Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 we are in a strange time but maybe all times are strange. i asked swamiji once about becoming a hindu, and he was not keen on it the way subramuniyaswami was. i am not saying either is right/wrong. what i notice is this: even though swamiji and maa have a great knowledge or their spiritual culture, down to all sorts of details, they never seem to forget devotion is number one. mind does what in relation to the world? it actually creates it, or IS it. so it is natural that when we think, we eventually manifest. we in in a process of cultural transition. we do not know the outcome. but we are aware: my name does not mean so much to me [maybe.] or, this clothing makes no sense, i wish for some unbroken cloth, what is the point of this tie, what does this garment promote as an ideal? transition, this is all manifestation, harmonize ourselves, all will evolve, the most important thing is to evolve the inner life continuously. if we look at history we do see as the guru-teachings cross human boundaries, the outer manifestation will change. think of buddhism crossing into japan to become zen, or the guru who went from china and india to tibet. in these cases, the spirit manifested into something in some ways even more beautiful, or equally meaningful, as the original transmission. jai maa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...> "what i notice is this: even though swamiji and maa have a great knowledge of their spiritual culture, down to all sorts of details, they never seem to forget DEVOTION IS NUMBER ONE." Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Om Sri Gurave Namaha! muktimaa wrote: > we are in a strange time but maybe all times are strange. > > i asked swamiji once about becoming a hindu, and he was not keen on it > the way subramuniyaswami was. i am not saying either is right/wrong. > > what i notice is this: even though swamiji and maa have a great > knowledge or their spiritual culture, down to all sorts of details, > they never seem to forget devotion is number one. > > mind does what in relation to the world? it actually creates it, or IS > it. so it is natural that when we think, we eventually manifest. > > we in in a process of cultural transition. we do not know the outcome. > but we are aware: my name does not mean so much to me [maybe.] or, > this clothing makes no sense, i wish for some unbroken cloth, what is > the point of this tie, what does this garment promote as an ideal? > > transition, this is all manifestation, harmonize ourselves, all will > evolve, the most important thing is to evolve the inner life > continuously. > > if we look at history we do see as the guru-teachings cross human > boundaries, the outer manifestation will change. think of buddhism > crossing into japan to become zen, or the guru who went from china and > india to tibet. in these cases, the spirit manifested into something > in some ways even more beautiful, or equally meaningful, as the > original transmission. > > jai maa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Steve, I like it! Another way to put it is: stop worrying about having a name for everything and just let everything be. Shree Maa has not given me a new name and that's mainly because I don't feel I need one. My name is what mind calls these bodies moving through this experience, it is not REALLY WHO I AM. Brian is a label for this experience. You can see it as a book title, but it does not really express the book at all. In order to be understood the book must be read. You can't know Brian, but you can know his experience. The funny thing is: Shree Maa and Swamiji have Sanskritified my name, pronouncing and even writing it in Sanskrit. They pronounce it Brah-Yan. Names are only so good as they identify a piece or perspective of God. We can say, "I love Ramakrishna" and we know who that is. Truly the name is just a sign post pointing to a manifested devotion that we all relate to. The signpost is not important, it is the diety that the signpost points to which is important. There is a ritual at the Temple that I have been a part of a couple of times where Maa presents clothes to the male devotees. These clothes are special because they are blessed by Maa, right? Actually, I am blessed by receiving them from Maa. It is the act of receiving them that is special, not the clothes themselves. Its like my Guru says, "The mantra is the energy of God, once you absorb the energy, the mantra is not needed anymore and will drop away." The blessings are real, the clothes are not. I try to accept the blessings and let the clothing go. Not that I don't wear the clothes and remember Maa when I do, but I'm not attached to the clothing. Maa wants us to receiver her blessings, not be attached to the things she blesses us with. Love. Steve Connor wrote: > we are in a strange time but maybe all times are strange. > > i asked swamiji once about becoming a hindu, and he was not keen on it > the way subramuniyaswami was. i am not saying either is right/wrong. > > what i notice is this: even though swamiji and maa have a great > knowledge or their spiritual culture, down to all sorts of details, > they never seem to forget devotion is number one. > > mind does what in relation to the world? it actually creates it, or IS > it. so it is natural that when we think, we eventually manifest. > > we in in a process of cultural transition. we do not know the outcome. > but we are aware: my name does not mean so much to me [maybe.] or, > this clothing makes no sense, i wish for some unbroken cloth, what is > the point of this tie, what does this garment promote as an ideal? > > transition, this is all manifestation, harmonize ourselves, all will > evolve, the most important thing is to evolve the inner life > continuously. > > if we look at history we do see as the guru-teachings cross human > boundaries, the outer manifestation will change. think of buddhism > crossing into japan to become zen, or the guru who went from china and > india to tibet. in these cases, the spirit manifested into something > in some ways even more beautiful, or equally meaningful, as the > original transmission. > > jai maa. ------ > > > * Visit your group " > <>" on the web. > > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 jai maa brian, words of wisdom indeed. , Brian McKee <brian@s...> wrote: > Steve, > > I like it! > > Another way to put it is: stop worrying about having a name for > everything and just let everything be. > > Shree Maa has not given me a new name and that's mainly because I don't > feel I need one. My name is what mind calls these bodies moving through > this experience, it is not REALLY WHO I AM. Brian is a label for this > experience. You can see it as a book title, but it does not really > express the book at all. In order to be understood the book must be > read. You can't know Brian, but you can know his experience. > > The funny thing is: Shree Maa and Swamiji have Sanskritified my name, > pronouncing and even writing it in Sanskrit. They pronounce it Brah-Yan. > Names are only so good as they identify a piece or perspective of God. > We can say, "I love Ramakrishna" and we know who that is. Truly the name > is just a sign post pointing to a manifested devotion that we all relate > to. The signpost is not important, it is the diety that the signpost > points to which is important. > > There is a ritual at the Temple that I have been a part of a couple of > times where Maa presents clothes to the male devotees. These clothes are > special because they are blessed by Maa, right? Actually, I am blessed > by receiving them from Maa. It is the act of receiving them that is > special, not the clothes themselves. > > Its like my Guru says, "The mantra is the energy of God, once you absorb > the energy, the mantra is not needed anymore and will drop away." > > The blessings are real, the clothes are not. I try to accept the > blessings and let the clothing go. Not that I don't wear the clothes and > remember Maa when I do, but I'm not attached to the clothing. Maa wants > us to receiver her blessings, not be attached to the things she blesses > us with. > > Love. > > > Steve Connor wrote: > > > we are in a strange time but maybe all times are strange. > > > > i asked swamiji once about becoming a hindu, and he was not keen on it > > the way subramuniyaswami was. i am not saying either is right/wrong. > > > > what i notice is this: even though swamiji and maa have a great > > knowledge or their spiritual culture, down to all sorts of details, > > they never seem to forget devotion is number one. > > > > mind does what in relation to the world? it actually creates it, or IS > > it. so it is natural that when we think, we eventually manifest. > > > > we in in a process of cultural transition. we do not know the outcome. > > but we are aware: my name does not mean so much to me [maybe.] or, > > this clothing makes no sense, i wish for some unbroken cloth, what is > > the point of this tie, what does this garment promote as an ideal? > > > > transition, this is all manifestation, harmonize ourselves, all will > > evolve, the most important thing is to evolve the inner life > > continuously. > > > > if we look at history we do see as the guru-teachings cross human > > boundaries, the outer manifestation will change. think of buddhism > > crossing into japan to become zen, or the guru who went from china and > > india to tibet. in these cases, the spirit manifested into something > > in some ways even more beautiful, or equally meaningful, as the > > original transmission. > > > > jai maa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------- ---------------------- > > > > > > * Visit your group " > > <>" on the web. > > > > * > > > > <?subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > > > ----------------- ---------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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