wanted to share this by Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami

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Conflicts with Other People

 

Good interpersonal relationships help the meditator a great deal, and

meditation helps keep those relations harmonious. When we get along

nicely with others, meditation becomes easy. If we have problems with

other people, if we argue or disagree mentally and verbally, we must

work exceedingly diligently in order to regain the subtlety of

meditation. Poor interpersonal relationships are one of the biggest

barriers, for they antagonize awareness, causing it to flow through

the instinctive and intellectual forces. This puts stress and strain

on the nerve system and closes inner doors to superconsciousness.

 

If we cannot get along with our fellow man whom we watch closely,

observing the expressions on his face and the inflections of his

voice, how will we ever get along with the forces of the subconscious,

which we cannot see, or the refined superconscious areas of the inner

mind, when we face them in meditation? Obviously, we must conquer and

harmonize all our relationships--not by working to change the other

person, but by working with that other person within ourself, for we

are only seeing in him what is in us. He becomes a mirror. We cannot

allow the unraveling of the relationship by attempted outer

manipulation, discussion or analysis to become a barrier to deeper

meditation. Instead, we must internalize everything that needs change,

work within ourselves and leave other people out of it. This helps to

smooth interpersonal relationships, and as these relationships

improve, so does our ability to meditate.

 

Our nerve system is just like a harp. It can be played by other

people. They can cause many tones to be heard in our nerve system. All

styles of music can be played on a harp, but no matter what kind of

music is played, the harp remains the same. People can do all sorts of

things to our nervous system, and make patterns of tone and color

appear. This does not hurt the nervous system. It, like the harp,

remains the same. The same nervous system can be played by our

superconscious or by our passions. We can experience beautiful

knowledge from within, which is the outgrowth of good meditation

abilities, or experience a mental argument with another person. All

tones are played at different times through the same nervous system.

We want our nervous system to be played from the inside out through

the beautiful rhythm of superconsciousness. This is bliss. We do not

want to allow other people to affect our nerve system in a negative

way, only in a positive way. That is why it is imperative for those on

the path to be in good company.

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

if funny(not haha but strange) the subconscious. there are things

out(or in) there that we don't even really realize till someone

points them out or reflects them to us in some way. then they are

everywhere. kind of like if you get a new car or new shoes or

something. you may never have noticed them before. then after you

buy it, it seems like you see them everywhere. awareness i guess.

 

JAI MA

 

, "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

wrote:

> Conflicts with Other People

>

> Good interpersonal relationships help the meditator a great deal,

and

> meditation helps keep those relations harmonious. When we get along

> nicely with others, meditation becomes easy. If we have problems

with

> other people, if we argue or disagree mentally and verbally, we

must

> work exceedingly diligently in order to regain the subtlety of

> meditation. Poor interpersonal relationships are one of the biggest

> barriers, for they antagonize awareness, causing it to flow through

> the instinctive and intellectual forces. This puts stress and

strain

> on the nerve system and closes inner doors to superconsciousness.

>

> If we cannot get along with our fellow man whom we watch closely,

> observing the expressions on his face and the inflections of his

> voice, how will we ever get along with the forces of the

subconscious,

> which we cannot see, or the refined superconscious areas of the

inner

> mind, when we face them in meditation? Obviously, we must conquer

and

> harmonize all our relationships--not by working to change the other

> person, but by working with that other person within ourself, for

we

> are only seeing in him what is in us. He becomes a mirror. We

cannot

> allow the unraveling of the relationship by attempted outer

> manipulation, discussion or analysis to become a barrier to deeper

> meditation. Instead, we must internalize everything that needs

change,

> work within ourselves and leave other people out of it. This helps

to

> smooth interpersonal relationships, and as these relationships

> improve, so does our ability to meditate.

>

> Our nerve system is just like a harp. It can be played by other

> people. They can cause many tones to be heard in our nerve system.

All

> styles of music can be played on a harp, but no matter what kind of

> music is played, the harp remains the same. People can do all

sorts of

> things to our nervous system, and make patterns of tone and color

> appear. This does not hurt the nervous system. It, like the harp,

> remains the same. The same nervous system can be played by our

> superconscious or by our passions. We can experience beautiful

> knowledge from within, which is the outgrowth of good meditation

> abilities, or experience a mental argument with another person. All

> tones are played at different times through the same nervous

system.

> We want our nervous system to be played from the inside out through

> the beautiful rhythm of superconsciousness. This is bliss. We do

not

> want to allow other people to affect our nerve system in a negative

> way, only in a positive way. That is why it is imperative for

those on

> the path to be in good company.

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i thought so too, he gave me another understanding of right

association ...

 

, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

wrote:

> OM NAMAH SIVAYA

>

> if funny(not haha but strange) the subconscious. there are things

> out(or in) there that we don't even really realize till someone

> points them out or reflects them to us in some way. then they are

> everywhere. kind of like if you get a new car or new shoes or

> something. you may never have noticed them before. then after you

> buy it, it seems like you see them everywhere. awareness i guess.

>

> JAI MA

>

> , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

> wrote:

> > Conflicts with Other People

> >

> > Good interpersonal relationships help the meditator a great deal,

> and

> > meditation helps keep those relations harmonious. When we get

along

> > nicely with others, meditation becomes easy. If we have problems

> with

> > other people, if we argue or disagree mentally and verbally, we

> must

> > work exceedingly diligently in order to regain the subtlety of

> > meditation. Poor interpersonal relationships are one of the

biggest

> > barriers, for they antagonize awareness, causing it to flow

through

> > the instinctive and intellectual forces. This puts stress and

> strain

> > on the nerve system and closes inner doors to superconsciousness.

> >

> > If we cannot get along with our fellow man whom we watch closely,

> > observing the expressions on his face and the inflections of his

> > voice, how will we ever get along with the forces of the

> subconscious,

> > which we cannot see, or the refined superconscious areas of the

> inner

> > mind, when we face them in meditation? Obviously, we must conquer

> and

> > harmonize all our relationships--not by working to change the

other

> > person, but by working with that other person within ourself, for

> we

> > are only seeing in him what is in us. He becomes a mirror. We

> cannot

> > allow the unraveling of the relationship by attempted outer

> > manipulation, discussion or analysis to become a barrier to deeper

> > meditation. Instead, we must internalize everything that needs

> change,

> > work within ourselves and leave other people out of it. This

helps

> to

> > smooth interpersonal relationships, and as these relationships

> > improve, so does our ability to meditate.

> >

> > Our nerve system is just like a harp. It can be played by other

> > people. They can cause many tones to be heard in our nerve

system.

> All

> > styles of music can be played on a harp, but no matter what kind

of

> > music is played, the harp remains the same. People can do all

> sorts of

> > things to our nervous system, and make patterns of tone and color

> > appear. This does not hurt the nervous system. It, like the harp,

> > remains the same. The same nervous system can be played by our

> > superconscious or by our passions. We can experience beautiful

> > knowledge from within, which is the outgrowth of good meditation

> > abilities, or experience a mental argument with another person.

All

> > tones are played at different times through the same nervous

> system.

> > We want our nervous system to be played from the inside out

through

> > the beautiful rhythm of superconsciousness. This is bliss. We do

> not

> > want to allow other people to affect our nerve system in a

negative

> > way, only in a positive way. That is why it is imperative for

> those on

> > the path to be in good company.