Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Question from Steve: >From your view, what is the single most significant challenge unique to Westerners desiring to follow the Eternal Way? Swamiji's response: The single most significant challenge unique to Westerners is the concept of surrender. In English, both language and customs, surrender is what we do after having exhausted all other possibilities. When we have no other alternatives, no other options, when our back is against the wall, we raise our hands into the air and say, "I surrender!" In Sanskrit we surrender when we have complete trust, when we have total love and respect, when we only want to become the reflection of the Grace of the Guru. This understanding presents a significant challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Swamiji, This is a most interesting answer. I myself have struggled with this word: "surrender." It almost seemed like, loss or defeat. Then what must be intended is, something not on the order of egoic failure, but exiting the realm of winning and losing and entering another place altogether. Trust. Yes. How rare this is in the West, where we are forever buying and selling, or attracting, or negotiating for our favor. At times it seems, trust is nowhere apparent, until we finally can settle down and look within ourselves. At times I thought perhaps the word "surrender" was not the correct translation, although it is so widely used, as the perjorative slant to it in our secular lives might make for some confusion. When TRUST is joined to SURRENDER, that reveals some other shades of meaning. The heart wants to say, "I love you, I can give in and trust you, I surrender." Steve , "chandimaakijai" <chandimaakijai> wrote: > > > Question from Steve: > From your view, what is the single most significant challenge unique > to Westerners desiring to follow the Eternal Way? > > Swamiji's response: > The single most significant challenge unique to Westerners is the > concept of surrender. In English, both language and customs, > surrender is what we do after having exhausted all other > possibilities. When we have no other alternatives, no other > options, when our back is against the wall, we raise our hands into > the air and say, "I surrender!" > > In Sanskrit we surrender when we have complete trust, when we have > total love and respect, when we only want to become the reflection > of the Grace of the Guru. This understanding presents a significant > challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Yes, I think it has a great deal to do with cultural expectations surrounding religious values and spirituality. In the East the idea of becoming divine is ingrained in the cultures of those influenced by primarily Buddhism and Hinduism, but others too. In the West, I think the idea of becoming divine has largely disappeared from the common culture of religion and spirituality, though it is found here and there. If one has a true belief in the reality of spiritual transformation leading to divinity, I think the idea of surrender, whether to God or Guru, follows naturally. There are those in the West, of course, who believe in divine transformation but believe they can transform themselves. To a large degree, I think these people suffer from a lack of pure examples. If you have never been exposed to the example of a living saint, or can discriminate between those spiritual writings written from a position of personal realization, and those written by dreamers and profit mongers, there is really no conception of the discipline and real purity required. Of course, even those of us who recognize the value of surrender sometimes find it difficult to follow such discipline and purity. It is hard to surrender if you do not feel yourself up to the task. Chris , "chandimaakijai" <chandimaakijai> wrote: > > > Question from Steve: > From your view, what is the single most significant challenge unique > to Westerners desiring to follow the Eternal Way? > > Swamiji's response: > The single most significant challenge unique to Westerners is the > concept of surrender. In English, both language and customs, > surrender is what we do after having exhausted all other > possibilities. When we have no other alternatives, no other > options, when our back is against the wall, we raise our hands into > the air and say, "I surrender!" > > In Sanskrit we surrender when we have complete trust, when we have > total love and respect, when we only want to become the reflection > of the Grace of the Guru. This understanding presents a significant > challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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