Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Dear Chris, You wrote, along with similar thoughts: Causing the ignorance of egotism to fall on these thoughts (too muchand too little) seems to me to be nonsensical. Can you site which page of the Chandi you find this on? Or quote the passage? Or was that a quote. I have now read the Chandi twice, and it seems clear that Too Much and Too Little are part of the army of negative thoughts of the Great Ego. Of course they are also metaphors. Am I not plagued by wanting what I don't or can't have (Too Little) like better health, more room so I can do my art, the abliity to work again. Though these do not seem exceptionally selfish thoughts, they constantly barrage me, and so I know they are the work of my ego. And then I think, oh I have so many beads, I will never get to use them all to make jewelry (Too Much?). Or I have so many songs, and now I can't sing anymore (Too Much and Too Little banding together to whallup me). In the end, it is we who suffer from these, but the hope I found in the Chandi, in several places, was that once these thoughts were slain, they were embraced by Durga. Do, as they say in Al Anon, "God Don't Make Trash." Anyway, I would be interested where in the Chandi you found this confusion. Blessings and Jai Maa ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Dear Berijoy, You wrote: as a real neophyte, i don't want to feel silly so i stay quiet most of the time. I hope you will decide to take the plunge at some point and ask whatever questions you may have, or add whatever thoughts you have. I too am a neophyte, though I have used the term "baby" sadhuk. Perhaps I am too bold sometimes, but I agree with you, the wealth of sharing in this group is amazing ... in fact it is an amazing grace. Shanti ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Dear Karen, You wrote: Blurt, bleat, bellow, Berijoy! I have read your posts with interest, though I have not responded before, but today you gave me a giggle, and I need all the giggles I can get. This morning I woke up in so much pain (Too Much), wondering how to relate to this illness as someone on a spiritual path. Steve gave me the blessing of considering my illness as tapas, which is a great idea, and I am aiming at that. But a good giggle now and then is like no other medicine I take. Blessings to you ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Vedic Ravi wrote in response to Steve's question: Hinduism and Death OVERVIEWReincarnation- the natural process of birth, death and rebirth -At death, Hindus drop off the physical body and continue evolving in the inner worlds in heir subtle bodies. Dear Steve, I also want to add that there is a long and great tradition in Western Mysticism that believes in reincarnation, other planes of being, etc. In this tradition, people go to the astral plane when they die. If their death is traumatic, they're given help. If they are ready, the passage is just that, a walking through another door. Either way, the person is greeted by relatives and friends, by angels and other astral helpers ... and then prepares for the next step in the journey. I used to be terrified of death. Then, many years ago, some months after my grandfather died, he came to visit me. Though he was in his Light Body (it really was like dancing particles of light), I knew it was him. He said nothing, but exuded comfort; then touched my finger with his finger, and a wave like an electrical shock passed through me, leaving me with a feeling a total surrender and peace. I never doubted that my grandfather's visit was to show me that death is not the end and to not be afraid. Later, my fear came back, gradually, but now it has gradually gone again as I have had continued visits, especially from my maternal grandmother, who seems to show up whenever my body is undergoing anything that it might interpret as traumatic (like a trip to the dentist). She just stands quietly, in front of me, off to the left, and smiles ... she lets me know "telepathically, of course" that she is here for me and to not be afraid. Now you will all think I am truly nuts, but these experiences have been very real, and I believe in them, and so, I am not afraid. Shanti ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Dear Berijoy, You wrote: oh, i remember! it was 'maynard' on the dobie gillis show. :-) Ah, your memory is very much better than mine. I am glad to have the reference I made provided back to me. Shanti ~ Linda P.S. And don't we sometimes feel this way about our sadhana ... Work? Work! : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Hi Linda, That particular passage was my own. However the passage I was referring to (and you also?) was in last week's group Chandi practice of the atha tantroktam raatri suuktam, verse 14, translated as: "Oh Divine Goddess, you and your heavenly and bounteous manifestations have been extolled. Cause the ignorance of egotism to fall upon those two thoughts so difficult to understand, Too Much and Too Little." Chris , nierika@a... wrote: > Dear Chris, > > You wrote, along with similar thoughts: > > Causing the ignorance of egotism to fall on these thoughts (too much > and too little) seems to me to be nonsensical. > Can you site which page of the Chandi you find this on? Or quote the > passage? Or was that a quote. I have now read the Chandi twice, and it seems clear > that Too Much and Too Little are part of the army of negative thoughts of the > Great Ego. Of course they are also metaphors. Am I not plagued by wanting > what I don't or can't have (Too Little) like better health, more room so I can > do my art, the abliity to work again. Though these do not seem exceptionally > selfish thoughts, they constantly barrage me, and so I know they are the work > of my ego. And then I think, oh I have so many beads, I will never get to use > them all to make jewelry (Too Much?). Or I have so many songs, and now I > can't sing anymore (Too Much and Too Little banding together to whallup me). > > In the end, it is we who suffer from these, but the hope I found in the > Chandi, in several places, was that once these thoughts were slain, they were > embraced by Durga. Do, as they say in Al Anon, "God Don't Make Trash." Anyway, I > would be interested where in the Chandi you found this confusion. Blessings > and Jai Maa ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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