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Dear All,

As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

Sattva - the balance of the above two.

 

Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above qualities.

The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and action

easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for sadhana.

 

So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any suggestions ? Any

shared experiences ? I would love to know.

 

Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the three thieves

representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one needs to go

beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an aspirant what I

need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for sustained

sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

 

Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

 

Jai GURU

Nanda

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Great (and timely to me) question, I have no answers that I have

implemented yet. :). I look forward to hearing from others.

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

> Dear All,

> As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

> Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

> Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

> Sattva - the balance of the above two.

>

> Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above

qualities.

> The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and

action

> easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for

sadhana.

>

> So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any

suggestions ? Any

> shared experiences ? I would love to know.

>

> Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the

three thieves

> representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one

needs to go

> beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an

aspirant what I

> need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for

sustained

> sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

>

> Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

>

> Jai GURU

> Nanda

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Satva is not the balance of the other two gunas, that would make them sit

on a line. In fact they are each corners of a triangle, the goal is to

balance all three -- to be the bindu in the middle of the triangle yantra.

 

Satva makes it easier to reach the step before the roof, but as

Ramakrishna said, "you must cast off satva to step onto the roof."

 

So desiring satva is good so far as it gets you to that last step, but

don't become attached to it. Its as useless to you as Roger and Thomas

once you get to that last step.

 

Rajas is necessary for if we didn't have him, we'd not climb the steps.

 

Tamas is necessary for if we didnt' have him, we'd not know how to relax

and rest.

 

A balance of all three is necessary for true peace.

 

As for cultivating Satva at the expense of Rajas and Tamas (because satva

is so foreign to our way of thinking these days), here are things I do:

 

1. Don't react to anything. When you feel a button pressed, acknowledge it

and give it to (S)he who takes away.

 

2. Failing that -- and we all do -- don't react to your failure to not

react. In other words, do not be upset, self deprecating or self

justifying after a reaction has occured. Let go of the reaction as soon as

you become aware of it. When you have a reaction and recognize it, beg and

plead with mother to take it away.

 

3. Be truthful. Truth by my understanding always causes as much good for

everyone as possible. Truth should only be used as a weapon where Asuras

are involved. Self Truth is the most important truth. If you can find Self

Truth, you have found God(des).

 

4. Since we must have thoughts, we are not yet masters, we must be in

charge of them, not the other way around (who do ya think causes those

reactions?). So make sure you are commander-in-chief of the thoughts

running around in your head, and make sure you own the feelings you feel

in your heart as well, because ultimately they are your children and your

responsibility. This is the step that gets the Goddess' attention.

 

5. When you aren't peaceful inside, FAKE IT on the outside. What ever it

takes to do what you know is RIGHT, force yourself to FAKE the actions and

feelings necessary to accomplish it. Maa really likes it when we force a

peaceful action out of a non-peaceful mind. It shows Her we identify with

Her and not with the mind and that we want Her more than we want the

DRAMA.

 

6. When you get to the boon granting parts of the pujas, ask for peace for

yourself and ask for it NOW not at some holy future moment.

> Dear All,

> As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

> Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

> Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

> Sattva - the balance of the above two.

>

> Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above qualities.

> The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and action

> easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for

> sadhana.

>

> So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any suggestions ? Any

> shared experiences ? I would love to know.

>

> Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the three

> thieves

> representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one needs to

> go

> beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an aspirant

> what I

> need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for sustained

> sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

>

> Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

>

> Jai GURU

> Nanda

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ok nanda here you go!

 

first, give up drinking and pot.

 

second, give up anger.

 

third, give up cussin'.

 

give up negative thinking.

 

replace with positive thoughts, thoughts of calmness, resolution.

 

do a puja. do a mantra. think about hanuman.

 

meditate on the question: what is truth?

 

fix yourself where you err.

 

give up negative associations, take up good associations.

 

spent quality time alone.

 

that will do change tamas/rajas more to the sattvic side of things.

but remember life is all qualities, even every color has shades.

 

 

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

> Dear All,

> As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

> Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

> Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

> Sattva - the balance of the above two.

>

> Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above

qualities.

> The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and

action

> easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for

sadhana.

>

> So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any suggestions

? Any

> shared experiences ? I would love to know.

>

> Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the three

thieves

> representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one

needs to go

> beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an

aspirant what I

> need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for

sustained

> sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

>

> Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

>

> Jai GURU

> Nanda

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i especially take note of step 5. this will also alleviate creating

further karma, also known as aggravating the situation. peace.

 

, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote:

> Satva is not the balance of the other two gunas, that would make

them sit

> on a line. In fact they are each corners of a triangle, the goal is

to

> balance all three -- to be the bindu in the middle of the triangle

yantra.

>

> Satva makes it easier to reach the step before the roof, but as

> Ramakrishna said, "you must cast off satva to step onto the roof."

>

> So desiring satva is good so far as it gets you to that last step,

but

> don't become attached to it. Its as useless to you as Roger and

Thomas

> once you get to that last step.

>

> Rajas is necessary for if we didn't have him, we'd not climb the

steps.

>

> Tamas is necessary for if we didnt' have him, we'd not know how to

relax

> and rest.

>

> A balance of all three is necessary for true peace.

>

> As for cultivating Satva at the expense of Rajas and Tamas (because

satva

> is so foreign to our way of thinking these days), here are things I

do:

>

> 1. Don't react to anything. When you feel a button pressed,

acknowledge it

> and give it to (S)he who takes away.

>

> 2. Failing that -- and we all do -- don't react to your failure to

not

> react. In other words, do not be upset, self deprecating or self

> justifying after a reaction has occured. Let go of the reaction as

soon as

> you become aware of it. When you have a reaction and recognize it,

beg and

> plead with mother to take it away.

>

> 3. Be truthful. Truth by my understanding always causes as much

good for

> everyone as possible. Truth should only be used as a weapon where

Asuras

> are involved. Self Truth is the most important truth. If you can

find Self

> Truth, you have found God(des).

>

> 4. Since we must have thoughts, we are not yet masters, we must be

in

> charge of them, not the other way around (who do ya think causes

those

> reactions?). So make sure you are commander-in-chief of the thoughts

> running around in your head, and make sure you own the feelings you

feel

> in your heart as well, because ultimately they are your children and

your

> responsibility. This is the step that gets the Goddess' attention.

>

> 5. When you aren't peaceful inside, FAKE IT on the outside. What

ever it

> takes to do what you know is RIGHT, force yourself to FAKE the

actions and

> feelings necessary to accomplish it. Maa really likes it when we

force a

> peaceful action out of a non-peaceful mind. It shows Her we identify

with

> Her and not with the mind and that we want Her more than we want the

> DRAMA.

>

> 6. When you get to the boon granting parts of the pujas, ask for

peace for

> yourself and ask for it NOW not at some holy future moment.

>

> > Dear All,

> > As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

> > Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

> > Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

> > Sattva - the balance of the above two.

> >

> > Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above

qualities.

> > The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and

action

> > easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for

> > sadhana.

> >

> > So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any

suggestions ? Any

> > shared experiences ? I would love to know.

> >

> > Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the

three

> > thieves

> > representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one

needs to

> > go

> > beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an

aspirant

> > what I

> > need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for

sustained

> > sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

> >

> > Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

> >

> > Jai GURU

> > Nanda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> > /

> >

> >

> > Terms of

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Nanda,

 

I wish I had some comforting words for you...a simple answer to your

question, a solution to your dilemma, that would allow you to infuse

your mind and heart with purity and abundance of energy, but I do not.

 

I have been praying for sattwa for years.

 

I have come to the conclusion that (for me at least) spiritual life is

very difficult; it is a struggle and a disappiontment, in the very

deep places of the heart. But it can be equally rewarding and full,

given the proper food of satsanga, and sadhana. But the struggle

remains, nevertheless.

 

But there is a day, one special day, in the life of every spiritual

aspirant, when the clouds part, the thunder claps, and the sun of

glory bursts forth, bathing the mind and heart in such abundance of

purity that you are never the same again. That is a day of happiness

such that all pain is forgotten, as a mother (or so I've heard)

forgets the pain of labor.

 

I pray for that day; we all of us, pray for that day. There is no

other choice, We must wait for the sun to come up. What else can we

do? Until then we prepare, to ease its rising.

 

There is great hope in Swamiji's words that realization is not just

for priests and pandits and special people, but for everyone.

 

Jai Maa!

Chris

 

 

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai> wrote:

> Dear All,

> As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

> Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

> Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

> Sattva - the balance of the above two.

>

> Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above

qualities.

> The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and

action

> easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for

sadhana.

>

> So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any suggestions

? Any

> shared experiences ? I would love to know.

>

> Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the three

thieves

> representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one

needs to go

> beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an

aspirant what I

> need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for

sustained

> sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

>

> Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

>

> Jai GURU

> Nanda

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swamiji said it is a battle. so we might have victories, but battle is

battle; the fight itself becomes the thing for peace warriors,

fighting inner battles.

 

RAJ TARWAL

 

, "Chris Kirner"

<chriskirner1956> wrote:

> Nanda,

>

> I wish I had some comforting words for you...a simple answer to your

> question, a solution to your dilemma, that would allow you to infuse

> your mind and heart with purity and abundance of energy, but I do

not.

>

> I have been praying for sattwa for years.

>

> I have come to the conclusion that (for me at least) spiritual life

is

> very difficult; it is a struggle and a disappiontment, in the very

> deep places of the heart. But it can be equally rewarding and full,

> given the proper food of satsanga, and sadhana. But the struggle

> remains, nevertheless.

>

> But there is a day, one special day, in the life of every spiritual

> aspirant, when the clouds part, the thunder claps, and the sun of

> glory bursts forth, bathing the mind and heart in such abundance of

> purity that you are never the same again. That is a day of happiness

> such that all pain is forgotten, as a mother (or so I've heard)

> forgets the pain of labor.

>

> I pray for that day; we all of us, pray for that day. There is no

> other choice, We must wait for the sun to come up. What else can we

> do? Until then we prepare, to ease its rising.

>

> There is great hope in Swamiji's words that realization is not just

> for priests and pandits and special people, but for everyone.

>

> Jai Maa!

> Chris

>

>

>

> , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

> > Dear All,

> > As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

> > Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

> > Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

> > Sattva - the balance of the above two.

> >

> > Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above

> qualities.

> > The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and

> action

> > easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for

> sadhana.

> >

> > So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any

suggestions

> ? Any

> > shared experiences ? I would love to know.

> >

> > Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the

three

> thieves

> > representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one

> needs to go

> > beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an

> aspirant what I

> > need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for

> sustained

> > sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

> >

> > Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

> >

> > Jai GURU

> > Nanda

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Nanda,

 

Reading through the other's responses and thinking about your question

some more, there are a couple things I want to add to my earlier

response, which, though true, I think, was not very helpful.

 

First, I can feel you chomping at the bit of your tendencies, wanting

to be free...

 

I wish I could help you...

 

The only positive suggestions I can make are to keep pushing through

every obstacle (keeping in mind Sadhvi's comment about relaxing into

the love), and (most important) drink the water that flows from the

feet of the Guru. The grace of the guru is the prasad of our efforts.

If you can be one with the Guru, when the time is ripe, you will have

your sattwa (and you will ripen more quickly).

 

BTW: Sattwa is much much more than mere balance for the other gunas.

Going beyond the gunas is going beyond everything, even knowledge.

There is a lot of value to the aspirant in between.

 

May God bless your Great Desire.

 

Jai Maa!

Chris

 

 

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai> wrote:

> Dear All,

> As most of us know, there are three gunas or qualities -

> Tamas - quality of rest/ignorance/inertia

> Rajas - quality of action/restlessness

> Sattva - the balance of the above two.

>

> Most of us have preponderance towards one or more of the above

qualities.

> The lucky few that are sattvic in nature seem to combine rest and

action

> easily. They are able to balance out and are thus most suited for

sadhana.

>

> So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any suggestions

? Any

> shared experiences ? I would love to know.

>

> Pretty sure that most of us would have heard the story of the three

thieves

> representing the three gunas, and also would have read that one

needs to go

> beyond the three gunas to realize God. This is great, but as an

aspirant what I

> need right now is to learn how to prepare and purify myself for

sustained

> sadhana, so looking forward to suggestions in this direction.

>

> Thank you all for your valuable input and thoughtful suggestions.

>

> Jai GURU

> Nanda

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>So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any suggestions ? Any

shared experiences ? I would love to know.

 

Another of my teachers, Dr. David Frawley says that "Sattva is the balance

of Rajas and Tamas, combining the energy of Rajas with the stability of

Tamas. By increasing Sattva, one gains peace and harmony, and returns to

primordial nature and Pure Spirit, in which is liberation.

 

To have Sattva predominant in our nature is the key to health, creativity,

and spirituality. Those who are predominantly Sattvic strive towards

balance, are considerate of others and take care of themselves. They see

all life as a learning experience and look for the good in all things.

 

We must develop love and awareness as universal forces and learn to

transcend the limitations of the human condition to our higher spiritual

nature. Inner peace must become our dominant force. We should no longer

seek to overcome our pain but to develop our joy. We should no longer be

centered in our personal or collective problems but in developing communion

with the greater universe and the Divine power at work within it." From

'Ayurveda and the Mind'

 

Personally, I suspect that since we are here Sattva is already a dominant

quality for most, if not all, of us. Doing sadhana and eating food that is

fresh, organic and didn't live in suffering are Sattvic, as well as allowing

our hearts to open to love and compassion. Performing Seva and yoga, as

well as singing the names of God, meditation, and devotional practices also

lead us there.

 

As I write this it occurs to me that remembering all faces and forms are God

is the most simple answer.

 

JAI MAA

OM Shanti

Morningsong

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Very nice to see you, Morningsong. It's been a while :)

 

Jai Maa!

Chris

 

 

, "CYNKAY MORNINGSONG"

<morngsong@p...> wrote:

> >So question is , how do we get to be more sattvic ? Any suggestions

? Any

> shared experiences ? I would love to know.

>

> Another of my teachers, Dr. David Frawley says that "Sattva is the

balance

> of Rajas and Tamas, combining the energy of Rajas with the stability of

> Tamas. By increasing Sattva, one gains peace and harmony, and

returns to

> primordial nature and Pure Spirit, in which is liberation.

>

> To have Sattva predominant in our nature is the key to health,

creativity,

> and spirituality. Those who are predominantly Sattvic strive towards

> balance, are considerate of others and take care of themselves.

They see

> all life as a learning experience and look for the good in all things.

>

> We must develop love and awareness as universal forces and learn to

> transcend the limitations of the human condition to our higher

spiritual

> nature. Inner peace must become our dominant force. We should no

longer

> seek to overcome our pain but to develop our joy. We should no

longer be

> centered in our personal or collective problems but in developing

communion

> with the greater universe and the Divine power at work within it."

From

> 'Ayurveda and the Mind'

>

> Personally, I suspect that since we are here Sattva is already a

dominant

> quality for most, if not all, of us. Doing sadhana and eating food

that is

> fresh, organic and didn't live in suffering are Sattvic, as well as

allowing

> our hearts to open to love and compassion. Performing Seva and

yoga, as

> well as singing the names of God, meditation, and devotional

practices also

> lead us there.

>

> As I write this it occurs to me that remembering all faces and forms

are God

> is the most simple answer.

>

> JAI MAA

> OM Shanti

> Morningsong

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Dear All,

Thank you for your responses to the question... A little recap ...

 

Brian wrote :Maa really likes it when we force a peaceful action out

of a non-peaceful mind."

 

Steve said "meditate on the question: what is truth?"

 

Chris, who has been chanting and meditating and absorbing the Guru

gita , said , true to form :The grace of the guru is the prasad of

our efforts"

 

Gentle Morningsong ventured a beautiful comment - " We should no

longer be centered in our personal or collective problems but in

developing communion with the greater universe and the Divine power

at work within it"

 

And a long time practitioner of sadhana whose name reflects sadhana -

Sadhvi, gleaned from her experience "much of that preparation is

learning how to let go of trying to control the process so much and,

instead, relaxing into the pure love of the practices"

 

Thank you all for your thoughtful responses...

 

So I asked Maa when I saw her last week..."Maa, how can I be more

sattvic.."

 

Maa stopped, looked at me thoughtfully and asked "you are not

sattvic ?".

 

and I said "No Maa"

 

And Maa said "Do your Karma, and tell Chandi Maa that everything is

Her doing"

 

So Simple - given knowing the heart of devotee.

 

I sent an email to Swamiji too, with the same question... and He

didnt answer. I suppose He knew that I knew the answer

 

almost as soon as I sent the question to Him " JUST KEEP AT THE

SADHANA !!!! "

 

JAI MAA

Nanda

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Nanda,

 

I was wondering if you would be willing to share what that means to

you (what Maa said). Was it very meaningful?

 

I don't know about you, but I have a hard time accepting or

understanding the things Maa says sometimes. It's like her sense of

things, her vision of truth, is so far beyond mine, that I lack a

proper frame of reference. Not always, but sometimes...

 

In this case, maybe it's because I don't really get that all my

actions are Mother's. I can understand that it's true, but it's one of

those things that is not part of my experience yet, so I have a hard

time "feeling it".

 

I suppose that's the point, though, isn't it? It's like her saying, as

she wrote to me once, "Respect your actions all the time and you will

feel closer to God. Ultimately you will become God." For the longest

time I had no idea what she meant at all. Now I do. She's saying I

need to see all my actions as divine offerings, or as divine activity.

 

I still don't "see" it, but perhaps I'm getting closer.

 

Jai Maa!

Chris

 

 

 

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai> wrote:

> Dear All,

> Thank you for your responses to the question... A little recap ...

>

> Brian wrote :Maa really likes it when we force a peaceful action out

> of a non-peaceful mind."

>

> Steve said "meditate on the question: what is truth?"

>

> Chris, who has been chanting and meditating and absorbing the Guru

> gita , said , true to form :The grace of the guru is the prasad of

> our efforts"

>

> Gentle Morningsong ventured a beautiful comment - " We should no

> longer be centered in our personal or collective problems but in

> developing communion with the greater universe and the Divine power

> at work within it"

>

> And a long time practitioner of sadhana whose name reflects sadhana -

> Sadhvi, gleaned from her experience "much of that preparation is

> learning how to let go of trying to control the process so much and,

> instead, relaxing into the pure love of the practices"

>

> Thank you all for your thoughtful responses...

>

> So I asked Maa when I saw her last week..."Maa, how can I be more

> sattvic.."

>

> Maa stopped, looked at me thoughtfully and asked "you are not

> sattvic ?".

>

> and I said "No Maa"

>

> And Maa said "Do your Karma, and tell Chandi Maa that everything is

> Her doing"

>

> So Simple - given knowing the heart of devotee.

>

> I sent an email to Swamiji too, with the same question... and He

> didnt answer. I suppose He knew that I knew the answer

>

> almost as soon as I sent the question to Him " JUST KEEP AT THE

> SADHANA !!!! "

>

> JAI MAA

> Nanda

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nanda thanks as always for your tireless efforts to share your

experience at the mandir with us, it is very beneficial to peek thru

this window.

 

talwar

 

, "Nanda" <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

> Dear All,

> Thank you for your responses to the question... A little recap ...

>

> Brian wrote :Maa really likes it when we force a peaceful action

out

> of a non-peaceful mind."

>

> Steve said "meditate on the question: what is truth?"

>

> Chris, who has been chanting and meditating and absorbing the Guru

> gita , said , true to form :The grace of the guru is the prasad of

> our efforts"

>

> Gentle Morningsong ventured a beautiful comment - " We should no

> longer be centered in our personal or collective problems but in

> developing communion with the greater universe and the Divine power

> at work within it"

>

> And a long time practitioner of sadhana whose name reflects sadhana

-

> Sadhvi, gleaned from her experience "much of that preparation is

> learning how to let go of trying to control the process so much

and,

> instead, relaxing into the pure love of the practices"

>

> Thank you all for your thoughtful responses...

>

> So I asked Maa when I saw her last week..."Maa, how can I be more

> sattvic.."

>

> Maa stopped, looked at me thoughtfully and asked "you are not

> sattvic ?".

>

> and I said "No Maa"

>

> And Maa said "Do your Karma, and tell Chandi Maa that everything is

> Her doing"

>

> So Simple - given knowing the heart of devotee.

>

> I sent an email to Swamiji too, with the same question... and He

> didnt answer. I suppose He knew that I knew the answer

>

> almost as soon as I sent the question to Him " JUST KEEP AT THE

> SADHANA !!!! "

>

> JAI MAA

> Nanda

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In a message dated 5/25/05 7:32:43 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, chriskirner1956 writes:

I suppose that's the point, though, isn't it? It's like her saying,

asshe wrote to me once, "Respect your actions all the time and you

willfeel closer to God. Ultimately you will become God." For the

longesttime I had no idea what she meant at all. Now I do. She's

saying Ineed to see all my actions as divine offerings, or as divine

activity. I still don't "see" it, but perhaps I'm getting closer.

Namaste Chris,

You are doing through the light of the divine, through the mind and

body you call you.

Om Namah Sivaya

Kanda

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In a message dated 5/25/05 11:22:13 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, brian (AT) soulspark (DOT) org writes:

1. Stand in front of a Mirror (best is full length mirror and be

nude).2. Stare at your face, looking at all details, see

imperfections.

Namaste Brian,

A day or so ago, when standing in front of the mirror ( not full

length ) and looking at my face a twelve year old me was looking

back. The light in the eyes a pure bright light, then it was me

today and the same pure bright light in the eyes.

Om Namah Sivaya

With Love

Kanda

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A method I developed for myself a few years ago for recognizing divinity

within myself goes like this:

 

1. Stand in front of a Mirror (best is full length mirror and be nude).

2. Stare at your face, looking at all details, see imperfections.

3. Notice details, make faces at yourself, notice attitudes and reactions.

Notice feelings.

4. Then take hold of all those thoughts and feelings and squeeze them by

looking directly into your eyes.

5. Stare deeply into your eyes. Stare into one then stare into the other.

Are there feelings coming up? Grab hold of them by staring more deeply

into your eyes.

6. Let whatever happens, happen. Let whatever thoughts come up, come up,

but always keep staring at the depth and breadth of the reality behind

your eyes.

7. Then, when the intensity makes you feel like you're going crazy repeat

this magical mantra, "I love you."

8. If feelings and reactions come up, let them be, but keep focusing into

your eyes. Notice the depth of compassion found in the light within those

eyes.

9. Say it again, "I love you."

10. Repeat 8 and 9 until there is peacefulness or if nothing else a sense

of wonder and amazement.

 

This process shows you that there's more to you than your body, mind and

senses. The eyes are truly the gateway to who you are. The Soul cannot

hide behind your eyes for long without being seen, especially when you

call to Her by saying, "I love You."

 

"I love you" is Her loving you, and its you loving Her, its the

acknowledgement of the relationship, the acceptance of Her into your life,

and an expression of your desire to know Her.

 

Remember one fact: every thought and every feeling you experience while

performing this simple exercize is your mind's way of trying to get you to

try to identify with it instead of She Who Lies Hidden Within Our Eyes.

And every thought which you let go will pass into the consciousness of She

Who Tears Apart Thought becoming a sacrifice you give to Her so you may be

peaceful.

 

An admission of self love is not vanity, it is acknowledgement of who we

truly are.

 

One last thing: the harder it is to do this, the more likely you are to

succeed. The more you feel the struggle in your mind, the closer She is.

 

Goddess bless.

> Nanda,

>

> I was wondering if you would be willing to share what that means to

> you (what Maa said). Was it very meaningful?

>

> I don't know about you, but I have a hard time accepting or

> understanding the things Maa says sometimes. It's like her sense of

> things, her vision of truth, is so far beyond mine, that I lack a

> proper frame of reference. Not always, but sometimes...

>

> In this case, maybe it's because I don't really get that all my

> actions are Mother's. I can understand that it's true, but it's one of

> those things that is not part of my experience yet, so I have a hard

> time "feeling it".

>

> I suppose that's the point, though, isn't it? It's like her saying, as

> she wrote to me once, "Respect your actions all the time and you

> will

> feel closer to God. Ultimately you will become God." For the longest

> time I had no idea what she meant at all. Now I do. She's saying I

> need to see all my actions as divine offerings, or as divine activity.

>

> I still don't "see" it, but perhaps I'm getting closer.

>

> Jai Maa!

> Chris

>

>

>

>

> , "Nanda" wrote:

> > Dear All,

> > Thank you for your responses to the question... A little recap ...

> >

> > Brian wrote :Maa really likes it when we force a peaceful action out

> > of a non-peaceful mind."

> >

> > Steve said "meditate on the question: what is truth?"

> >

> > Chris, who has been chanting and meditating and absorbing the Guru

> > gita , said , true to form :The grace of the guru is the prasad of

> > our efforts"

> >

> > Gentle Morningsong ventured a beautiful comment - " We should no

> > longer be centered in our personal or collective problems but in

> > developing communion with the greater universe and the Divine power

> > at work within it"

> >

> > And a long time practitioner of sadhana whose name reflects sadhana -

> > Sadhvi, gleaned from her experience "much of that preparation is

> > learning how to let go of trying to control the process so much and,

> > instead, relaxing into the pure love of the practices"

> >

> > Thank you all for your thoughtful responses...

> >

> > So I asked Maa when I saw her last week..."Maa, how can I be more

> > sattvic.."

> >

> > Maa stopped, looked at me thoughtfully and asked "you are not

> > sattvic ?".

> >

> > and I said "No Maa"

> >

> > And Maa said "Do your Karma, and tell Chandi Maa that everything

> is

> > Her doing"

> >

> > So Simple - given knowing the heart of devotee.

> >

> > I sent an email to Swamiji too, with the same question... and He

> > didnt answer. I suppose He knew that I knew the answer

> >

> > almost as soon as I sent the question to Him " JUST KEEP AT THE

> > SADHANA !!!! "

> >

> > JAI MAA

> > Nanda

>

>

>

>

>

> Links

>

> /

>

>

>

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I share the sentiments expressed by Steve.

Parnams and may Mother continue to sustain and direct you.

KaliaSteve Connor <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote:

nanda thanks as always for your tireless efforts to share

yourexperience at the mandir with us, it is very beneficial to peek

thruthis window.talwar, "Nanda"

<chandimaakijai>wrote:> Dear All,> Thank you for your responses

to the question... A little recap ...> > Brian wrote :Maa really

likes it when we force a peaceful actionout > of a non-peaceful

mind."> > Steve said "meditate on the question: what is truth?"> >

Chris, who has been chanting and meditating and absorbing the Guru >

gita , said , true to form :The grace of the guru is the prasad of >

our efforts"> > Gentle Morningsong ventured a beautiful comment - "

We should no > longer be centered in our personal or collective

problems but in >

developing communion with the greater universe and the Divine power >

at work within it"> > And a long time practitioner of sadhana whose

name reflects sadhana-> Sadhvi, gleaned from her experience "much of

that preparation is > learning how to let go of trying to control the

process so muchand, > instead, relaxing into the pure love of the

practices"> > Thank you all for your thoughtful responses...> > So I

asked Maa when I saw her last week..."Maa, how can I be more >

sattvic.."> > Maa stopped, looked at me thoughtfully and asked "you

are not > sattvic ?". > > and I said "No Maa"> > And Maa said "Do

your Karma, and tell Chandi Maa that everything is > Her doing"> > So

Simple - given knowing the heart of devotee.> > I sent an email to

Swamiji too, with the same question... and He > didnt answer. I

suppose He knew that I knew the answer > > almost as soon as I sent

the question to Him " JUST KEEP AT THE > SADHANA !!!! "> > JAI MAA>

NandaDo You

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I have seen past faces, I have seen many places and many many races.

 

The pupils change color, the hair comes and goes, the gender flips back

and forth, but the energy within the guise is always the same light behind

my eyes.

 

Seeing in the mirror that child staring hence is the best reminder of all

for our innocence.

 

>

> In a message dated 5/25/05 11:22:13 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> brian writes:

>

> 1. Stand in front of a Mirror (best is full length mirror and be nude).

> 2. Stare at your face, looking at all details, see imperfections.

>

>

>

> Namaste Brian,

>

> A day or so ago, when standing in front of the mirror ( not full length )

> and looking at my face a twelve year old me was looking back. The light

> in the

> eyes a pure bright light, then it was me today and the same pure bright

> light in the eyes.

>

> Om Namah Sivaya

>

> With Love

>

> Kanda

>

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Brian,

 

Thanks for this personal example of your experience.

 

I have practiced this myself, on occasion (without the naked part,

though :) )

 

It is a very good practice, I think.

 

In general, for whatever it's worth, this practice of gazing is known

as tratak, and, if you are very advanced, may be done on anything to

discern everything there is to know about it (requires samadhi). It is

also used to develop psychic siddhis. However, it does have a

downside. It is very easy to overdo this practice, as it is very

subtle and very intense. Overdoing can damage the nadis and

prematurely intensify whatever emotional complexes may exist. The

effect is probably temporary, but can be extremely disruptive. It's

good to keep this in mind when you practice.

 

Jai Maa!

Chris

 

 

 

, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote:

> A method I developed for myself a few years ago for recognizing divinity

> within myself goes like this:

>

> 1. Stand in front of a Mirror (best is full length mirror and be nude).

> 2. Stare at your face, looking at all details, see imperfections.

> 3. Notice details, make faces at yourself, notice attitudes and

reactions.

> Notice feelings.

> 4. Then take hold of all those thoughts and feelings and squeeze them by

> looking directly into your eyes.

> 5. Stare deeply into your eyes. Stare into one then stare into the

other.

> Are there feelings coming up? Grab hold of them by staring more deeply

> into your eyes.

> 6. Let whatever happens, happen. Let whatever thoughts come up, come up,

> but always keep staring at the depth and breadth of the reality behind

> your eyes.

> 7. Then, when the intensity makes you feel like you're going crazy

repeat

> this magical mantra, "I love you."

> 8. If feelings and reactions come up, let them be, but keep focusing

into

> your eyes. Notice the depth of compassion found in the light within

those

> eyes.

> 9. Say it again, "I love you."

> 10. Repeat 8 and 9 until there is peacefulness or if nothing else a

sense

> of wonder and amazement.

>

> This process shows you that there's more to you than your body, mind and

> senses. The eyes are truly the gateway to who you are. The Soul cannot

> hide behind your eyes for long without being seen, especially when you

> call to Her by saying, "I love You."

>

> "I love you" is Her loving you, and its you loving Her, its the

> acknowledgement of the relationship, the acceptance of Her into your

life,

> and an expression of your desire to know Her.

>

> Remember one fact: every thought and every feeling you experience while

> performing this simple exercize is your mind's way of trying to get

you to

> try to identify with it instead of She Who Lies Hidden Within Our Eyes.

> And every thought which you let go will pass into the consciousness

of She

> Who Tears Apart Thought becoming a sacrifice you give to Her so you

may be

> peaceful.

>

> An admission of self love is not vanity, it is acknowledgement of who we

> truly are.

>

> One last thing: the harder it is to do this, the more likely you are to

> succeed. The more you feel the struggle in your mind, the closer She is.

>

> Goddess bless.

>

> > Nanda,

> >

> > I was wondering if you would be willing to share what that means to

> > you (what Maa said). Was it very meaningful?

> >

> > I don't know about you, but I have a hard time accepting or

> > understanding the things Maa says sometimes. It's like her sense of

> > things, her vision of truth, is so far beyond mine, that I lack a

> > proper frame of reference. Not always, but sometimes...

> >

> > In this case, maybe it's because I don't really get that all my

> > actions are Mother's. I can understand that it's true, but it's

one of

> > those things that is not part of my experience yet, so I have a hard

> > time "feeling it".

> >

> > I suppose that's the point, though, isn't it? It's like her

saying, as

> > she wrote to me once, "Respect your actions all the time

and you

> > will

> > feel closer to God. Ultimately you will become God." For the

longest

> > time I had no idea what she meant at all. Now I do. She's saying I

> > need to see all my actions as divine offerings, or as divine

activity.

> >

> > I still don't "see" it, but perhaps I'm getting closer.

> >

> > Jai Maa!

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Nanda" wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > > Thank you for your responses to the question... A little recap ...

> > >

> > > Brian wrote :Maa really likes it when we force a peaceful

action out

> > > of a non-peaceful mind."

> > >

> > > Steve said "meditate on the question: what is truth?"

> > >

> > > Chris, who has been chanting and meditating and absorbing the Guru

> > > gita , said , true to form :The grace of the guru is the prasad of

> > > our efforts"

> > >

> > > Gentle Morningsong ventured a beautiful comment - " We

should no

> > > longer be centered in our personal or collective problems but in

> > > developing communion with the greater universe and the Divine power

> > > at work within it"

> > >

> > > And a long time practitioner of sadhana whose name reflects

sadhana -

> > > Sadhvi, gleaned from her experience "much of that

preparation is

> > > learning how to let go of trying to control the process so much

and,

> > > instead, relaxing into the pure love of the practices"

> > >

> > > Thank you all for your thoughtful responses...

> > >

> > > So I asked Maa when I saw her last week..."Maa, how can I

be more

> > > sattvic.."

> > >

> > > Maa stopped, looked at me thoughtfully and asked "you are not

> > > sattvic ?".

> > >

> > > and I said "No Maa"

> > >

> > > And Maa said "Do your Karma, and tell Chandi Maa that

everything

> > is

> > > Her doing"

> > >

> > > So Simple - given knowing the heart of devotee.

> > >

> > > I sent an email to Swamiji too, with the same question... and He

> > > didnt answer. I suppose He knew that I knew the answer

> > >

> > > almost as soon as I sent the question to Him " JUST KEEP

AT THE

> > > SADHANA !!!! "

> > >

> > > JAI MAA

> > > Nanda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> > /

> >

> >

> >

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