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Namaste Dear ones,

 

Here's our verse today -

 

" Oh Goddess, this is the king of mantras, Guru comprised of two

letters. The Puranas and Vedas define the meaning of Guru as the

actual Supreme amongst the highest."

 

 

Comment:

The word GuRu is hailed as the Highest of all mantras. The Supreme Mantra.

 

In Kasyapa Sutra, Swami Satyananda Saraswati defines Guru this way :

"Gu - means darkness. Ru means light. The Supreme Divinity which

destroys ignorance is verily the Guru without a doubt.

The respected Guru is the cause of all causes. The Guru is our

teacher. The Guru is our example. The Divine Guru is our

inspiration."

 

Can anyone share a verse(s) which makes reference to the Guru in this way.

 

 

Jai Gurujis.

 

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Kaliananda wrote :

" Oh Goddess, this is the king of mantras, Guru comprised of two

letters. The Puranas and Vedas define the meaning of Guru as the

actual Supreme amongst the highest."

 

The respected Guru is the cause of all causes. The Guru is our

teacher. The Guru is our example. The Divine Guru is our

inspiration."

 

Can anyone share a verse(s) which makes reference to the Guru in

this way.

 

Dear Kalia,

Thank you for posting that verse and the question.

 

Your question brought to me my mind a song from the Devi Mandir

songbook "Jaya Guru"

 

In it , there is a verse that says

 

Guruhi Shakti

Guruhi Bhakti

Guruhi Shanti

Guruhi Mukti

 

The Guru is the strength, The guru is the devotion, The guru is

peace and the Guru is liberation.

 

That is what I am reminded of .. (not strictly Guru Gita though :-) )

 

JAI GURU

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Kali,

 

I'm sorry, I don't have any verses, but I would like to speak to this

idea of the guru as the highest, of the guru as "...the cause of all

causes..."

 

Since the begining of this study of the Guru Gita, I have been trying

to ferret out the meaning of this Guru, what It is, how it fits into

all of This. Begining with an understanding of the guru as an

individual, I am shown guru as supreme being. Now, I am seeing guru as

universal principle.

 

Swamiji has said that there is no difference between the guru tattwa

and Shiva. The guru tattwa is, in its most basic nature, the bringing

of light to the darkness, consciousness to ignorance.

 

Swamiji says that all of us, all of life, really, is engaged in the

struggle to achieve perfection - ultimately, divine perfection. This

is, I believe, the activity of the guru tattwa. It is part and parcel,

inseperable from the universe.

 

As I see it, the guru principle (tattwa) is the complement to the

darkening quality of maya. In the creation of the universe, first

there was pure, undifferentiated consciousness. Without an impelling

force, consciousness was inert, unable to act. With the division of

Shiva and Shakti creation was born.

 

The birth of Shiva and Shakti was the birth of "I" and "you". It is

this quality of ego, ahamkara (the I maker), or separation, that

characterizes the darkening power of maya. From pure consciousness to

densest matter, the tendency of maya must be to darken. Without an

opposing force, the universe would soon devolve into either pure chaos

or total inertia.

 

The guru tattwa is that opposing force. That guru tattwa is Shiva.

Interestingly, though Shiva as pure consciousness is a natural

opposite to the ignorance of maya, pure consciousness cannot work

without the motivating energy of Shakti. So the guru tattwa, as a

force in motion, as an energy empelling all of creation toward

perfection, must also be a manifestation of Shakti, just as maya is.

 

So, as it says in the Chandi, Divine Mother is both the cause of

darkness and the means of removing it.

 

That guru without four arms and three eyes is then a true servant of

the Universe, expressing the most fundimental, the purest, the highest

meaning of life, as she embodies the very qualities and intentions of

Creation Itself.

 

Jai Shiva!

Jai Shakti!

Jai Gurudeva!

 

Chris

 

 

, Kali Kali

<kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:

>

> Namaste Dear ones,

>

>

>

> Here's our verse today -

>

>

>

> " Oh Goddess, this is the king of mantras, Guru comprised of two

letters. The Puranas and Vedas define the meaning of Guru as the

actual Supreme amongst the highest."

>

>

>

>

>

> Comment:

>

> The word GuRu is hailed as the Highest of all mantras. The Supreme

Mantra.

>

>

>

> In Kasyapa Sutra, Swami Satyananda Saraswati defines Guru this way

:

>

> "Gu - means darkness. Ru means light. The Supreme Divinity which

destroys ignorance is verily the Guru without a doubt.

>

> The respected Guru is the cause of all causes. The Guru is our

teacher. The Guru is our example. The Divine Guru is our

inspiration."

>

>

>

> Can anyone share a verse(s) which makes reference to the Guru in

this way.

>

>

>

>

>

> Jai Gurujis.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Dear Kalia,

 

thank you for posting the verse and the comment. I have found that

verse 69 helps me with verse 107:

 

'by the mere remembrance of him one's own wisdom rises in increase. He

alone is the attainment of all. Therefore we bow down to the respected

Guru'

 

this verse indicates that if we just remember to turn our attention

towards that source of light, the darkness of our own ignorance is

lifted. And every time we become distracted and find ourselves in a

dark place, we can turn our attention in the right direction again by

saying or thinking 'Gu-ru'.

 

with love,

Henny

 

 

 

 

, Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati@y.

...> wrote:

>

> Namaste Dear ones,

>

>

>

> Here's our verse today -

>

>

>

> " Oh Goddess, this is the king of mantras, Guru comprised of two

letters. The Puranas and Vedas define the meaning of Guru as the

actual Supreme amongst the highest."

>

>

>

>

>

> Comment:

>

> The word GuRu is hailed as the Highest of all mantras. The Supreme

Mantra.

>

>

>

> In Kasyapa Sutra, Swami Satyananda Saraswati defines Guru this way :

>

> "Gu - means darkness. Ru means light. The Supreme Divinity which

destroys ignorance is verily the Guru without a doubt.

>

> The respected Guru is the cause of all causes. The Guru is our

teacher. The Guru is our example. The Divine Guru is our

inspiration."

>

>

>

> Can anyone share a verse(s) which makes reference to the Guru in

this way.

>

>

>

>

>

> Jai Gurujis.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

> Mail Mobile

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Kaliahenny_v_i <HvI (AT) SoftHome (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Kalia,thank you for posting the verse and the comment. I have

found that verse 69 helps me with verse 107:'by the mere remembrance

of him one's own wisdom rises in increase. He alone is the attainment

of all. Therefore we bow down to the respected Guru'this verse

indicates that if we just remember to turn our attention towards that

source of light, the darkness of our own ignorance is lifted. And

every time we become distracted and find ourselves in a dark place,

we can turn our attention in the right direction again by saying or

thinking 'Gu-ru'. with love,Henny,

Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:> > Namaste Dear ones,> >

> > Here's our verse today -> > >

> " Oh Goddess, this is the king of mantras, Guru comprised of two

letters. The Puranas and Vedas define the meaning of Guru as the

actual Supreme amongst the highest."> > > > > > Comment: > > The

word GuRu is hailed as the Highest of all mantras. The Supreme

Mantra.> > > > In Kasyapa Sutra, Swami Satyananda Saraswati defines

Guru this way : > > "Gu - means darkness. Ru means light. The

Supreme Divinity which destroys ignorance is verily the Guru without

a doubt. > > The respected Guru is the cause of all causes. The

Guru is our teacher. The Guru is our example. The Divine Guru is

our inspiration."> > > > Can anyone share a verse(s) which makes

reference to the Guru in this way.> > >

> > > Jai Gurujis.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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No apology needed, I understand quite well and am grateful that you

have taken the time to respond. I will ask Nanda Devi, if possible,

to send your response to Swamiji for His input.

Thanks dear one.

Kalia Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote:

Kali,I'm sorry, I don't have any verses, but I would like to speak to

thisidea of the guru as the highest, of the guru as "...the cause of

allcauses..."Since the begining of this study of the Guru Gita, I

have been tryingto ferret out the meaning of this Guru, what It is,

how it fits intoall of This. Begining with an understanding of the

guru as anindividual, I am shown guru as supreme being. Now, I am

seeing guru asuniversal principle.Swamiji has said that there is no

difference between the guru tattwaand Shiva. The guru tattwa is, in

its most basic nature, the bringingof light to the darkness,

consciousness to ignorance.Swamiji says that all of us, all of life,

really, is engaged in thestruggle to achieve perfection - ultimately,

divine perfection. Thisis, I believe, the activity of the guru tattwa.

It is

part and parcel,inseperable from the universe.As I see it, the guru

principle (tattwa) is the complement to thedarkening quality of maya.

In the creation of the universe, firstthere was pure, undifferentiated

consciousness. Without an impellingforce, consciousness was inert,

unable to act. With the division ofShiva and Shakti creation was

born. The birth of Shiva and Shakti was the birth of "I" and "you".

It isthis quality of ego, ahamkara (the I maker), or separation,

thatcharacterizes the darkening power of maya. From pure

consciousness todensest matter, the tendency of maya must be to

darken. Without anopposing force, the universe would soon devolve

into either pure chaosor total inertia.The guru tattwa is that

opposing force. That guru tattwa is Shiva.Interestingly, though Shiva

as pure consciousness is a naturalopposite to the ignorance of maya,

pure consciousness cannot workwithout the motivating

energy of Shakti. So the guru tattwa, as aforce in motion, as an

energy empelling all of creation towardperfection, must also be a

manifestation of Shakti, just as maya is. So, as it says in the

Chandi, Divine Mother is both the cause ofdarkness and the means of

removing it. That guru without four arms and three eyes is then a

true servant ofthe Universe, expressing the most fundimental, the

purest, the highestmeaning of life, as she embodies the very

qualities and intentions ofCreation Itself.Jai Shiva!Jai Shakti!Jai

Gurudeva!Chris, Kali

Kali<kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:> > Namaste Dear ones,> > > >

Here's our verse today -> > > > " Oh Goddess, this is the king of

mantras, Guru comprised of twoletters. The Puranas and Vedas define

the meaning of Guru as

theactual Supreme amongst the highest."> > > > > > Comment: > > The

word GuRu is hailed as the Highest of all mantras. The

SupremeMantra.> > > > In Kasyapa Sutra, Swami Satyananda Saraswati

defines Guru this way: > > "Gu - means darkness. Ru means light.

The Supreme Divinity whichdestroys ignorance is verily the Guru

without a doubt. > > The respected Guru is the cause of all causes.

The Guru is ourteacher. The Guru is our example. The Divine Guru is

ourinspiration."> > > > Can anyone share a verse(s) which makes

reference to the Guru inthis way.> > > > > > Jai Gurujis.> > > > >

> > > > > >

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Kaliananda wrote :" Oh Goddess, this is the king of mantras, Guru

comprised of two letters. The Puranas and Vedas define the meaning

of Guru as the actual Supreme amongst the highest."The respected Guru

is the cause of all causes. The Guru is our teacher. The Guru is

our example. The Divine Guru is our inspiration."Can anyone share a

verse(s) which makes reference to the Guru in this way.Dear

Kalia,Thank you for posting that verse and the question. Your

question brought to me my mind a song from the Devi Mandir songbook

"Jaya Guru"In it , there is a verse that saysGuruhi ShaktiGuruhi

BhaktiGuruhi Shanti Guruhi MuktiThe Guru is the strength, The guru is

the devotion, The guru is peace and the Guru is liberation.That is

what I am

reminded of .. (not strictly Guru Gita though :-) )JAI GURUNanda

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