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Sweet sister,

 

may there be many more occasions for us to dance together,

thank you...

with love,

Henny

 

, "muktimaa" <muktimaa@a...> wrote:

> , "henny_v_i" <HvI@S...> wrote:\

> "Then it dawned on me that the guru IS truth. In

> > that light all arguments become idle, all intellectual pride

> > foolishness.

> > I bow to the Divine Couple who gently lead the thirsty to the

> fountain of living water."

>

> Beloved Hennyji!

> i am weeping in such joy and bliss, because you have realized a very

> very deep and important Truth today. That makes even my toes tingle

> and dance with the shear joy of it! i bow to you, dear Hennyji! And

i

> bow to the source of this inspiration, who you have named so

> beautifully--'The Divine Couple Who gently leads the thirsty to the

> Fountain of Living Water' You know,dearest sister, i do believe that

> is one of the best and most beautiful Names yet! :<D

> Jai Chandi Shree Maa! Jai Shiva Swamiji! Jai Thakur Ramakrishna

Deva!

> Jai Guru!

> muktimaa

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> >\ Dear Steve,

> >

> > thank you for posting the verse. Your commentary really speaks to

> me:

> >

> > > The persuasive power of the Guru is not mind alone, but heart,

> > > discipline, example, knowledge, the ability to soar above ...

many

> > > things. We wouldn't make that mistake, that enlightenment and

> > > realization are mental victories.

> >

> > I have spent a large part of the day arguing in my mind

> about 'points

> > of discussion' triggered by the Guru Gita, such as the 'what is

> truth'

> > question, and 'how can anyone know what truth is'. I guess I got

> > caught in the 'argumentative' mode. So on and on I went, debating

> the

> > matter with a guru-figure in my head (who kind of looked like

> Swamiji)

> > trying to explain to him why I did not think he could know what

> truth

> > was either. I don't know what he said, because although we

> Westerners

> > may have learned how to be critical and defend our own position,

we

> > have not learned to listen very well (or is it just me?)

> > Finally, having become very tired of all this, I got the definite

> urge

> > to go and watch the cd I ordered some time ago and had not seen

> yet,

> > showing Shree Maa and Swamiji doing sadhana at the Jyotirlingams.

> > After the last image had come on the screen, I actually could not

> > speak for half an hour. I never saw or heard something so

beautiful

> > and true in my life. Then it dawned on me that the guru IS truth.

> In

> > that light all arguments become idle, all intellectual pride

> > foolishness.

> >

> > I bow to the Divine Couple who gently lead the thirsty to the

> fountain

> > of living water,

> >

> > Henny

> >

> >

> > , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

> > wrote:

> > > The verse: "One who speaks to the Guru with egotism, to attain

> > victory

> > > in argument, may become a Brahmaraaksasah, a demon filled with

the

> > > pride of learning, in a forest or a place with no water."

> > >

> > > What this says to me is this:

> > >

> > > If we break away from the heart, and throw in our lot with the

> mind,

> > > we will come to a very dry place.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa. Keep feet in the Ganges.

> > >

> > > How does this pertain to us. We can argue until the sun goes

> down.

> > We

> > > can slay all opponents. But we do not see, we are backing into a

> > > corner, alone, defended. This is the nature of mind.

> > >

> > > The persuasive power of the Guru is not mind alone, but heart,

> > > discipline, example, knowledge, the ability to soar above ...

many

> > > things. We wouldn't make that mistake, that enlightenment and

> > > realization are mental victories.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa. The world of mind seems endless. But like so many

broken

> > toys

> > > turning to dust.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa. We cannot win. There is no winning. The Game is not to

> win.

> > > Jai Maa, Jai Maa.

> > >

> > > The battle is not won with the mind, tha battle is against the

> mind.

> > > The two sided sword is discipline and love.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa. This hand, it hands over a small petal to the lingam.

> Where

> > > is that petal going? It is going beyond intellect. The petal, it

> is

> > > touching both your finger, and the divine. The finger, you feel

> > > attached to that. You are going to the divine along with that

> > flower.

> > > You are being left on that lingam, in another dimension.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa. Give the freedom we desire. Jai Maa. Intellect is a

tool

> of

> > > fear. We shed that fear like layers of dust in the water of

> > devotional

> > > practices.

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