Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 another interpretation could be, the area 'others do not see' is your mind. do we try to keep that clean. peace. , Kala Chandra <kalachandra2003> wrote: > Dear Kali and Chris > In fact in the book The Sadhu Sahib is a story about this. Swmiji cleaned the place . This was his puja in the Devaloka Ashram. Jai Swamiji! Jai Maa! > With love Kalachandra > > Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati> escreveu: > > > > Dear Chris, > > > > While I agree with your explanation, I think the verse is also actually saying that by reciting in a confused place, one receives confused fruit and in this sense is referring to our surroundings. > > > > In observng Gurujis, they always, at all times keep their areas of worship clean and tidy. After every puja, Maa and Swamiji put away their asans and all articles used in worship in a very tidy manner. In many of the stories on Swamiji's journey to That place, there is always reference to personal hygiene and preparation of the area and utensils for worship. > > > > Once I visited the Mandir and after satsangha, Maa was sitting talking to Her children and in making the point of keeping your (generalizing here) surrounding clean for the invited guest, She said, we all make the areas that can be seen tidy but what about where we think others would not see? Are your cupboards tidy? The words echoed in my mind like a bell, I sat up and held my head down at one go, for I had arrived at the Mandir only the day before and prior to leaving house, had cleaned from top to bottom of almost the entire house only the food and bathroom cupboards were left for my return. Since then I never, visit Maa without ensuring that my cupboards too are tidy. > > > > Journey to me in this sense also signifies the path, constant repetition. > > > > Jai Maa! > > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote: > > Kalia, > > For the longest time this verse made no sense whatsoever to me. On the > one hand, it says that by reciting in a confused place, one receives > confused fruit, which seems straightforward until one gets to the rest > of the verse which describes three potentially confusing situations, > and then says to recite in any limitation. The verse seems to > contradict itself. > > Then I realized, as I discussed in my post on the previous verse, that > the confusion resides only in the reciter. No place is inherently > confusing. Even the confusion of a battle is a fit place for > recitation, without confusion. > > So, what this verse is really telling us is to cultivate > nonattachment. View the world around you, and your circumstances, with > equanimity, and with a one-pointed mind, recite the Guru Gita. Without > purity of mind and intention, the recitation will not produce pure fruit. > > Jai Maa! > Chris > > > > > , Kali Kali > <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote: > > 176. By performing recitation in a confused place, one attains the > fruit of confused actions. Recite the Guru Gita in a journey, in a > battle, in a dilemma, or any limitation. > > > > Here we are again being told to recite this song in all cirmcumstances. > > > > Kalia > > > > > > > > > > > Beliefs of hinduism Different religions beliefs Hinduism religion > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Messenger > http://br.download./messenger/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Thanks for your thoughts, what you have said is very true but I did not think of the internal aspect. We wash the outer body with soap and water to rid of the dirt and grime, and the internals with the Guru Gita to rid of the clutter in the cupboards be it thoughts, food or desires. Jai Guru! ecjensen_us <ecjensen_us > wrote: OM NAMAH SIVAYAKalia, thank you for this story of Maa. it made me think that maybe Her advice is not limited to our external surroundings. but that maybe keeping our surroundings clean is also a reference to ourSelves. for example, if our actions and words are the 'places' seen, then our thoughts would be the 'places' not seen by others. and their significance is obvious. and while our personal hygiene is important like Swamiji said, maybe the 'place' not seen is the inside, the foods we put into our bodies. not eating foods with preservatives, frozen foods, left-overs, foods imported from great distances, etc. basically eating according to ayurvedic principles, to the best of our ability anyway. after all She is THE invited guest, if you know what i mean. physically and on all other levels.you know like, as you think so you become and you are what you eat.JAI MAA, Kali Kali <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:> > > > Dear Chris,> > > > While I agree with your explanation, I think the verse is also actually saying that by reciting in a confused place, one receives confused fruit and in this sense is referring to our surroundings. > > > > In observng Gurujis, they always, at all times keep their areas of worship clean and tidy. After every puja, Maa and Swamiji put away their asans and all articles used in worship in a very tidy manner. In many of the stories on Swamiji's journey to That place, there is always reference to personal hygiene and preparation of the area and utensils for worship. > > > > Once I visited the Mandir and after satsangha, Maa was sitting talking to Her children and in making the point of keeping your (generalizing here) surrounding clean for the invited guest, She said, we all make the areas that can be seen tidy but what about where we think others would not see? Are your cupboards tidy? The words echoed in my mind like a bell, I sat up and held my head down at one go, for I had arrived at the Mandir only the day before and prior to leaving house, had cleaned from top to bottom of almost the entire house only the food and bathroom cupboards were left for my return. Since then I never, visit Maa without ensuring that my cupboards too are tidy.> > > > Journey to me in this sense also signifies the path, constant repetition.> > > > Jai Maa!> > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote:> > Kalia,> > For the longest time this verse made no sense whatsoever to me. On the> one hand, it says that by reciting in a confused place, one receives> confused fruit, which seems straightforward until one gets to the rest> of the verse which describes three potentially confusing situations,> and then says to recite in any limitation. The verse seems to> contradict itself.> > Then I realized, as I discussed in my post on the previous verse, that> the confusion resides only in the reciter. No place is inherently> confusing. Even the confusion of a battle is a fit place for> recitation, without confusion.> > So, what this verse is really telling us is to cultivate> nonattachment. View the world around you, and your circumstances, with> equanimity, and with a one-pointed mind, recite the Guru Gita. Without> purity of mind and intention, the recitation will not produce pure fruit.> > Jai Maa!> Chris> > > > > , Kali Kali> <kaliananda_saraswati> wrote:> > 176. By performing recitation in a confused place, one attains the> fruit of confused actions. Recite the Guru Gita in a journey, in a> battle, in a dilemma, or any limitation.> > > > Here we are again being told to recite this song in all cirmcumstances.> > > > Kalia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beliefs of hinduism Different religions beliefs Hinduism religion > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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