Q&A with Swamiji .....195...Swastikasan and Siddhasan

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

 

I think Swamiji must've been distracted.

 

While the images on that link are misleading, the text is

descriptively accurate.

 

I have had this conversation with Swamiji before, and it seems that as

he was taught the names siddhasana and swastikasana were used

interchangeably.

 

The difficulty is that all the major yoga schools here in the States

(at least) accept the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as the primary source of

authority, and the two names belong to different asans in that tradition.

 

Whether called siddhasana (correct according to HYP) or swastikasana

(incorrect according to HYP), the asana Swamiji means is the one where

the heel is placed firmly against the perineum, and the other heel

above it.

 

Chris

 

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> wrote:

>

>

> Question from Latha:

> I thought Siddhasan and Swastikasan were one and the same, but

> per this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana they are different.

> Can you please let me know if it is Siddhasan or Swastikasan

> that you recommend as the preferred pose. Thank you for your time

>

> Swamiji's response :

> According to the tradition I studied under, some the asanas in this

> link have different names. According to this link the Svastik and

> Siddha asanas differ in which leg is placed on top. We never made

> such a distinction, but we always placed the right leg on top, so

> that would be the Siddhasana according to this.

>

> Also the poses depicted here for the Virasana and Vajrasana are

> different from what is described in the Devi Gita.

[Guest guest]

Is that right? When I've sat with Swamiji in person some years back,

what he said went more in line with what is traditionally known as

Swastikasana here for the most part.

-

Chris Kirner

Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:25 PM

Re: Q&A with Swamiji .....195...Swastikasan and Siddhasan

Hello All,I think Swamiji must've been distracted.While the images on

that link are misleading, the text isdescriptively accurate.I have

had this conversation with Swamiji before, and it seems that ashe was

taught the names siddhasana and swastikasana were

usedinterchangeably.The difficulty is that all the major yoga schools

here in the States(at least) accept the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as the

primary source ofauthority, and the two names belong to different

asans in that tradition.Whether called siddhasana (correct according

to HYP) or swastikasana(incorrect according to HYP), the asana

Swamiji means is the one wherethe heel is placed firmly against the

perineum, and the other heelabove it.Chris--- In

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> wrote:>

> > Question from Latha:> I thought Siddhasan and Swastikasan were

one and the same, but> per this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana they are different.> Can you

please let me know if it is Siddhasan or Swastikasan> that you

recommend as the preferred pose. Thank you for your time> > Swamiji's

response :> According to the tradition I studied under, some the

asanas in this > link have different names. According to this link

the Svastik and > Siddha asanas differ in which leg is placed on top.

We never made > such a distinction, but we always placed the right leg

on top, so > that would be the Siddhasana according to this.> > Also

the poses depicted here for the Virasana and Vajrasana are >

different from what is described in the Devi Gita.

[Guest guest]

Dear Chris,

I agree with you on the description of the postures in accordance

with the names as presented in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika, but when I

was around Swamiji, I saw him go into what was much closer to the

Swastikasana. One foot was placed mostly directed downward on one

thigh and he would pull the other foot up on the other thigh - with

out the heels centered as Siddhasana is usually described.

And though he suggested either Padmasana or Swastikasana, I expect

that he would be fine with traditional Siddhasana as well.

Jayadeva

 

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:

> Is that right? When I've sat with Swamiji in person some years

back, what he said went more in line with what is traditionally

known as Swastikasana here for the most part.

> -

> Chris Kirner

>

> Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:25 PM

> Re: Q&A with

Swamiji .....195...Swastikasan and Siddhasan

>

>

>

>

> Hello All,

>

> I think Swamiji must've been distracted.

>

> While the images on that link are misleading, the text is

> descriptively accurate.

>

> I have had this conversation with Swamiji before, and it seems

that as

> he was taught the names siddhasana and swastikasana were used

> interchangeably.

>

> The difficulty is that all the major yoga schools here in the

States

> (at least) accept the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as the primary source

of

> authority, and the two names belong to different asans in that

tradition.

>

> Whether called siddhasana (correct according to HYP) or

swastikasana

> (incorrect according to HYP), the asana Swamiji means is the one

where

> the heel is placed firmly against the perineum, and the other

heel

> above it.

>

> Chris

>

>

> , "Latha Nanda"

<lathananda> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Question from Latha:

> > I thought Siddhasan and Swastikasan were one and the same, but

> > per this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana they are

different.

> > Can you please let me know if it is Siddhasan or Swastikasan

> > that you recommend as the preferred pose. Thank you for your

time

> >

> > Swamiji's response :

> > According to the tradition I studied under, some the asanas in

this

> > link have different names. According to this link the Svastik

and

> > Siddha asanas differ in which leg is placed on top. We never

made

> > such a distinction, but we always placed the right leg on top,

so

> > that would be the Siddhasana according to this.

> >

> > Also the poses depicted here for the Virasana and Vajrasana

are

> > different from what is described in the Devi Gita.

>

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omjayadeva, what about the holding of the hands, did maa and swamiji

hold them in mudras during meditation.

 

s

 

, "Jayadeva" <omjayadeva>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Chris,

> I agree with you on the description of the postures in accordance

> with the names as presented in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika, but when

I

> was around Swamiji, I saw him go into what was much closer to the

> Swastikasana. One foot was placed mostly directed downward on one

> thigh and he would pull the other foot up on the other thigh -

with

> out the heels centered as Siddhasana is usually described.

> And though he suggested either Padmasana or Swastikasana, I expect

> that he would be fine with traditional Siddhasana as well.

> Jayadeva

>

> , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

wrote:

> > Is that right? When I've sat with Swamiji in person some years

> back, what he said went more in line with what is traditionally

> known as Swastikasana here for the most part.

> > -

> > Chris Kirner

> >

> > Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:25 PM

> > Re: Q&A with

> Swamiji .....195...Swastikasan and Siddhasan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > I think Swamiji must've been distracted.

> >

> > While the images on that link are misleading, the text is

> > descriptively accurate.

> >

> > I have had this conversation with Swamiji before, and it seems

> that as

> > he was taught the names siddhasana and swastikasana were used

> > interchangeably.

> >

> > The difficulty is that all the major yoga schools here in the

> States

> > (at least) accept the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as the primary

source

> of

> > authority, and the two names belong to different asans in that

> tradition.

> >

> > Whether called siddhasana (correct according to HYP) or

> swastikasana

> > (incorrect according to HYP), the asana Swamiji means is the

one

> where

> > the heel is placed firmly against the perineum, and the other

> heel

> > above it.

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> > , "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Question from Latha:

> > > I thought Siddhasan and Swastikasan were one and the same,

but

> > > per this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana they are

> different.

> > > Can you please let me know if it is Siddhasan or Swastikasan

> > > that you recommend as the preferred pose. Thank you for your

> time

> > >

> > > Swamiji's response :

> > > According to the tradition I studied under, some the asanas

in

> this

> > > link have different names. According to this link the

Svastik

> and

> > > Siddha asanas differ in which leg is placed on top. We never

> made

> > > such a distinction, but we always placed the right leg on

top,

> so

> > > that would be the Siddhasana according to this.

> > >

> > > Also the poses depicted here for the Virasana and Vajrasana

> are

> > > different from what is described in the Devi Gita.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I would echo this.

-

Steve Connor

Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:34 PM

Re: Q&A with Swamiji .....195...Swastikasan and Siddhasan

omjayadeva, what about the holding of the hands, did maa and swamiji

hold them in mudras during meditation.s--- In

, "Jayadeva" <omjayadeva> wrote:> > >

Dear Chris,> I agree with you on the description of the postures in

accordance > with the names as presented in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika,

but when I > was around Swamiji, I saw him go into what was much

closer to the > Swastikasana. One foot was placed mostly directed

downward on one > thigh and he would pull the other foot up on the

other thigh - with > out the heels centered as Siddhasana is usually

described.> And though he suggested either Padmasana or Swastikasana,

I expect > that he would be fine with traditional Siddhasana as well.>

Jayadeva> > , "Mahamuni"

<mahamuni@c...> wrote:> > Is that right? When I've sat with Swamiji

in person some years > back, what he said went more in line with what

is traditionally > known as Swastikasana here for the most part.> >

- > > Chris Kirner > > To:

> > Thursday, October 28, 2004

2:25 PM> > Re: Q&A with > Swamiji

......195...Swastikasan and Siddhasan> > > > > > > > > > Hello All,>

> > > I think Swamiji must've been distracted.> > > > While the

images on that link are misleading, the text is> > descriptively

accurate.> > > > I have had this conversation with Swamiji before,

and it seems > that as> > he was taught the names siddhasana and

swastikasana were used> > interchangeably.> > > > The difficulty

is that all the major yoga schools here in the > States> > (at

least) accept the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as the primary source > of> >

authority, and the two names belong to different asans in that >

tradition.> > > > Whether called siddhasana (correct according to

HYP) or > swastikasana> > (incorrect according to HYP), the asana

Swamiji means is the one > where> > the heel is placed firmly

against the perineum, and the other > heel> > above it.> > > >

Chris> > > > > > , "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Question from

Latha:> > > I thought Siddhasan and Swastikasan were one and the

same, but> > > per this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana

they are > different.> > > Can you please let me know if it is

Siddhasan or Swastikasan> > > that you recommend as the preferred

pose. Thank you for your > time> > > > > > Swamiji's response :>

> > According to the tradition I studied under, some the asanas in

> this > > > link have different names. According to this link the

Svastik > and > > > Siddha asanas differ in which leg is placed on

top. We never > made > > > such a distinction, but we always placed

the right leg on top, > so > > > that would be the Siddhasana

according to this.> > > > > > Also the poses depicted here for

the Virasana and Vajrasana > are > > > different from what is

described in the Devi Gita.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Jayadeva,

 

I've seen Swamiji sit in half-lotus frequently at the retreats I've

attended. He just seems to find it a comfortable asana. When he is

practicing, though, he says he prefers swastikasana (siddhasana). As

he said in his most recent post, he makes no distinction as to which

foot is placed above the other, but he has communicated to me (through

Devnatha) that the heel is placed against the perineum.

 

Chris

 

 

, "Jayadeva" <omjayadeva> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Chris,

> I agree with you on the description of the postures in accordance

> with the names as presented in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika, but when I

> was around Swamiji, I saw him go into what was much closer to the

> Swastikasana. One foot was placed mostly directed downward on one

> thigh and he would pull the other foot up on the other thigh - with

> out the heels centered as Siddhasana is usually described.

> And though he suggested either Padmasana or Swastikasana, I expect

> that he would be fine with traditional Siddhasana as well.

> Jayadeva

>

> , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:

> > Is that right? When I've sat with Swamiji in person some years

> back, what he said went more in line with what is traditionally

> known as Swastikasana here for the most part.

> > -

> > Chris Kirner

> >

> > Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:25 PM

> > Re: Q&A with

> Swamiji .....195...Swastikasan and Siddhasan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > I think Swamiji must've been distracted.

> >

> > While the images on that link are misleading, the text is

> > descriptively accurate.

> >

> > I have had this conversation with Swamiji before, and it seems

> that as

> > he was taught the names siddhasana and swastikasana were used

> > interchangeably.

> >

> > The difficulty is that all the major yoga schools here in the

> States

> > (at least) accept the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as the primary source

> of

> > authority, and the two names belong to different asans in that

> tradition.

> >

> > Whether called siddhasana (correct according to HYP) or

> swastikasana

> > (incorrect according to HYP), the asana Swamiji means is the one

> where

> > the heel is placed firmly against the perineum, and the other

> heel

> > above it.

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> > , "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Question from Latha:

> > > I thought Siddhasan and Swastikasan were one and the same, but

> > > per this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana they are

> different.

> > > Can you please let me know if it is Siddhasan or Swastikasan

> > > that you recommend as the preferred pose. Thank you for your

> time

> > >

> > > Swamiji's response :

> > > According to the tradition I studied under, some the asanas in

> this

> > > link have different names. According to this link the Svastik

> and

> > > Siddha asanas differ in which leg is placed on top. We never

> made

> > > such a distinction, but we always placed the right leg on top,

> so

> > > that would be the Siddhasana according to this.

> > >

> > > Also the poses depicted here for the Virasana and Vajrasana

> are

> > > different from what is described in the Devi Gita.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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