Demystifying Spiritual phrases - 2 - That which moves and does not move

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Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

 

Here is another phrase that stumps me...

 

It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

"That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

move. ..."

 

What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

 

Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have

some insight into this verse.

 

Thank you and Jai Maa

Nanda

[Guest guest]

The Guru is Brahma, the Guru is Vishnu, the Guru is the Lord

Maheshvara. The Guru is actually the Supreme Divinity. Therefore we

bow down to the Respected Guru.

The Guru is Everything. He is the Principle that moves and does not move.

Jai Guru!!!

Ardis

on 2/19/05 12:52 PM, Nanda at chandimaakijai wrote:

Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

Here is another phrase that stumps me...

It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

"That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

move. ..."

What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have

some insight into this verse.

Thank you and Jai Maa

Nanda

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

dear Nanda, maybe it means that...

 

Guru(GOD) is everything and also nothing.

 

JAI MA

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

>

> Here is another phrase that stumps me...

>

> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> move. ..."

>

> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

>

> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but

have

> some insight into this verse.

>

> Thank you and Jai Maa

> Nanda

[Guest guest]

Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,

 

To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who

Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who

Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never

Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.

 

Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!

muktimaa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

>

> Here is another phrase that stumps me...

>

> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> move. ..."

>

> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

>

> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have

> some insight into this verse.

>

> Thank you and Jai Maa

> Nanda

[Guest guest]

Yes, Muktimaa,

 

And the Guru is both

 

Jai Maa Jai Swamiji

Grace

On 20/02/2005, at 10:20 AM, muktimaa wrote:

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>

> Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,

>

> To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who

> Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who 

> Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never

> Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.

>

> Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!

>                   muktimaa

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, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

> wrote:

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> >

> > Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

> >

> > Here is another phrase that stumps me...

> >

> > It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> > "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> > move. ..."

> >

> > What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

> >

> > Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have

> > some insight into this verse.

> >

> > Thank you and Jai Maa

> > Nanda

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, Grace Green <gmgreen108@w...>

wrote:

> Yes, Muktimaa,

> And the Guru is both

> Jai Maa Jai Swamiji

> Grace

 

Jai Guru, Grace!

Yes, the Guru is both... and Beyond. :<)

Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!

muktimaa

 

> On 20/02/2005, at 10:20 AM, muktimaa wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,

> >

> > To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who

> > Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who 

> > Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never

> > Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.

> >

> > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!

> >                   muktimaa

> >

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> > , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

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> > >

> > > Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

> > >

> > > Here is another phrase that stumps me...

> > >

> > > It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> > > "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> > > move. ..."

> > >

> > > What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

> > >

> > > Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but

have

> > > some insight into this verse.

> > >

> > > Thank you and Jai Maa

> > > Nanda

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That’s a great understanding. Thank you, dear sister.

Ardis

on 2/19/05 3:20 PM, muktimaa at muktimaa (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste, Nandaji, and all of our beloved family,

To me, 'That Which Moves' is 'Shakti, the Divine Energy'.She who

Dances Upon the Stage of Consciousness'. She Who

Changes...Nature. 'That Which Moves Not'is Shiva, He Who Never

Changes, the Witness to Shakti's Dance...Consciousness.

Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Ramakrishna Deva!

muktimaa

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

>

> Here is another phrase that stumps me...

>

> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> move. ..."

>

> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

>

> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but have

> some insight into this verse.

>

> Thank you and Jai Maa

> Nanda

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The guru priciple is dynamic, proactive and fosters all manner

transformation toward betterment. Conversely the guru priciple

is also deeply silent, absolutely still and supremely perceptive.

Unmoving all move within it. Without tasting it tastes all things.

Unknowing there is nothing it does not know. This writing could go

on for pages, hours and days, yet it would still be deficient in its

discription of the guru.

 

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

>

> Here is another phrase that stumps me...

>

> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> move. ..."

>

> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

>

> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but

have

> some insight into this verse.

>

> Thank you and Jai Maa

> Nanda

[Guest guest]

Without reaching there is nothing it does not touch. Taking nothing

it encompasses all. Nutritive it vitalizes. All issue from it and in

the end return to it. This is just the way it should be. And this is

the way it is and always will be. Without an adequate word for it we

could call it Maa.

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear All_ye_with_a_vedantic_turn_of_mind ,

>

> Here is another phrase that stumps me...

>

> It says in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> move. ..."

>

> What does it mean to you ? Can you share ?

>

> Please share even if you dont have a vedantic turn of mind but

have

> some insight into this verse.

>

> Thank you and Jai Maa

> Nanda

[Guest guest]

I was reading the Bhagavad Gita this evening, and ran across this:

Chapter 13, verse 15 (Eknath Easwaran's trans.):

 

"It [the beginningless Brahman] is both near and far,

both within and without every creature,

it moves and is unmoving."

 

So I think this phrase can be interpreted to be exactly parallel to

the verses Ardis has quoted below.

 

, Ardis Jackson <ardis1@v...> wrote:

> The Guru is Brahma, the Guru is Vishnu,

> the Guru is the Lord Maheshvara.

> The Guru is actually the Supreme Divinity.

> Therefore we bow down to the

> Respected Guru.

>

> The Guru is Everything.

> He is the Principle that moves and does not move.

>

> >

> on 2/19/05 12:52 PM, Nanda at chandimaakijai wrote:

>

> > [....] in the Guru Gita Verse 62 ...

> > "That (Guru Principle) moves and that (Guru Principle) does not

> > move. ..."