Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 For me, pain teaches dis-attachment. When the pain is acute or chronic, the only way to "deal" is to let go of it. If you grab on to the pain it intensifies. So we learn to the extent possible for us to not attach to it. That is the lesson. Do not attach to your experiences. When we experience pleasure, the tendency is to want for it to continue. So we attach to it or to the dream of it in order to intensify it and make it continue. What happened to the lesson we learned from pain? Oops, we failed the examination. We are right back in the world of attachment. So what is the goal? We want to go beyond the experience of pain and pleasure to the Soul which always remains in the state of truth/consciousness/bliss. We have to give up atttachment. We need to surrender to Maa and ask Her to use those weapons of Hers and destroy Too Much and Too Little, The Great Ego and all his warriors and Self-Deprecation and Self-Conceit. We can't go through life wishing for more pleasure and less pain. That won't get us anywhere. As Shree Maa tells us "The Soul has neither pleasure or pain. Pleasure and pain are always in change but the Soul never undergoes any change. Always it remains in Sacchitananda." As with any goal, we have to look within and examine our priorities. So, do we want pleasure/pain or do we want peace. Sadhana is for those of us who have made the choice to lessen the dominance of the senses in our lives and go within to find the eternal. We are so blessed to have all the tools of our "trade". We have the inspiration and examples of our Gurus. We have pujas and homas and songs and dances. We have all the creativity of the Universe within us, ready to serve us in our worship. What Joy! What Peace is available to us! Jai Jai Jai to All the Divine! (and that means you) Ardis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 A personal note: Once I was with Shree Maa in the temple. Suddenly she turned to me and said "Ardis, on your path you will come to a crossroads. One fork will be the choice for Happiness, the other fork will be for the choice for Peace. Always choose Peace." I didn't understand the message at that time but more and more I am finding that my true desire is for Peace. -----Forwarded Message----- Ardis Jackson <anandamama Sep 19, 2004 4:54 PM On pain and pleasure For me, pain teaches dis-attachment. When the pain is acute or chronic, the only way to "deal" is to let go of it. If you grab on to the pain it intensifies. So we learn to the extent possible for us to not attach to it. That is the lesson. Do not attach to your experiences. When we experience pleasure, the tendency is to want for it to continue. So we attach to it or to the dream of it in order to intensify it and make it continue. What happened to the lesson we learned from pain? Oops, we failed the examination. We are right back in the world of attachment. So what is the goal? We want to go beyond the experience of pain and pleasure to the Soul which always remains in the state of truth/consciousness/bliss. We have to give up atttachment. We need to surrender to Maa and ask Her to use those weapons of Hers and destroy Too Much and Too Little, The Great Ego and all his warriors and Self-Deprecation and Self-Conceit. We can't go through life wishing for more pleasure and less pain. That won't get us anywhere. As Shree Maa tells us "The Soul has neither pleasure or pain. Pleasure and pain are always in change but the Soul never undergoes any change. Always it remains in Sacchitananda." As with any goal, we have to look within and examine our priorities. So, do we want pleasure/pain or do we want peace. Sadhana is for those of us who have made the choice to lessen the dominance of the senses in our lives and go within to find the eternal. We are so blessed to have all the tools of our "trade". We have the inspiration and examples of our Gurus. We have pujas and homas and songs and dances. We have all the creativity of the Universe within us, ready to serve us in our worship. What Joy! What Peace is available to us! Jai Jai Jai to All the Divine! (and that means you) Ardis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Ardis, your post touches me deeply, rings like a bell for a long time calling me in Thank you Gina Ardis Jackson [anandamama] Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:02 PM Fw: On pain and pleasure A personal note: Once I was with Shree Maa in the temple. Suddenly she turned to me and said "Ardis, on your path you will come to a crossroads. One fork will be the choice for Happiness, the other fork will be for the choice for Peace. Always choose Peace." I didn't understand the message at that time but more and more I am finding that my true desire is for Peace. -----Forwarded Message----- Ardis Jackson <anandamama Sep 19, 2004 4:54 PM On pain and pleasure For me, pain teaches dis-attachment. When the pain is acute or chronic, the only way to "deal" is to let go of it. If you grab on to the pain it intensifies. So we learn to the extent possible for us to not attach to it. That is the lesson. Do not attach to your experiences. When we experience pleasure, the tendency is to want for it to continue. So we attach to it or to the dream of it in order to intensify it and make it continue. What happened to the lesson we learned from pain? Oops, we failed the examination. We are right back in the world of attachment. So what is the goal? We want to go beyond the experience of pain and pleasure to the Soul which always remains in the state of truth/consciousness/bliss. We have to give up atttachment. We need to surrender to Maa and ask Her to use those weapons of Hers and destroy Too Much and Too Little, The Great Ego and all his warriors and Self-Deprecation and Self-Conceit. We can't go through life wishing for more pleasure and less pain. That won't get us anywhere. As Shree Maa tells us "The Soul has neither pleasure or pain. Pleasure and pain are always in change but the Soul never undergoes any change. Always it remains in Sacchitananda." As with any goal, we have to look within and examine our priorities. So, do we want pleasure/pain or do we want peace. Sadhana is for those of us who have made the choice to lessen the dominance of the senses in our lives and go within to find the eternal. We are so blessed to have all the tools of our "trade". We have the inspiration and examples of our Gurus. We have pujas and homas and songs and dances. We have all the creativity of the Universe within us, ready to serve us in our worship. What Joy! What Peace is available to us! Jai Jai Jai to All the Divine! (and that means you) Ardis Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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