Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Dear Brian, The asura you are referring to as 'desire' appears in chapter 8 of the Chandi and is called Raktabija.In Sanskrit, Rakta means red, blood, passion, or desire and bija means seed. Raktabija is the seed of desire. The Goddess Kali drinks up all of the seeds of desires. That is why she is sticking out her tongue. Raktabija won a boon that anytime one drop of blood, one seed of desire would touch the ground, a new seed of desire would be born with the same intensity and strength.Therefore, compassionate Kali drinks up the seeds before they touch the ground and manifest into new desires. One thing we can do to keep Raktabija from multiplying is to remember our goal and then discriminate as to which desires will take us closer to our goal and which ones will take us further away. Otherwise we will be wandering "to and fro" chasing after every desire. Jai Kali Maa! , "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote: > > Dearest Sankar, > > Why feel guilty? > > What is wrong with desiring? > > Nandu gave me an article, I'm not even sure where it came from. It talks about the anchient mystics and their perspective of reality. > > They understood that it is desire which creates and maintains the universe. To attempt to limit desire was like trying to stop being. > > Guilt over desire is like sending one thought or idea to battle an asura. There is an asura we haven't discussed yet from the Chandi. I don't know his sanskrit name, but swamiji translates it as "Desire." I would add the adjective, "unconscious" to the front and say the asura's name is, "unconscious desire," because I don't see desire itself as a bad thing. Its just a part of who we are, who goddess is. > > So there is this giant battle waging between the gods and desire, with desire spilling his blood over the fullness of the three worlds, multiplying all the while. And the gods -- the holy and noble thoughts -- are approached by and mistake the demon guilt as an emissary and ask him to try and coerse desire into stopping his leacherous ways. > > That's like sending gasoline to put out a fire. > > KABOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > In reality guilt and unconscious desire are twin brothers. One makes us feel bad about ourselves and the other makes us feel good about feeling bad. > > Neither are consciousness. > > The way to overcome desire is simply to alow it to change the object of the desire. Desire that goddess, consciousness. Once you see her on that hill side, you gather desire for her beauty, you wish to lick her salted feet, make love to her beautiful form, marry her and go on a REALLY long honeymoon. > > Desire is not bad, it is not good, it simply is. Accept it and allow yourself to feel it. Then offer it up to her as proof of your devotion to her. With every flower you offer in puja, offer a desire, and when she asks for a boon ask her to give you desire for her, to build your desire for her. Once your desire for her overwhelms all other desire there will be no desires to stand between you and your goal and you will attain her, marry her and live happily ever after. Fully present and deleriously thoughtless. > > It is not possible to do a puja incorrectly. It simply is not possible. As badly as we American's slaughter the sanscrit I know mother is listening and loving me for it. I can feel her in my heart and in my hands. She feels my love and my desire and she grants me what ever I ask for. The more I ask for the more she gives. And with each granting I become more thankful, more grateful, and more peaceful deep down inside. > > Just keep doing the pujas. It doesn't matter if you take a sankalpa. It doesn't matter if you feel guilty or angry, or upset or happy or blissful. It only matters that you do it for her and that she is present in your thoughts while you do it. It is her presence in your thoughts that allows her to battle against them. The process is automatic. > > It does not matter how you feel while you do the puja, in fact feeling guilty is PROOF that it is working! Feel the guilt and know it is the opposite of her and that she's showing it to you so you can say, "Take this away Maa! Take this away!" > > I suggest the next time she grants you a boon say, "goddess destroy these feelings that would have me stop my puja or alter it! Do it here and now! I want to desire you, please Maa grant me this boon that I may serve you better." > > It will happen. I promise. > > Love, > > Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Thanks Sis. This could be the Asura for next week. Brian At 09:57 PM 11/5/2004, you wrote: >Dear Brian, >The asura you are referring to as 'desire' appears in chapter 8 of >the Chandi and is called Raktabija.In Sanskrit, Rakta means red, >blood, passion, or desire and bija means seed. Raktabija is the seed >of desire. The Goddess Kali drinks up all of the seeds of desires. >That is why she is sticking out her tongue. > >Raktabija won a boon that anytime one drop of blood, one seed of >desire would touch the ground, a new seed of desire would be born >with the same intensity and strength.Therefore, compassionate Kali >drinks up the seeds before they touch the ground and manifest into >new desires. > >One thing we can do to keep Raktabija from multiplying is to >remember our goal and then discriminate as to which desires will >take us closer to our goal and which ones will take us further away. >Otherwise we will be wandering "to and fro" chasing after every >desire. > >Jai Kali Maa! > >, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote: > > > > Dearest Sankar, > > > > Why feel guilty? > > > > What is wrong with desiring? > > > > Nandu gave me an article, I'm not even sure where it came from. It >talks about the anchient mystics and their perspective of reality. > > > > They understood that it is desire which creates and maintains the >universe. To attempt to limit desire was like trying to stop being. > > > > Guilt over desire is like sending one thought or idea to battle an >asura. There is an asura we haven't discussed yet from the Chandi. I >don't know his sanskrit name, but swamiji translates it as "Desire." >I would add the adjective, "unconscious" to the front and say the >asura's name is, "unconscious desire," because I don't see desire >itself as a bad thing. Its just a part of who we are, who goddess is. > > > > So there is this giant battle waging between the gods and desire, >with desire spilling his blood over the fullness of the three >worlds, multiplying all the while. And the gods -- the holy and >noble thoughts -- are approached by and mistake the demon guilt as >an emissary and ask him to try and coerse desire into stopping his >leacherous ways. > > > > That's like sending gasoline to put out a fire. > > > > KABOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > In reality guilt and unconscious desire are twin brothers. One >makes us feel bad about ourselves and the other makes us feel good >about feeling bad. > > > > Neither are consciousness. > > > > The way to overcome desire is simply to alow it to change the >object of the desire. Desire that goddess, consciousness. Once you >see her on that hill side, you gather desire for her beauty, you >wish to lick her salted feet, make love to her beautiful form, marry >her and go on a REALLY long honeymoon. > > > > Desire is not bad, it is not good, it simply is. Accept it and >allow yourself to feel it. Then offer it up to her as proof of your >devotion to her. With every flower you offer in puja, offer a >desire, and when she asks for a boon ask her to give you desire for >her, to build your desire for her. Once your desire for her >overwhelms all other desire there will be no desires to stand >between you and your goal and you will attain her, marry her and >live happily ever after. Fully present and deleriously thoughtless. > > > > It is not possible to do a puja incorrectly. It simply is not >possible. As badly as we American's slaughter the sanscrit I know >mother is listening and loving me for it. I can feel her in my heart >and in my hands. She feels my love and my desire and she grants me >what ever I ask for. The more I ask for the more she gives. And with >each granting I become more thankful, more grateful, and more >peaceful deep down inside. > > > > Just keep doing the pujas. It doesn't matter if you take a >sankalpa. It doesn't matter if you feel guilty or angry, or upset or >happy or blissful. It only matters that you do it for her and that >she is present in your thoughts while you do it. It is her presence >in your thoughts that allows her to battle against them. The process >is automatic. > > > > It does not matter how you feel while you do the puja, in fact >feeling guilty is PROOF that it is working! Feel the guilt and know >it is the opposite of her and that she's showing it to you so you >can say, "Take this away Maa! Take this away!" > > > > I suggest the next time she grants you a boon say, "goddess >destroy these feelings that would have me stop my puja or alter it! >Do it here and now! I want to desire you, please Maa grant me this >boon that I may serve you better." > > > > It will happen. I promise. > > > > Love, > > > > Brian > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release 10/29/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release 10/29/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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