Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 peace henny certain percent of our texts come from a very different time and place. we are updating them as we address such lines, so to speak. at one time, there was no heat or a/c, different diseases were feared, etc. the role an animal skin blanket played was not as it is today. the best blanket is no blanket. steve , "henny_v_i" <HvI@S...> wrote: > Dear Kalia, > > the verses about the seat are beyond my understanding. I am eager to > learn what merit there is in sitting on a dead animal's skin. Is the > animal symbolic of certain attributes like swiftness or courage? > > with love, > Henny > > > > , Kali Kali > <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > The instructions on the seat continues - > > > > "By reciting while sitting upon a black deer skin brings the > attainment of wisdom, and upon a tiger skin, self-realization. Upon a > seat of kusha grass brings the attainment of wisdom, and upon a > blanket brings the attainment of all." > > > > > > Nanda, is there any discussion by Maa and/or Swamiji that you can > share with us regarding the seat? > > > > Everyone is welcomed to share any thoughts or knowledge which they > might have. > > > > Jai Guru ki jai!! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 It seems the best animal skin that could be used would be one where the animal died a natural death, and not a violent one, and not one where the animal was taken for the eating of it's flesh. It seems like that is the way yogis want to come by their animal skin which they use for sitting. Om Shanti ! Steve Connor <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote: peace hennycertain percent of our texts come from a very different time andplace. we are updating them as we address such lines, so to speak.at one time, there was no heat or a/c, different diseases were feared,etc. the role an animal skin blanket played was not as it is today.the best blanket is no blanket.steve --- In , "henny_v_i" <HvI@S...> wrote:> Dear Kalia,> > the verses about the seat are beyond my understanding. I am eagerto > learn what merit there is in sitting on a dead animal's skin. Isthe > animal symbolic of certain attributes like swiftness or courage? > > with love,> Henny> > > > --- In , Kali Kali > <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:> > Dear friends,> > > > The instructions on the seat continues -> > > > "By reciting while sitting upon a black deer skin brings the > attainment of wisdom, and upon a tiger skin, self-realization. Upon a > seat of kusha grass brings the attainment of wisdom, and upon a > blanket brings the attainment of all."> > > > > > Nanda, is there any discussion by Maa and/or Swamiji that you can > share with us regarding the seat?> > > > Everyone is welcomed to share any thoughts or knowledge whichthey > might have.> > > > Jai Guru ki jai!!> > > > > > Do You ?> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > Do You ?Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Kalia, I don't really have anything substantive to share, but something just came to my mind, two things, actually. The first is that I read that sitting on synthetics (wearing too) tends to be mentally irritating because they disturb the flow of pranic energy. The second is a story in which the asan has a place. I don't know what it means, just food for thought. I don't remember where the story comes from, but in condensed form, here it is: Swami Rama had been invited to a certain swami's ashram for a special yearly feast this swami performed every year. This swami had been blessed by Annapurna, and had the siddhi that She would produce food for him, so every year he would feed all the people who came on this day. Swami Rama brought a young tantric sadhu, whom he had met, with him. They walked for a long time before they reached the swami's ashram, and neither of them had had any food. When they arrived, there was such a large crowd of people that Swami Rama and the tantric sadhu got seperated. Swami Rama was well known, so he was soon taken into the presence of his host and treated with the greatest respect. The young tantric, on the other hand, was treated as just another visitor. He was given no food, dispite the long journey he had just completed, and despite having accompanied an honored guest. In fact, he was soon put to work guarding the shoes. When he asked for something to eat, he was rudely dismissed. After a while, this young tantric sadhu got fed-up. He went down to the river and got a small fish. He brought it back, sat on it, and began his worship. At that time, Swami Rama was in the company of his swami host and other honored guests. Around them were the many platters of food, ready to be served to all the people. Suddenly, they noticed a rotten smell coming from the food. It smelled like rotten fish. The swami prayed to Annapurna, but nothing happened. He became distraught, saying, "My siddhi is gone, and all the food is spoiled. What could have happened to cause this?" Swami Rama remembered he had come with someone, and asked, "Where is the young sadhu I arrived with?" The swami said, "I don't know who you mean. I though you arrived alone." Swami Rama then described the young tantric sadhu and asked that he be found and brought to him. He then asked that a portion of the food be brought to him. He took the bowl of food in his hands, brought it up to his heart, and closed his eyes. After a moment, he handed to bowl of food back to his host with instructions that a small amount be mixed with all the other food. Once this was done, all the food became pure again, and the feast went on as planned. When the young sadhu was found Swami Rama said, "That was not well done. I should beat you up for that." The sadhu told him what had happened, how he had not been offered so much as a piece of bread or cup of tea after walking all day, and had been treated bruskly and put to work, and Swami Rama replied, "You would not have died, but you would have deprived all of these people of their food." The young tantric considered what he had done, and why, and became ashamed. He took a vow to eat only leaves (for some months, I think, but it could have been for as long as three years), as pennance for misusing his siddhis. So, that's the story. The applicable part, is of course where he sat on the fish to spoil the food. I don't know what it means, but it's interesting. Jai Maa! Chris , Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote: > Dear friends, > > The instructions on the seat continues - > > "By reciting while sitting upon a black deer skin brings the attainment of wisdom, and upon a tiger skin, self-realization. Upon a seat of kusha grass brings the attainment of wisdom, and upon a blanket brings the attainment of all." > > > Nanda, is there any discussion by Maa and/or Swamiji that you can share with us regarding the seat? > > Everyone is welcomed to share any thoughts or knowledge which they might have. > > Jai Guru ki jai!! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Jai GuruChris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: Kalia,I don't really have anything substantive to share, but something justcame to my mind, two things, actually.The first is that I read that sitting on synthetics (wearing too)tends to be mentally irritating because they disturb the flow ofpranic energy.The second is a story in which the asan has a place. I don't know whatit means, just food for thought. I don't remember where the storycomes from, but in condensed form, here it is:Swami Rama had been invited to a certain swami's ashram for a specialyearly feast this swami performed every year. This swami had beenblessed by Annapurna, and had the siddhi that She would produce foodfor him, so every year he would feed all the people who came on this day.Swami Rama brought a young tantric sadhu, whom he had met, with him.They walked for a long time before they reached the swami's ashram,and neither of them had had any food. When they arrived, there wassuch a large crowd of people that Swami Rama and the tantric sadhu gotseperated. Swami Rama was well known, so he was soon taken into the presence ofhis host and treated with the greatest respect. The young tantric, onthe other hand, was treated as just another visitor. He was given nofood, dispite the long journey he had just completed, and despitehaving accompanied an honored guest. In fact, he was soon put to workguarding the shoes. When he asked for something to eat, he was rudelydismissed.After a while, this young tantric sadhu got fed-up. He went down tothe river and got a small fish. He brought it back, sat on it, andbegan his worship. At that time, Swami Rama was in the company of his swami host andother honored guests. Around them were the many platters of food,ready to be served to all the people. Suddenly, they noticed a rotten smell coming from the food. It smelledlike rotten fish. The swami prayed to Annapurna, but nothing happened.He became distraught, saying, "My siddhi is gone, and all the food isspoiled. What could have happened to cause this?"Swami Rama remembered he had come with someone, and asked, "Where isthe young sadhu I arrived with?"The swami said, "I don't know who you mean. I though you arrived alone."Swami Rama then described the young tantric sadhu and asked that he befound and brought to him. He then asked that a portion of the food bebrought to him. He took the bowl of food in his hands, brought it upto his heart, and closed his eyes. After a moment, he handed to bowlof food back to his host with instructions that a small amount bemixed with all the other food.Once this was done, all the food became pure again, and the feast wenton as planned.When the young sadhu was found Swami Rama said, "That was not welldone. I should beat you up for that." The sadhu told him what hadhappened, how he had not been offered so much as a piece of bread orcup of tea after walking all day, and had been treated bruskly and putto work, and Swami Rama replied, "You would not have died, but youwould have deprived all of these people of their food."The young tantric considered what he had done, and why, and becameashamed. He took a vow to eat only leaves (for some months, I think,but it could have been for as long as three years), as pennance formisusing his siddhis.So, that's the story. The applicable part, is of course where he saton the fish to spoil the food. I don't know what it means, but it'sinteresting.Jai Maa!Chris, Kali Kali<kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:> Dear friends,> > The instructions on the seat continues -> > "By reciting while sitting upon a black deer skin brings theattainment of wisdom, and upon a tiger skin, self-realization. Upon aseat of kusha grass brings the attainment of wisdom, and upon ablanket brings the attainment of all."> > > Nanda, is there any discussion by Maa and/or Swamiji that you canshare with us regarding the seat?> > Everyone is welcomed to share any thoughts or knowledge which theymight have.> > Jai Guru ki jai!!> > > > > Do You ?Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 OM NAMAH SIVAYA sounds like the Sadhu had a case of King/baby syndrome. he thought he was a king and when people didn't treat him like one he acted like a baby. instead of giving more than you take, he took if you didn't give. JAI MA , Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote: > Thanks Chris. Stories of those gone before are always welcomed and enjoyed. Maybe one of our many family and friends will shed some light on its meaning. > > Jai Guru > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote: > Kalia, > > I don't really have anything substantive to share, but something just > came to my mind, two things, actually. > > The first is that I read that sitting on synthetics (wearing too) > tends to be mentally irritating because they disturb the flow of > pranic energy. > > The second is a story in which the asan has a place. I don't know what > it means, just food for thought. I don't remember where the story > comes from, but in condensed form, here it is: > > Swami Rama had been invited to a certain swami's ashram for a special > yearly feast this swami performed every year. This swami had been > blessed by Annapurna, and had the siddhi that She would produce food > for him, so every year he would feed all the people who came on this day. > > Swami Rama brought a young tantric sadhu, whom he had met, with him. > They walked for a long time before they reached the swami's ashram, > and neither of them had had any food. When they arrived, there was > such a large crowd of people that Swami Rama and the tantric sadhu got > seperated. > > Swami Rama was well known, so he was soon taken into the presence of > his host and treated with the greatest respect. The young tantric, on > the other hand, was treated as just another visitor. He was given no > food, dispite the long journey he had just completed, and despite > having accompanied an honored guest. In fact, he was soon put to work > guarding the shoes. When he asked for something to eat, he was rudely > dismissed. > > After a while, this young tantric sadhu got fed-up. He went down to > the river and got a small fish. He brought it back, sat on it, and > began his worship. > > At that time, Swami Rama was in the company of his swami host and > other honored guests. Around them were the many platters of food, > ready to be served to all the people. > > Suddenly, they noticed a rotten smell coming from the food. It smelled > like rotten fish. The swami prayed to Annapurna, but nothing happened. > He became distraught, saying, "My siddhi is gone, and all the food is > spoiled. What could have happened to cause this?" > > Swami Rama remembered he had come with someone, and asked, "Where is > the young sadhu I arrived with?" > > The swami said, "I don't know who you mean. I though you arrived alone." > > Swami Rama then described the young tantric sadhu and asked that he be > found and brought to him. He then asked that a portion of the food be > brought to him. He took the bowl of food in his hands, brought it up > to his heart, and closed his eyes. After a moment, he handed to bowl > of food back to his host with instructions that a small amount be > mixed with all the other food. > > Once this was done, all the food became pure again, and the feast went > on as planned. > > When the young sadhu was found Swami Rama said, "That was not well > done. I should beat you up for that." The sadhu told him what had > happened, how he had not been offered so much as a piece of bread or > cup of tea after walking all day, and had been treated bruskly and put > to work, and Swami Rama replied, "You would not have died, but you > would have deprived all of these people of their food." > > The young tantric considered what he had done, and why, and became > ashamed. He took a vow to eat only leaves (for some months, I think, > but it could have been for as long as three years), as pennance for > misusing his siddhis. > > So, that's the story. The applicable part, is of course where he sat > on the fish to spoil the food. I don't know what it means, but it's > interesting. > > > Jai Maa! > Chris > > , Kali Kali > <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > The instructions on the seat continues - > > > > "By reciting while sitting upon a black deer skin brings the > attainment of wisdom, and upon a tiger skin, self-realization. Upon a > seat of kusha grass brings the attainment of wisdom, and upon a > blanket brings the attainment of all." > > > > > > Nanda, is there any discussion by Maa and/or Swamiji that you can > share with us regarding the seat? > > > > Everyone is welcomed to share any thoughts or knowledge which they > might have. > > > > Jai Guru ki jai!! > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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