

what it is. he used to always say;

 

REMEMBER THE NAME, FORGET THE GAME

THE NAME OF RAMA TAKES AWAY THE DRAMA

 

great sayings huh! so simple. for the past couple of years i have

been putting his advise into practice and it really works. i just

say my mantra all the time. whenever i forget, i just start again.

the games have gone away and now the drama is a joke.

 

REMEMBERING IS THE KEY. THE NAME IS THE LOCK. THEN THE DOOR OPENS.

 

JAI MA

 

, "ramavihs11" <ramavihs11>

wrote:

> Dear Shiva,

>

> I have read the postings for some time but have never posted. It

> seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

> whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All

commendable

> goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from a

> disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

>

> "The establishment and identification of the relationship of God

is

> tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

> pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman Chalisa

or

> Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of

this

> for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans and

> kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to

worship

> Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very difficult.

> One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly recognized

> that relationship has already attained God."

>

> "I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought,

at

> least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

> working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So I

> said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book, they

> are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart has

to

> be set on God alone."

>

> "In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and greed,

> of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

>

> "Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

> reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda mantra

> which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed the

> shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

>

> "God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships

and

> the atmosphere. Never forget this."

>

> "I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

> worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit

and

> chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name of

> God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

>

> "The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric is

> just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

>

> So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

> there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for

God,

> your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything else

> will happen thru his grace.

>

> Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It

makes

> for a great learning experience.

>

> Ram

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Namaste Ram,

 

Your post on Nama japa brought to my mind this quote from Tukaram

 

Most important of all is the Privilege of being a Bhakta and to

exercise in life, nama japa. Even God does not know the value of his

name. Even God is not aware of the power of his name. How can he

be ? The lotus cannot smell its own fragrance, only the bee can. The

cow knows not the sweetness of its milk, only the calf can. The

oyster knows not the value of its pearl, only the jeweler can.

 

Jai Maa

Latha

 

 

 

 

, "ramavihs11" <ramavihs11>

wrote:

> Dear Shiva,

>

> I have read the postings for some time but have never posted. It

> seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

> whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All

commendable

> goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from a

> disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

>

> "The establishment and identification of the relationship of God

is

> tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

> pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman Chalisa

or

> Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of

this

> for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans and

> kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to

worship

> Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very difficult.

> One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly recognized

> that relationship has already attained God."

>

> "I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought,

at

> least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

> working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So I

> said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book, they

> are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart has

to

> be set on God alone."

>

> "In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and greed,

> of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

>

> "Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

> reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda mantra

> which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed the

> shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

>

> "God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships

and

> the atmosphere. Never forget this."

>

> "I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

> worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit

and

> chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name of

> God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

>

> "The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric is

> just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

>

> So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

> there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for

God,

> your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything else

> will happen thru his grace.

>

> Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It

makes

> for a great learning experience.

>

> Ram

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Dear Shiva,

 

Since we are talking catchy little sayings, how is this one from my

10yr. old nephew. We were talking about wishing we had done things

different in the past. And he said, "Don't regret, forget."

not bad for a kid. I guess the time we spend dwelling on mistakes

is time we aren't remembering God. It's all God. The good, the

bad, and the ugly. It's all God.

 

Ram

 

, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

wrote:

> OM NAMAH SIVAYA

>

> Dear Ram,

>

> your name and your post remind me of a dear friend of mine. we

> don't really talk much anymore and i miss him. but i guess, it is

> what it is. he used to always say;

>

> REMEMBER THE NAME, FORGET THE GAME

> THE NAME OF RAMA TAKES AWAY THE DRAMA

>

> great sayings huh! so simple. for the past couple of years i

have

> been putting his advise into practice and it really works. i just

> say my mantra all the time. whenever i forget, i just start

again.

> the games have gone away and now the drama is a joke.

>

> REMEMBERING IS THE KEY. THE NAME IS THE LOCK. THEN THE DOOR

OPENS.

>

> JAI MA

>

> , "ramavihs11" <ramavihs11>

> wrote:

> > Dear Shiva,

> >

> > I have read the postings for some time but have never posted.

It

> > seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

> > whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All

> commendable

> > goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from

a

> > disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

> >

> > "The establishment and identification of the relationship of God

> is

> > tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

> > pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman

Chalisa

> or

> > Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of

> this

> > for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans

and

> > kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to

> worship

> > Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very

difficult.

> > One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly

recognized

> > that relationship has already attained God."

> >

> > "I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought,

> at

> > least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

> > working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So

I

> > said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book,

they

> > are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart

has

> to

> > be set on God alone."

> >

> > "In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and

greed,

> > of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

> >

> > "Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

> > reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda

mantra

> > which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed

the

> > shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

> >

> > "God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships

> and

> > the atmosphere. Never forget this."

> >

> > "I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

> > worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit

> and

> > chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name

of

> > God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

> >

> > "The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric

is

> > just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

> >

> > So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

> > there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for

> God,

> > your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything

else

> > will happen thru his grace.

> >

> > Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It

> makes

> > for a great learning experience.

> >

> > Ram

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This thread reminded me of a conversation between Krista and I last week.

 

We realized that people who feel traumatized, haven't really been, because a

soul is unharmable, in reality a person is "dramatized" into feeling

traumatized.

 

hehe.

 

Brian

 

 

 

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Dear Shiva,

 

Karen I tried to email you off-line but it was send back.

I would humbly like to submit this, per your request(and yours too

Steve), in the spirit of cultivating wisdom. Because as Shree Maa

says, "learn from everyone, everywhere."

 

"Lord Shiva is not found only in temples. He does live in temples,

but his real presence can be discovered in anything and anybody."

 

"I am ready to see Shiva in any form and to see him I have used the

means of Rama's name. But in addition to Rama's name I have also

adopted one more means. Look for him from house to house. You

never know, he may be found in the guise of a poor man, a blind man,

a sick man, a miserable widow, a starving person, or a naked

destitute fellow. You cannot predict anything about him."

 

"Try to see God in suffering humanity. This is the duty of saints,

sages and holy men, as well as householders. There is so much pain

and misery everywhere because God is not seen where He actually is,

in suffering humanity."

 

"You will find peace of mind in the temples, but that is not the

ultimate in life. Peace of mind is very private and personal; it is

not the ultimate goal of human life. As long as the world, society,

the cities, towns and villages are not peaceful, the Earth will not

enjoy peace. That is why the ancient rishis, munis, seers and

thinkers have found shanti, peace, everywhere and not just in the

temples."

 

"If you want to resurrect the divinity within you, there is only one

way: name."

 

Everywhere is God's temple. Everything is in the name of God.

 

Ram

 

, "Karen" <karenborak@e...> wrote:

> Namaste ALL esp Ram,

>

> Ram is probably not your name, and I do apologize if Western

> ignorance wags its inconvenient head. I don't know where to start

> in expressing how happy your post made me. (Please post more and

> often.) Every single word sparkled across the screen, and I have

> printed it to share with others in my life. Though all, and I do

> mean all, of the post was wonderfully soothing, the part that made

> me smile the most is this: The secret of all rituals, whether

Hindu,

> Christian or tantric is just childlike faith, the faith of a

child.

> I can't pretend I have that kind of faith, but I do feel that when

I

> sit in asan before Shiva or Laksmi or when I kneel before the

cross,

> when I sit in a cozy chair with a cup of cocoa and read

> anybody's "good word", I know God is there, mixed up down

throughout

> in and out of it all. That feeling of God and me trying to figure

> it all out and make it work is what takes me through the day. And

I

> thank you, thank you, thank you for your words and the words you

> shared. Do it again, ok?

>

> Namaste,

> Karen

>

>

> , "ramavihs11" <ramavihs11>

> wrote:

> > Dear Shiva,

> >

> > I have read the postings for some time but have never posted.

It

> > seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

> > whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All

> commendable

> > goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from

a

> > disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

> >

> > "The establishment and identification of the relationship of God

> is

> > tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

> > pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman

Chalisa

> or

> > Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of

> this

> > for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans

and

> > kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to

> worship

> > Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very

difficult.

> > One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly

recognized

> > that relationship has already attained God."

> >

> > "I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought,

> at

> > least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

> > working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So

I

> > said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book,

they

> > are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart

has

> to

> > be set on God alone."

> >

> > "In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and

greed,

> > of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

> >

> > "Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

> > reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda

mantra

> > which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed

the

> > shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

> >

> > "God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships

> and

> > the atmosphere. Never forget this."

> >

> > "I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

> > worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit

> and

> > chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name

of

> > God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

> >

> > "The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric

is

> > just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

> >

> > So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

> > there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for

> God,

> > your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything

else

> > will happen thru his grace.

> >

> > Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It

> makes

> > for a great learning experience.

> >

> > Ram

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Dear Ram,

I love this post. You have learned a very deep lesson in seeing Shiva

in all and everything and everybody.

May the Lord shine in your heart,

Ardis

"ramavihs11" <ramavihs11 >

Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:30:40 -0000

Re: Worship of God

Dear Shiva,

Karen I tried to email you off-line but it was send back.

I would humbly like to submit this, per your request(and yours too

Steve), in the spirit of cultivating wisdom. Because as Shree Maa

says, "learn from everyone, everywhere."

"Lord Shiva is not found only in temples. He does live in temples,

but his real presence can be discovered in anything and anybody."

"I am ready to see Shiva in any form and to see him I have used the

means of Rama's name. But in addition to Rama's name I have also

adopted one more means. Look for him from house to house. You

never know, he may be found in the guise of a poor man, a blind man,

a sick man, a miserable widow, a starving person, or a naked

destitute fellow. You cannot predict anything about him."

"Try to see God in suffering humanity. This is the duty of saints,

sages and holy men, as well as householders. There is so much pain

and misery everywhere because God is not seen where He actually is,

in suffering humanity."

"You will find peace of mind in the temples, but that is not the

ultimate in life. Peace of mind is very private and personal; it is

not the ultimate goal of human life. As long as the world, society,

the cities, towns and villages are not peaceful, the Earth will not

enjoy peace. That is why the ancient rishis, munis, seers and

thinkers have found shanti, peace, everywhere and not just in the

temples."

"If you want to resurrect the divinity within you, there is only one

way: name."

Everywhere is God's temple. Everything is in the name of God.

Ram

, "Karen" <karenborak@e...> wrote:

> Namaste ALL esp Ram,

>

> Ram is probably not your name, and I do apologize if Western

> ignorance wags its inconvenient head. I don't know where to start

> in expressing how happy your post made me. (Please post more and

> often.) Every single word sparkled across the screen, and I have

> printed it to share with others in my life. Though all, and I do

> mean all, of the post was wonderfully soothing, the part that made

> me smile the most is this: The secret of all rituals, whether

Hindu,

> Christian or tantric is just childlike faith, the faith of a

child.

> I can't pretend I have that kind of faith, but I do feel that when

I

> sit in asan before Shiva or Laksmi or when I kneel before the

cross,

> when I sit in a cozy chair with a cup of cocoa and read

> anybody's "good word", I know God is there, mixed up down

throughout

> in and out of it all. That feeling of God and me trying to figure

> it all out and make it work is what takes me through the day. And

I

> thank you, thank you, thank you for your words and the words you

> shared. Do it again, ok?

>

> Namaste,

> Karen

>

>

> , "ramavihs11" <ramavihs11>

> wrote:

> > Dear Shiva,

> >

> > I have read the postings for some time but have never posted.

It

> > seems most of the postings deal with the "worship" of God, in

> > whatever form and changing yourself for the better. All

> commendable

> > goals. I would humbly like to offer some words I have read from

a

> > disciple of Swami Sivananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati;

> >

> > "The establishment and identification of the relationship of God

> is

> > tantamount to the attainment of God. You can easily perform His

> > pooja, sing his arati or say, "Namah Namh", chant Hanuman

Chalisa

> or

> > Rama Raksha Stotram and offer abhishek. A robot can do all of

> this

> > for you. You can even play a tape instead of singing bhajans

and

> > kirtan. It is good to talk about Him, to hear about Him, to

> worship

> > Him, but to establish a relationship with God is very

difficult.

> > One who has struck a relationship with God and clearly

recognized

> > that relationship has already attained God."

> >

> > "I read all the books, even the Bible and the Koran. I thought,

> at

> > least I'll get some idea about God. Then i thought, nothing is

> > working! I can talk a lot, but what is so great about talk? So

I

> > said to myself, "Stop all this at once. Throw away the book,

they

> > are of no use. If you really want to meet God then the heart

has

> to

> > be set on God alone."

> >

> > "In this age of adharma, of tension, confusion, passion and

greed,

> > of depression, there is no other way except God's name."

> >

> > "Ultimately, in the evening of my life I found the trick. I was

> > reading Ramacharitamanas and I read that Rama is the shabda

mantra

> > which Lord Shiva gives initiation into. Bhagavan Shiva formed

the

> > shabda mantra which is one word, Rama."

> >

> > "God's name improves the quality of the mind, the relationships

> and

> > the atmosphere. Never forget this."

> >

> > "I am not telling you to forsake the path of pooja, to stop all

> > worship, reading and reciting. But whenever you find time, sit

> and

> > chant the name of God. Whenever there is time, repeat the name

of

> > God. It is the only way you savages will become free."

> >

> > "The secret of all rituals, whether Hindu, Christian or tantric

is

> > just childlike faith, the faith of a child."

> >

> > So for those of you who find your intellect overwhelmed it seems

> > there is a simplier way. Think of the form you would choose for

> God,

> > your relationship with him, and repeat his name. Everything

else

> > will happen thru his grace.

> >

> > Thank you Maa and Swamiji for the openness of this forum. It

> makes

> > for a great learning experience.

> >

> > Ram

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