To ecjensen on seeing the Divine--in-All

[Guest guest]

ecjensen wrote:

i agree with you except for the last sentence. one of my favorite

yogic sayings is "as you think so you become." by changing the way

we look at things the things we look at change. start trying to see

things for what they all have in common(Divine Energy) and you will

eventually cease to see the differences. then you will "really know"

it and you will also experience it. because you are what you think.

Dear ecjensen ~ reading this was like nectar to my ears and a balm to

my heart. It also reinforces my sense of studying many religious

traditions that Truth is Truth, and when you pare away the window

dressing (which, I admit, is part of how we all get "there"), the

Truth is essentially the same. I have been having a lot of sad

feelings about my mother and stepfather for reasons I don't really

need to share. The important thing is that I know that if I could do

what you say, see them and the situation of my relationship with them

differently, not only would my perception of them and the situation

change, but, more importantly, my perception and feelings of myself

(as being unworthy, being the "black sheep," etc.) would change. And

yet, it is like it said in the Bible, like threading a camel through

the eye of a needle. I work at it, and for a bit it happens, and then

it switches back and the sad feelings return.

 

This use to happen to me quite easily ~ experiencing the

Divine-in-All. I would have an experience of the Oneness and

literally fall on my knees in tears and gratitude. Since I have

become so sick it has become harder and harder, and my

seeing/experiencing of this Divinity-in-All has diminished. I really

want it back ... more than anything. And I know that what this means

is doing the spiritual work that I often feel too sick to do.

 

If you or anyone else has any specific ideas or tools (other than the

obvious ones of meditation, japa, chanting, etc.) for, when one is

just going about one's everyday life, how to do this seeing of

everything as Divine, I would love to hear them. Jai Maa ~ Linda

[Guest guest]

This use to happen to me quite easily ~ experiencing the

Divine-in-All. I would have an experience of the Oneness and

literally fall on my knees in tears and gratitude. Since I have

become so sick it has become harder and harder, and my

seeing/experiencing of this Divinity-in-All has diminished. I really

want it back ... more than anything. And I know that what this means

is doing the spiritual work that I often feel too sick to do.

That is the catch Linda.

I too want it back, but it seems the more I am wanting it back, the more difficult it is getting.

One time I was thinking mother please come back, and she said how can

I you are not pure enough. Then I am thinking mother just a few years

ago it was all fine, in eight years this is what I have done to

myself. Earlier I could ocassionall hear her in my mind but now it

seems thats gone too.

So here is the need for steady practice and on the other hand life is

getting harder, mired with frustrations. You ride a few days on a

positive wave and then it returns with full force, the frustration,

irritation, exhaustion.

Today While driving to work all this was going on in my mind and then I read your post.

and I am wondering if there is a right way or a wrong way of doing

the practice. I have read elsewhere that we need to pace ourselves.

because I have seen with myself that for three or four days I will

have spiritual enthusiasm and then I am so

exhausted that the enthu goes and it becomes difficult to have the

same bhava and negativity creeps up. Maybe finding out

just the right amount of practice for everyday and not exceeding it

(without having any feelings of gulit) is the key.

I had another question too. If you do puja when you are not really

feeling upto it, you do not have the bhava and you sit there and all

kinds of negativities are popping in your head, is it worth to do it.

It makes me feel very guilty. I say mother I am sorry, I do not want

to think this way or that, but then another thought pops in my mind.

It becomes a struggle. Is their any merit in this kind of puja. and

then again is'nt using the merit word completely wrong. Let me know

your thoughts on this.

Love, Love ,Love

Ruchi

nierika (AT) aol (DOT) com

[nierika (AT) aol (DOT) com] Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AMTo:

Subject: Re: To ecjensen on

seeing the Divine--in-All

ecjensen wrote:

i agree with you except for the last sentence. one of my favorite

yogic sayings is "as you think so you become." by changing the way

we look at things the things we look at change. start trying to see

things for what they all have in common(Divine Energy) and you will

eventually cease to see the differences. then you will "really know"

it and you will also experience it. because you are what you think.

Dear ecjensen ~ reading this was like nectar to my ears and a balm to

my heart. It also reinforces my sense of studying many religious

traditions that Truth is Truth, and when you pare away the window

dressing (which, I admit, is part of how we all get "there"), the

Truth is essentially the same. I have been having a lot of sad

feelings about my mother and stepfather for reasons I don't really

need to share. The important thing is that I know that if I could do

what you say, see them and the situation of my relationship with them

differently, not only would my perception of them and the situation

change, but, more importantly, my perception and feelings of myself

(as being unworthy, being the "black sheep," etc.) would change. And

yet, it is like it said in the Bible, like threading a camel through

the eye of a needle. I work at it, and for a bit it happens, and then

it switches back and the sad feelings return.

This use to happen to me quite easily ~ experiencing the

Divine-in-All. I would have an experience of the Oneness and

literally fall on my knees in tears and gratitude. Since I have

become so sick it has become harder and harder, and my

seeing/experiencing of this Divinity-in-All has diminished. I really

want it back ... more than anything. And I know that what this means

is doing the spiritual work that I often feel too sick to do.

If you or anyone else has any specific ideas or tools (other than the

obvious ones of meditation, japa, chanting, etc.) for, when one is

just going about one's everyday life, how to do this seeing of

everything as Divine, I would love to hear them. Jai Maa ~ Linda