Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 , Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote: "Mother must know that we really want HER, and when She is pleased ….. No Mind, No Desire, No Self, only SAT-CHI-ANANDA" Jai Maa, dear sister Kalia! And we please Her with the sincerity of our devotion. What do we really want...Her or our little desires? Oh Maa, give us pure devotion for Your Lotus Feet! Don't hypnotize us with Your maya! > > > > Very well said Steve, this is beautiful. > > > > In reading your post I was thinking about self deprecation and self conceit, the two which hung around after the defeat of the ego. Ok, through love, devotion and surrender, we are at that place of truth, that place of bliss, the final step to that purity of consciousness – I am That. The Goddess of Knowledge speaks through our very being and the soul is in constant japa but these two (self conceit and self deprecation) are making one last desperate appeal to the bit of mind left - Is this the right decision? What if? Also thought of pride and arrogance. You are the greatest, you do not need this type of thing. > > > > Our determination increases, we go to the sand banks of the river and there, understanding that this is our only true choice, we cry like never before to Mother, "Please take my hand Mother, and show me the way, I don't know this path very well, I fully rely on you, I trust you with all of my heart, beyond you I know of no one else". > > > > Mother must know that we really want HER, and when She is pleased ….. No Mind, No Desire, No Self, only SAT-CHI-ANANDA > > > > Thanks you. > > > > Pranams. > > > Steve Connor <sconnor@a...> wrote:doubt. what an interesting thing. it is perhaps anything we have > unresolved about the truth. am i doing the right thing. is there still > some concern about this or that. we visit the undiff. but are not yet > residing there 100%. > > unless we endure an extreme tapas we will have doubts, as we move > from mind-state to mind-state. hmmmm .... less mind, more heart, less > mind, more heart ... the machine, the chemistry, the network of > feelings, thoughts, all that we are living inside, not blasting > through to be shining in god's face and smiling and serving like > hanuman. we will, we will, to be sure. each grain of doubt grinds this > massive stone we are trying to turn. turn turn turn oh mind!!!!!!!!!! > > each grain of sand on the beach, that is how many doubts we have. > every fear, every anger, it is all doubt we are one. > > the magnitude of the task has to affect us so that we return to > puja/meditation over and over, increasing our time like Swamiji said, > and as you said b4, crying to Maa ... that is the mood, take away > these doubts that are burning me mother, i will sit here day and night > like the business man in the chandi ... i pray i pray remove these > doubts, the doubts that stretch to the horizon line and disappear > into infinity. > > > , "Chris Kirner" > <chriskirner1956> wrote: > > Swamiji, > > > > This verse appears to be speaking of one who is finally letting go > of > > the container of individuality and merging into the > undifferentiated. > > This verse suggests the process of doing so involves letting go of > > doubts. I have no point of reference for this. It seems odd to me > that > > there would be doubts of any kind left at that stage. Is this the > > major obstacle at this stage? Could you explain a little bit? > > > > Jai Maa! > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > 165. Removing all doubts, he becomes liberated, oh Parvati. He > > attains both enjoyment of the fruits of all action and liberation, > > otherwise known as self-realization, and Sarasvati resides on his > tongue. > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Jai MuktiMaamuktimaa <muktimaa (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: , Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:"Mother must know that we really want HER, and when She is pleased ….. No Mind, No Desire, No Self, only SAT-CHI-ANANDA"Jai Maa, dear sister Kalia!And we please Her with the sincerity of our devotion. What do we really want...Her or our little desires? Oh Maa, give us pure devotion for Your Lotus Feet! Don't hypnotize us with Your maya!> > > > Very well said Steve, this is beautiful.> > > > In reading your post I was thinking about self deprecation and self conceit, the two which hung around after the defeat of the ego. Ok, through love, devotion and surrender, we are at that place of truth, that place of bliss, the final step to that purity of consciousness – I am That. The Goddess of Knowledge speaks through our very being and the soul is in constant japa but these two (self conceit and self deprecation) are making one last desperate appeal to the bit of mind left - Is this the right decision? What if? Also thought of pride and arrogance. You are the greatest, you do not need this type of thing. > > > > Our determination increases, we go to the sand banks of the river and there, understanding that this is our only true choice, we cry like never before to Mother, "Please take my hand Mother, and show me the way, I don't know this path very well, I fully rely on you, I trust you with all of my heart, beyond you I know of no one else". > > > > Mother must know that we really want HER, and when She is pleased ….. No Mind, No Desire, No Self, only SAT-CHI-ANANDA > > > > Thanks you.> > > > Pranams.> > > Steve Connor <sconnor@a...> wrote:doubt. what an interesting thing. it is perhaps anything we have> unresolved about the truth. am i doing the right thing. is there still> some concern about this or that. we visit the undiff. but are not yet> residing there 100%.> > unless we endure an extreme tapas we will have doubts, as we move> from mind-state to mind-state. hmmmm .... less mind, more heart, less> mind, more heart ... the machine, the chemistry, the network of> feelings, thoughts, all that we are living inside, not blasting> through to be shining in god's face and smiling and serving like> hanuman. we will, we will, to be sure. each grain of doubt grinds this> massive stone we are trying to turn. turn turn turn oh mind!!!!!!!!!!> > each grain of sand on the beach, that is how many doubts we have.> every fear, every anger, it is all doubt we are one.> > the magnitude of the task has to affect us so that we return to> puja/meditation over and over, increasing our time like Swamiji said,> and as you said b4, crying to Maa ... that is the mood, take away> these doubts that are burning me mother, i will sit here day and night> like the business man in the chandi ... i pray i pray remove these> doubts, the doubts that stretch to the horizon line and disappear> into infinity.> > > , "Chris Kirner"> <chriskirner1956> wrote:> > Swamiji,> > > > This verse appears to be speaking of one who is finally letting go> of> > the container of individuality and merging into the> undifferentiated.> > This verse suggests the process of doing so involves letting go of> > doubts. I have no point of reference for this. It seems odd to me> that> > there would be doubts of any kind left at that stage. Is this the> > major obstacle at this stage? Could you explain a little bit?> > > > Jai Maa!> > Chris> > > > > > > > > > > 165. Removing all doubts, he becomes liberated, oh Parvati. He> > attains both enjoyment of the fruits of all action and liberation,> > otherwise known as self-realization, and Sarasvati resides on his> tongue.> > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > Do You ?Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Jai Guru ki jai! What great bhav indeed Raj, seeing as to how Mother works Her purpose out. Here it is as though Mother has given us (all of us) this opportunity, just like the king and the businessman in the Chandi, to lead each other to this place of great sacrifice. We can either continue on this path of knowledge, expecting no reward, until such time as She sees it fit to grant the boon of union or we can return to the full state of ignorance. May Mother grant us the strength of will to continue on with that firm determination of Shiva. With much love, Kalia Steve Connor <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> wrote: Blessings, blessings, Kali Kali.What is the use of this bhav except to bring us closer and closer andstrengthen this tapas and sadhana? We are looking at a wall that ishigher than high. That is the separation of one thought. The Guru sitson the other side of this bank. We must make great efforts to reachthis other side.An aside. We know we are "already" one. This is a given, this is abasic understanding. And yet, this overcoming and tapas, really, thissometimes very unpleasant encounter with doubt we PREFER -- as theChandi advocates devotees to not only resist, but DEFEAT the asuras.For this we need both inspiration and commitment ... practice, overand over.JAI MAAA what a glorious opportunity this Eternal Way is!--- In , Kali Kali<kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:> > > > Very well said Steve, this is beautiful.> > > > In reading your post I was thinking about self deprecation and selfconceit, the two which hung around after the defeat of the ego. Ok,through love, devotion and surrender, we are at that place of truth,that place of bliss, the final step to that purity of consciousness–I am That. The Goddess of Knowledge speaks through our very being andthe soul is in constant japa but these two (self conceit and selfdeprecation) are making one last desperate appeal to the bit of mindleft - Is this the right decision? What if? Also thought of pride andarrogance. You are the greatest, you do not need this type of thing.> > > > Our determination increases, we go to the sand banks of the riverand there, understanding that this is our only true choice, we crylike never before to Mother, "Please take my hand Mother, andshow methe way, I don't know this path very well, I fully rely on you, Itrust you with all of my heart, beyond you I know of no oneelse". > > > > Mother must know that we really want HER, and when She is pleased….. No Mind, No Desire, No Self, only SAT-CHI-ANANDA > > > > Thanks you.> > > > Pranams.> > > Steve Connor <sconnor@a...> wrote:doubt. what an interesting thing.it is perhaps anything we have> unresolved about the truth. am i doing the right thing. is therestill> some concern about this or that. we visit the undiff. but are notyet> residing there 100%.> > unless we endure an extreme tapas we will have doubts, as we move> from mind-state to mind-state. hmmmm .... less mind, more heart,less> mind, more heart ... the machine, the chemistry, the network of> feelings, thoughts, all that we are living inside, not blasting> through to be shining in god's face and smiling and serving like> hanuman. we will, we will, to be sure. each grain of doubt grindsthis> massive stone we are trying to turn. turn turn turn ohmind!!!!!!!!!!> > each grain of sand on the beach, that is how many doubts we have.> every fear, every anger, it is all doubt we are one.> > the magnitude of the task has to affect us so that we return to> puja/meditation over and over, increasing our time like Swamijisaid,> and as you said b4, crying to Maa ... that is the mood, take away> these doubts that are burning me mother, i will sit here day andnight> like the business man in the chandi ... i pray i pray remove these> doubts, the doubts that stretch to the horizon line and disappear> into infinity.> > > , "Chris Kirner"> <chriskirner1956> wrote:> > Swamiji,> > > > This verse appears to be speaking of one who is finally letting go> of> > the container of individuality and merging into the> undifferentiated.> > This verse suggests the process of doing so involves letting go of> > doubts. I have no point of reference for this. It seems odd to me> that> > there would be doubts of any kind left at that stage. Is this the> > major obstacle at this stage? Could you explain a little bit?> > > > Jai Maa!> > Chris> > > > > > > > > > > 165. Removing all doubts, he becomes liberated, oh Parvati. He> > attains both enjoyment of the fruits of all action and liberation,> > otherwise known as self-realization, and Sarasvati resides on his> tongue.> > > > > > > > ! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms ofService. > > > > > > > > > > > Do You ?Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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