to Chris on Guru Gita vs 119

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> Anyway, I hope you'll all take a few minutes to contemplate these

> verses again, with an eye toward their interconnection. There is

real

> beauty in their complex organization.

 

I certainly will, thank you for showing me.

 

There is real

> beauty in their complex organization.

 

As above, so below,

 

with love,

Henny

 

 

, "Chris Kirner" <chriskirner1956@y.

...> wrote:

> Kalia,

>

> This verse appears to complete the arc of verses from 109-119, and

> begin the focus on the "liberated devotee" (see vs.127), that

actually

> began in vs. 118.

>

> This arc of verses, from 109-119 is a really good example of the

> subtlty and complexity of the author's method of teaching. Each

verse

> is succinct, saying no more than necessary, yet at once building on

> the previous verse, preparing the way for the next, and even

> occasionally foreshadowing a new concept a few verses away. The

> individual concepts are so interwoven, and so logically presented

that

> one can often find new connections and richness of meaning in any

> given verse a page or two behind or ahead.

>

> My impulse is to go through the verses individually and discuss

their

> connections and how they build from one idea to the next, but that

> would take pages. Instead, look at the first two verses, 109 and

110.

>

> We already know this section is generally about the individual soul

as

> Supereme Consciousness, well, 109 begins by explaining what Supreme

> Consciousness is, then says, It is within us all, "...just as all

> lights are illuminated by one light." This is the initial summation,

> the introduction to the concepts to be presented. This is where the

> author "Tells us what he's gonna tell us." This continues in verse

> 110, with the reiteration, "...the individual soul is perceived...,

> and ...the wisdom of one's own soul arises." To this is added a new

> bit which ties this new concept to all that came before, and

continues

> through to the end, the guru. We are told, it is all due to the

guru's

> grace, "by means of this path of the Guru."

>

> Now let's go to the final verse of the series, verse 119, the verse

> that ties it all together, the verse that "tells us what he told us.

"

> This verse says "When one meditates upon the Guru, he himself

becomes

> the manifestation of Supreme Divinity."

>

> In between, we are led along a perfect arc describing Supreme

> Consciousness, Guru as Supreme Consciousness, Supreme Consciousness

as

> a soul, individual soul as Supreme Consciousness, how to perceive

the

> soul, and what the experience of the soul as Supreme Consciousness

> might feel like.

>

> This verse also appears to transition into another section focusing

on

> the experience of "a liberated devotee." The meaning of the terms

> "pindapada" and "rupa" are given in the text, but what it means

to

> be "liberated in" them is unclear to me. Also unclear is why these

> particular terms are used. They seem to relate to the performance of

> puja (yes?). Perhaps they are intended to evoke the image of one's

> sadhana, the path of the guru, as a gurupuja, in which we receive

"the

> prasad of grace" as liberation in all that we offered, pinda, pada,

> and rupa, transformed.

>

> Anyway, I hope you'll all take a few minutes to contemplate these

> verses again, with an eye toward their interconnection. There is

real

> beauty in their complex organization.

>

> Jai Maa!

> Chris

>

>

>

> , Kali Kali

> <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> >

> >

> > Please share your thoughts on today's verse :

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> >

> > "When one meditates upon the Guru, he himself becomes the

> manifestationof Supreme Divinity. He is liberated in pinda

> (consecrated offering), pada (sacred syllables), and in rupa (form)

..

> Of this there is no doubt."

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> > Pranams.

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> > Kalia

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