Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Question from Chris: There are four successive verses mentioning pinda, pada, and rupa (119-122). This is a lot of reinforcement of this idea. Pinda, pada, and rupa are gross, outward actions, the author is using to describe a very subtle, or inward, process. Why? My thought is that these are meant to bring to mind all of the outward activities we perform that are our gurupuja, of which, this awakening is the "prasad of grace." But then he goes on to say very clearly that we are "liberated in" each of these three, seperately. I do not understand this. Why not 'liberated through,' or 'liberated by'? What does this mean? Swamiji's response: Liberation occurs when our consciousness dwells in all action as a consecrated offering. Liberation occurs when our consciousness dwells in the sacred syllables. Liberation occurs when our consciousness dwells in the form of one-pointed awareness. Question from Chris: Verses 113-118 and verses 119-127 seem to follow a similar pattern. There is the description of a practice and experience followed by a description of what it might be like to be enlightened. At first, I thought these two sections were separate; then I decided they overlapped, both describing the same thing; now I find myself thinking (minus the descriptions of divine experience) they are sequential. The sequence would go something like this: Meditate on the Guru in the space of the heart; know Him there as your own soul; see Him there as a light the size of the thumb, where He illuminates perfect clarity and gives rise to a special bhaava. By means of this meditation (as the prasad of grace of the Guru) Kundalini rises, Shiva and Shakti (ham sah) are united to form bindu, and when bindu is pierced, form is transcended. Do I have this right, or have I missed something? Swamiji's response: Beautiful!!! Question from Chris: Now, about ham sah arising in the heart. I've been wrestling with this, thinking well, maybe it's a practice, maybe it's actually a subtle sound that arises in the heart at a certain point, but I'm thinking now that maybe your earlier answer to Kalia was the answer to this as well, and this too is the one lotus of which we are speaking. If I am remembering correctly, bindu is said to rise from the ajna chakra, BUT it is experienced in anahata, isn't it? Bindu is described in the text as one-pointed awareness. But bindu is also ham Sah, isn't it, the union of Shiva and Shakti, the union of the two breaths (not quite perfected?)? Let's see if I can describe this properly then, Kundalini rises when there is union (or at least balance of) the two breaths on the gross level. Her arising creates one-pointed awareness, bringing about the formation of bindu, perceived in the heart as the two subtle breaths, so ham, are brought into union, creating ham sah. Uniting entirely with Her, they (we, I) pierce the bindu glorious ). So, if I've gotten this right, it is all a single process, created by a single cause, the rising lotus Kundalini. Swamiji's response: Jai Maa!!! Also, the heart is the seat of LOVE, and when we are one in that LOVE, Shiva and Shakti are in union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.