Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Pranams to Sree Maa and Swamiji. I have a question for Swamiji. Is it necessary to have a Sankalpa. I do not mean a resolution. That is good. What I mean is the name of the place, date etc and who I am and what I want. I recite Sri Sri Chandi and all other Stotras and Slokas without any Sankalpa except what ever is given in the text. Like Rishi, Chandas, and Devata and Nyasa where it is stated. Today I started reciting Kakaradhi Kali Sahasranama. I did it in the Kali temple. Now the Phala Shrudhi is very long. I remember that the Phala Shrudhi of Vishnu Sahasranama is also very long. Is it necessary to recite the Phala Shrudhi? I find the Phala Shrudhi distasteful when I do not want any of these Phala. I feel guilty when I ask MAA for anything. I have not done (consciously) so for a long time. But when this is stated in the Phala Shrudhi I feel guilty. Chandi Kavacha and all Phala Shrudhis make me feel guilty. The question is can I recite the Sahasranama without Phala Shrudhi? And also can I recite all the Slokas and Stotras without any Sankalpa. Do away with even Rishi, Chandhas, and Nyasa. My Poojas have always been Mental and not physical. I was told that I might not get the benefit the way I recite. But I want to praise MAA. She will give me whatever is required. Sorry for the long-winded message. I am not sure whether I am right in posting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dearest Sankar, Why feel guilty? What is wrong with desiring? Nandu gave me an article, I'm not even sure where it came from. It talks about the anchient mystics and their perspective of reality. They understood that it is desire which creates and maintains the universe. To attempt to limit desire was like trying to stop being. Guilt over desire is like sending one thought or idea to battle an asura. There is an asura we haven't discussed yet from the Chandi. I don't know his sanskrit name, but swamiji translates it as "Desire." I would add the adjective, "unconscious" to the front and say the asura's name is, "unconscious desire," because I don't see desire itself as a bad thing. Its just a part of who we are, who goddess is. So there is this giant battle waging between the gods and desire, with desire spilling his blood over the fullness of the three worlds, multiplying all the while. And the gods -- the holy and noble thoughts -- are approached by and mistake the demon guilt as an emissary and ask him to try and coerse desire into stopping his leacherous ways. That's like sending gasoline to put out a fire. KABOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In reality guilt and unconscious desire are twin brothers. One makes us feel bad about ourselves and the other makes us feel good about feeling bad. Neither are consciousness. The way to overcome desire is simply to alow it to change the object of the desire. Desire that goddess, consciousness. Once you see her on that hill side, you gather desire for her beauty, you wish to lick her salted feet, make love to her beautiful form, marry her and go on a REALLY long honeymoon. Desire is not bad, it is not good, it simply is. Accept it and allow yourself to feel it. Then offer it up to her as proof of your devotion to her. With every flower you offer in puja, offer a desire, and when she asks for a boon ask her to give you desire for her, to build your desire for her. Once your desire for her overwhelms all other desire there will be no desires to stand between you and your goal and you will attain her, marry her and live happily ever after. Fully present and deleriously thoughtless. It is not possible to do a puja incorrectly. It simply is not possible. As badly as we American's slaughter the sanscrit I know mother is listening and loving me for it. I can feel her in my heart and in my hands. She feels my love and my desire and she grants me what ever I ask for. The more I ask for the more she gives. And with each granting I become more thankful, more grateful, and more peaceful deep down inside. Just keep doing the pujas. It doesn't matter if you take a sankalpa. It doesn't matter if you feel guilty or angry, or upset or happy or blissful. It only matters that you do it for her and that she is present in your thoughts while you do it. It is her presence in your thoughts that allows her to battle against them. The process is automatic. It does not matter how you feel while you do the puja, in fact feeling guilty is PROOF that it is working! Feel the guilt and know it is the opposite of her and that she's showing it to you so you can say, "Take this away Maa! Take this away!" I suggest the next time she grants you a boon say, "goddess destroy these feelings that would have me stop my puja or alter it! Do it here and now! I want to desire you, please Maa grant me this boon that I may serve you better." It will happen. I promise. Love, Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Shankar, I hope I'm not butting in.... I understand your reluctance to ask Mother for anything, though I do not think there is anything necessarily wrong about doing so (especially those things that would make sadhana and service to others better). I do not completely understand the Shakti behind phala shrutis, but if they make you uncomfortable why can you not offer the fruits back to Her, or offer them to others? Chris , "Sankar Viswanathan" <sankarrukku@g...> wrote: > > > Pranams to Sree Maa and Swamiji. I have a question for Swamiji. > > Is it necessary to have a Sankalpa. I do not mean a resolution. That > is good. What I mean is the name of the place, date etc and who I am > and what I want. I recite Sri Sri Chandi and all other Stotras and > Slokas without any Sankalpa except what ever is given in the text. > Like Rishi, Chandas, and Devata and Nyasa where it is stated. > > Today I started reciting Kakaradhi Kali Sahasranama. I did it in the > Kali temple. Now the Phala Shrudhi is very long. I remember that the > Phala Shrudhi of Vishnu Sahasranama is also very long. Is it necessary > to recite the Phala Shrudhi? > > I find the Phala Shrudhi distasteful when I do not want any of these > Phala. I feel guilty when I ask MAA for anything. I have not done > (consciously) so for a long time. But when this is stated in the Phala > Shrudhi I feel guilty. Chandi Kavacha and all Phala Shrudhis make me > feel guilty. > > The question is can I recite the Sahasranama without Phala Shrudhi? > And also can I recite all the Slokas and Stotras without any Sankalpa. > Do away with even Rishi, Chandhas, and Nyasa. > > My Poojas have always been Mental and not physical. I was told that I > might not get the benefit the way I recite. But I want to praise MAA. > She will give me whatever is required. > > Sorry for the long-winded message. I am not sure whether I am right in > posting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Thank you Brian, Chris and Linda, for the kind messages. I agree with you. I am happy that I belong to a group of kindred souls. There is a poem in Tamil, which I keep on reciting. This is my constant prayer. It translates this way I surrender to you MAA Fear and cowardice have entered my heart. Kill them. I surrender to you MAA Instead of worrying about the results of my actions, please ensure that you take action to give me peace and fulfillment. I surrender to you MAA I do not know what is good or what is evil for me (and the world). Do what is good for me (and the world) and remove the evil forces. I surrender to you MAA One of my all times favourite song has been Jim Reeves singing Precious Lord, take my hand, Lead me on, let me stand, I am tired, I am weak, I am worn; Through the storm, through the night, Lead me on to the light: Tham Durgam durgamam Devim durachara vidhathinim Namami bavabeetho aham samsarnava tharinim -- Sankar Viswanathan On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:41:07 -0000, Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 wrote: > > > Shankar, > > I hope I'm not butting in.... > > I understand your reluctance to ask Mother for anything, though I do > not think there is anything necessarily wrong about doing so > (especially those things that would make sadhana and service to others > better). > > I do not completely understand the Shakti behind phala shrutis, but if > they make you uncomfortable why can you not offer the fruits back to > Her, or offer them to others? > > Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Shankar, What a beautiful way to stay at Mother's feet. Chris , Sankar Viswanathan <sankarrukku@g...> wrote: > > Thank you Brian, Chris and Linda, for the kind messages. I agree with > you. I am happy that I belong to a group of kindred souls. > > There is a poem in Tamil, which I keep on reciting. This is my > constant prayer. It translates this way > > I surrender to you MAA > Fear and cowardice have entered my heart. Kill them. > I surrender to you MAA > Instead of worrying about the results of my actions, please ensure > that you take action to give me peace and fulfillment. > I surrender to you MAA > I do not know what is good or what is evil for me (and the world). Do > what is good for me (and the world) and remove the evil forces. > I surrender to you MAA > > One of my all times favourite song has been Jim Reeves singing > > Precious Lord, take my hand, > Lead me on, let me stand, > I am tired, I am weak, I am worn; > Through the storm, through the night, > Lead me on to the light: > > Tham Durgam durgamam Devim durachara vidhathinim > Namami bavabeetho aham samsarnava tharinim > > -- > Sankar Viswanathan > > > On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:41:07 -0000, Chris Kirner > <chriskirner1956> wrote: > > > > > > Shankar, > > > > I hope I'm not butting in.... > > > > I understand your reluctance to ask Mother for anything, though I do > > not think there is anything necessarily wrong about doing so > > (especially those things that would make sadhana and service to others > > better). > > > > I do not completely understand the Shakti behind phala shrutis, but if > > they make you uncomfortable why can you not offer the fruits back to > > Her, or offer them to others? > > > > Chris > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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