Guru Gita Vs 159 - ..... Multitude of the Gods and all places of pilgrimage will inhabit

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Dear Kalia and all,

 

I'm having some problems with these verses, reflecting some problems

I'm having trying to reconcile the 'Guru principle' and the Guru in

bodily form. It may be totally beside the point here, but I would like

to tell you because it gives me a headache and perhaps someone can

help.

 

My first reaction to verse 158 and 159 was that consistency and

stability are important in this verse and in the previous one (see the

use of the words 'always' and 'maintain'). We can 'become' the Guru

precisely because we already 'are' the Guru, but we keep forgetting

(or don't believe it in the first place). To 'become' the Guru, then,

is to finally be our Self: knowing, from experience, that our true

Self is the Highest Divinity and living this truth consistently. How

can this not mean the establishment of peace, truth and purity in our

life, which is all life. That's the theory.

 

Now, I understand that there are enlightened beings (for want of a

better term), who know who they truly are all the time (or at least

most of the time), and thus they can be an example for us of

consistency and stability in living the truth. And the experience of

their peace, truth and purity (which is also the peace, truth and

purity we have hidden in ourselves under the 'dirt of worldy objects

and relationships) can help us to 'resonate' more and remember.

 

The Guru-principle can thus 'work through' embodied beings (or the

Guru-principle maintains a physical form) in order to teach us truth.

And here is where I get confused: with Shree Maa and Swamiji, we have

two physical forms, embodying the same principle. So when we speak of

'our guru', what are we speaking about? To me, that 'guru' is the

light I experience in me, a light I also see in Swamiji and Shree Maa

and because their light is unobscured, their light can lead me to

dis-cover more that light-in-me. Now, because I think of them in terms

of inner light, the actual bodily forms get blurred. In meditation, I

see Shree Maa sometimes as Shiva, sometimes as Mother and Swamiji

sometimes as Mother, sometimes as Shiva, and sometimes they merge into

each other as 'just light'. So the reality of the bodily form, the

presence of a person you experience when you actually meet someone, is

not there. When I hear about Swamiji liking egg-plant, for instance,

that seems to be an entirely different 'entity' than the

Shree-Swami-Maa-ji I think of as the Guru. And in practical terms it

is confusing too: how can you address a two-in-one-person, who do you

speak to? I know Swamiji answers our questions, but Shree Maa is there

automatically as well as I read the answer. So if someone would ask me

'who do you consider to be your guru?' I honestly wouldn't know what

to say. There seem to be two, but there is only one to me, which is

also the light in me. So your question of how the Guru's attitude has

impacted your life leads me to ask 'which guru'?

 

puzzled,

Henny

 

 

 

, Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati@y.

...> wrote:

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> Here is our verse for today, 27 June -

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> 159. Wherever he resides, he maintains his own attitude, completely

pure within and without. There (in his presence) the multitude of, the

Gods and all places of pilgrimage will inhabit.

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> Comment: This verse today to reminds me first of Pramahansa

Ramakrishna who did everything straight from the heart and with great

enthusiasm. He wasted no time or energy on earthly pursuits but

showered all his love and energy on the Divine, He was the same always

no matter where he was or in whose company, He maintained truth,

simplicity, humility and an undying love for Mother. He was ever in

Divine Bliss. "O Mother." he would pray day and night. "I have taken

refuge in you. Teach me what to do or say. Thy will is paramount

everywhere and is for the benefit of Thy children. Merge my ego in Thy

will and make me Thy instrument."

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> Also, my Gurujis who to me represents -Truth, peace, humility,

simplicity, bliss. It is said that whatever we perceive to be outside

of the body is also within, the rivers, the seas. The mandir reflects

the attitude of Gurujis, there is always Peace and serenity in that

abode. The bodily form, the earthly residence are all the same

humble, at one with nature, peaceful and filled with the bliss of

being. To step into Shree Maa Way is to step into the abode of the

Gods and Goddesses.

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> Is there anything that you can share with us on this?

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> How has your Guru's attitude impacted on your life?

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> There is lots of knowledge being gained here. How are you using the

knowledge to grow in the path of the Guru?

>

> Is there any thing special that you might like to share?

>

>

>

> Kalia

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All the places of pilgrimage reside in the abode of

the respected Guru! The abode of Guru is the supreme

place of pilgrimage. All Gods and other places of

pilgrimage are to be found there.

 

Where is the abode? In the heart which is full of love

and devotion to the Guru's teaching!!! In the cave of

the heart!

 

The bhava of purity which resides in the Guru's abode

is all encompassing, and so, the heart of the disciple

becomes a place of complete purity. May we all

enshrine the Guru within the heart of devotion!!

 

Jai Maa Jai Swami Ji !!!

 

--- Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati wrote:

>

> Here is our verse for today, 27 June -

>

>

>

> 159. Wherever he resides, he maintains his own

> attitude, completely pure within and without. There

> (in his presence) the multitude of, the Gods and all

> places of pilgrimage will inhabit.

>

>

>

> Comment: This verse today to reminds me first of

> Pramahansa Ramakrishna who did everything straight

> from the heart and with great enthusiasm. He wasted

> no time or energy on earthly pursuits but showered

> all his love and energy on the Divine, He was the

> same always no matter where he was or in whose

> company, He maintained truth, simplicity, humility

> and an undying love for Mother. He was ever in

> Divine Bliss. "O Mother." he would pray day and

> night. "I have taken refuge in you. Teach me what to

> do or say. Thy will is paramount everywhere and is

> for the benefit of Thy children. Merge my ego in Thy

> will and make me Thy instrument."

>

>

>

> Also, my Gurujis who to me represents -Truth,

> peace, humility, simplicity, bliss. It is said that

> whatever we perceive to be outside of the body is

> also within, the rivers, the seas. The mandir

> reflects the attitude of Gurujis, there is always

> Peace and serenity in that abode. The bodily form,

> the earthly residence are all the same humble, at

> one with nature, peaceful and filled with the bliss

> of being. To step into Shree Maa Way is to step

> into the abode of the Gods and Goddesses.

>

>

>

> Is there anything that you can share with us on

> this?

>

> How has your Guru's attitude impacted on your life?

>

>

> There is lots of knowledge being gained here. How

> are you using the knowledge to grow in the path of

> the Guru?

>

> Is there any thing special that you might like to

> share?

>

>

>

> Kalia

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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