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Namaste Nirmalanandaji and Pahari Maaji (or Pahariji Maa?),

 

perhaps my question about the inner realizations of the Avatar had

better be covered with the mantle of discretion. Who is to know?

Your observation, Nirmalanandaji, concerning Rama's humility reminded

me of the saintly Brother Lawrence who could not imagine why anyone

would be interested in his practice of the Presence of God and only

wrote about it because he was asked to. To be no-body and to know

no-thing and at the same time being every body and knowing every

thing.. You certainly helped me to overcome a stupid prejudice against

the Ramayana (I thought it was just another hero's epos. I have so

much to learn).

thank you both,

with love,

 

Henny

 

, Nirmalananda Saraswati

<nirmalananda1008> wrote:

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> Namaste Henny,

>

> If I may humbly throw in two cents worth - Just an

> observation - Rama appearantly did not know who he

> was, according to the Ramayana, until nearer to the

> end of his life. I think it was in Ravana's letter to

> Rama, which was delivered to Rama after He had slain

> Ravana, that Ravana first told Rama that he was in

> fact Lord Narayan. The Humble Rama said something

> like, "I don't really know what all this means".

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> --- henny_v_i <HvI@S...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Thank you, Dear Pahari Maa, for asking the question

> > about the amsa and

> > thank you for writing about the Avatar. I find this

> > a very difficult

> > concept, because so many different things are said

> > about it, and there

> > is much difference of opinion among certain groups

> > about who is and

> > who is not an avatar. Your remark that there is only

> > One Avatar cuts

> > the matter down to the essential. The question that

> > I still have is

> > this: if The Avatar voluntarily returns to the

> > physical plane, does It

> > know this as soon as It has provided Itself with a

> > physical vehicle,

> > or does it take some time? And is the knowing/not

> > knowing the

> > difference between saints and sinners? So the Avatar

> > manifest on the

> > physical plane would be Knowledge united with Love?

> > You see, you have given me food for meditation,

> >

> > with love,

> >

> > Henny

> >

> >

> > , Ardis Jackson

> > <ardis1@v...> wrote:

> > > We are Divine Partners, Divine Lovers.

> > > We are inseparable, yet we feel separate.

> > > We are One and we are Many.

> > > We are the Avatar.

> > >

> > > From age to age when the forces of Dharma become

> > weak, we take

> > refuge

> > > in a body and return to the physical plane to

> > fight the forces of

> > > division and to re-establish the standards of

> > Truth, Love and Unity.

> > >

> > > We are bound together by our Love. We suffer a

> > lot because of the

> > > perception of duality and separation which comes

> > with a human body.

> > >

> > > Our sacrifice is great.

> > >

> > > Were we chosen to return to this realm or did we

> > volunteer?

> > >

> > > The Buddhists say that the Bodhisattvas do it out

> > of their infinite

> > > compassion for all sentient beings. The Bible

> > makes it sound like

> > > Christ was only acting in obedience to Jehovah's

> > plan. Ramakrishna

> > (an

> > > avatar of the 19th century) tells us "He who was

> > Rama and Krishna is

> > > now in this body appearing as Ramakrishna." One

> > Hindu view is that

> > > there is only one Avatar but several or numerous

> > incarnations; the

> > > Divine voluntarily returning to the physical plane

> > to restore the

> > > Dharma.

> > >

> > > When I first heard about Bodhisattvas, I found it

> > impossible to

> > believe

> > > that any being could have enough compassion to

> > keep on returning to

> > > this realm by choice until all sentient beings had

> > been liberated

> > from

> > > samsara. Krishna said that he returned for pure

> > love's sake.

> > >

> > > Om

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