Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Shiva is Divine, Supreme Divinity. He is also the “ultimate meditator”. His eyes are partially open because He sees both within and without. He accepts the smallest gifts with love. He loves it when His devotees sing to Him and do puja to Him. He is mesmerized by the Divine Mother. He is the stage of consciousness upon which She dances. He is quite a dancer Himself (known as Nataraja). I have been having a love affair with Him for 12 years. He is my Ishta Deva. He is totally delightful. He never lets me down. Chant His 108 names or do His puja and He will let you in on His Secrets. Ardis on 2/9/05 4:36 PM, Karen Borak at karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net wrote: Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Sponsor document.write(' <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=1/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> '); <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=2/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Ardis, you given our new member lots to think about. Can you explain ishta deva, puja, and chanting the 108 names? Whew! That's a lot, isn't it? But new members value this kind of basic information. Thank you so very much! Ardis Jackson <ardis1 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote: Shiva is Divine, Supreme Divinity. He is also the “ultimate meditator”. His eyes are partially open because He sees both within and without. He accepts the smallest gifts with love. He loves it when His devotees sing to Him and do puja to Him. He is mesmerized by the Divine Mother. He is the stage of consciousness upon which She dances. He is quite a dancer Himself (known as Nataraja). I have been having a love affair with Him for 12 years. He is my Ishta Deva. He is totally delightful. He never lets me down.Chant His 108 names or do His puja and He will let you in on His Secrets.Ardison 2/9/05 4:36 PM, Karen Borak at karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net wrote: Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Sponsor document.write(' <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=1/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> '); <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=2/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Jai Maa! Jai Shiva! Jai Swamiji! ****************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 hi karen! i would tell them, do shiva puja for a while and look at the picture of shiva on the cover. they will get attracted to shiva and want to know him. they might find themself talking to him or calling out to him. they might still not be able to say who he is, but they are somehow closer to knowing him. om shiva. , "Karen Borak" <karenborak@e...> wrote: > Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 The word Ishta means “chosen” or “favorite”. Deva means “God”. So, one’s ishta deva is the form of the Divine that you are most drawn to. Shiva is my ishta because He has drawn me into the passionate worship of his form. Puja means worship. It comes from the sanskrit: punya means merit; jayate means to give birth to. Puja is the worship which gives birth to the highest merit, to be in the presence of God. I have mailed the 108 names of Lord Shiva under separate cover. They appear in the Devi Mandir’s Shiva Puja Beginner and the Shiva Puja and Advanced Yajna (Fire Ceremony). In the latter, there is also the 1000 Names of Lord Shiva. The names are in Sanskrit and English. I find them very inspiring to chant and to meditate upon. The name of my home temple is the Shiva*Shakti Mandir. When Shiva and the Divine Mother are in Divine Union, there is no longer any duality, there is only the One. We are all an expression of that Divinity. Jai Shiva Jai Maa Ardis on 2/9/05 7:30 PM, Karen Borak at karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net wrote: Ardis, you given our new member lots to think about. Can you explain ishta deva, puja, and chanting the 108 names? Whew! That's a lot, isn't it? But new members value this kind of basic information. Thank you so very much! Ardis Jackson <ardis1 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote: Shiva is Divine, Supreme Divinity. He is also the “ultimate meditator”. His eyes are partially open because He sees both within and without. He accepts the smallest gifts with love. He loves it when His devotees sing to Him and do puja to Him. He is mesmerized by the Divine Mother. He is the stage of consciousness upon which She dances. He is quite a dancer Himself (known as Nataraja). I have been having a love affair with Him for 12 years. He is my Ishta Deva. He is totally delightful. He never lets me down. Chant His 108 names or do His puja and He will let you in on His Secrets. Ardis on 2/9/05 4:36 PM, Karen Borak at karenborak (AT) earthlink (DOT) net wrote: Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Sponsor document.write(' <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=1/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=1/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> '); <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=2/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> <http://us.ard./SIG=129q4e45e/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108083576/A=2532114/R=2/SIG=12k9567k4/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1107997176243935> Links To visit your group on the web, go to: / To from this group, send an email to: <?subject=Un> Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service <> . Jai Maa! Jai Shiva! Jai Swamiji! ****************************************************** Sponsor document.write(' <http://us.ard./SIG=129dpad47/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108093766/A=2532114/R=1/SIG=12kh3retm/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1108007366139724> '); <http://us.ard./SIG=129dpad47/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108093766/A=2532114/R=2/SIG=12kh3retm/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1108007366139724> / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear Shiva, Shiva is worshipped both with and without form. Shiva is consciousness. The Great Yogi. He loves nature. Shiva is the God of the people. His ganas or band of devotees that travel with him, are those unwanted and/or despised by society. Shiva is not bound by societies judgment of morality. To receive His blessing all one needs is devotion. As one saint said, "I have never renounced any vice: it is they who have left me." To me, this summarizes the message of Shiva. Most commonly worshipped in the form of the lingam. He is the sensuous Yogi, yet maintains his yogic traits. Shiva is the ultimate renunciate, beyond attachment. To love his consort is all that keeps him in the world. If not for Parvati Shiva would be in infinite meditation. Shiva marrying Parvati is an analogy between a human wedding, which releases the highest ecstasies of the flesh, and the wedding of Kundalini with Shiva, which is a symbol of the highest bliss attainable by an individual soul. To me, the entrance of the power of Shakti into the higher mind is the ultimate goal. Muktananda's title says it best, "Nothing Exists that is not Siva." Ram PS. This is my view of Shiva, not sure if Swamiji would endorse this. , "Karen Borak" <karenborak@e...> wrote: > Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear beloved Karen, Lord Shiva is the'Consciousness of Infinite Goodness'. Anything that you can think of that is the most beautiful, good, infinite, pure, etc. expand on that! Shiva is pure Spiritual Awareness... Shiva is the witness to Natures Dance... Shiva is the canvas, Maa is the paint... But, ultimately, you cannot separate Them. They are 2 sides of the same coin. Shiva is the Fire, Maa[shakti]is the power to burn... Do Japa [chanting] of His main Mantra 'OM Namah Shivaya' while looking at a really nice painting of Him [with His eyes closed or almost closed]. Ask Him sincerely to reveal Himself, Karen, and He will...not necessarily with 'bells and whistles', but He will reveal Himself in someway. Maybe you will feel more Peaceful...etc. Don't ever give up! We are all behind you cheering you on! Om Namah Shivaya! Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva! muktimaa , "Karen Borak" <karenborak@e...> wrote: > Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Thank you all for the information on Shiva. I have really enjoyed reading all that you have written. I am new and trying to learn more. It is very helpful when people explain and go into more details for the newbies. Again Thank you! Angelina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Welcome, Angela. Please, ask all the questions that you have. There is lots of love available in this satsang. Ardis on 2/12/05 8:52 AM, Mrsangelinalong (AT) aol (DOT) com at Mrsangelinalong (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Thank you all for the information on Shiva. I have really enjoyed reading all that you have written. I am new and trying to learn more. It is very helpful when people explain and go into more details for the newbies. Again Thank you! Angelina Sponsor document.write(' <http://us.ard./SIG=1294pmvof/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108314811/A=2532114/R=1/SIG=12kvkemt0/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1108228411241292> '); <http://us.ard./SIG=1294pmvof/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1108314811/A=2532114/R=2/SIG=12kvkemt0/*http://clk.atdmt.com/NFX/go/yhxxxnfx0020000014nfx/direct/01/&time=1108228411241292> / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Karen, Thank you so much for asking that question on my behalf. You are a great help in my education! You have so much knowledge. I love picking your brain. Angelina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 OM NAMAH SIVAYA dear Karen, i wanted to contribute my thoughts about SIVA but have found it difficult because SIVA's essence is hard to convey. but something came to me this weekend that really exemplifies who SIVA is to me. you see, because of my occupation, sometimes people will give me their book. then typically they tell me how they are the "real deal." this has happened to me a couple of times. i am never quite sure of their intention, but i have found it doesn't really matter. as the book is a gift, and it is free to me. i love a good book so i just read it. the books are usually those life story type books. non-fiction, i guess, at least that's how they are presented. one time i had read only about 26 pages and i was already finding inconsistencies. easy things like dates and numbers not adding up. i don't know about you but i hate it when that happens because once i find one non-truth, or inconsistency, it then becomes more difficult for me to believe any of it. i could be disappointed about it, but what's the point. instead i just try to derive some benefit from it, take something positive from the situation. this is what made me think of SIVA. to me, SIVA is so great (KALI as well for that matter) because both the left and right handed paths worship them. SIVA teaches us Truth is absolute. SIVA has taught me that one doesn't need the truth to know Truth or the real to know Reality. so i just read the story, enjoy the game, and see if there is any Truth in it for me. i just try to learn from it. you see, non-truth can teach Truth, the unreal can teach Reality. and like the late, great, prophet Bob Marley said, "Truth is the light, so you can't give up the fight." another quote of his i love is, "the road to life is rocky and you my stumble too so while you point your finger someone else is judging you. Judge Not." but always give thanks because it's all GOD anyway. God Luck to you. JAI MA , "Karen Borak" <karenborak@e...> wrote: > Shiva? What is Shiva? Who is Shiva? What would you tell a very new but very interested DMC member about Shiva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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