397--Q&A WITH SWAMIJI-- Direction of yoni in a Shiva Lingam

[Guest guest]

I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a Shiva Lingam

face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit, east? What is

the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in front of the

yoni?

 

Nanda ventures a tentative response :We would face north , as would

the yoni. We could face east too. In any case we would not sit

directly in front of the yoni as that means we are facing South and

and really looking at Shiva's back. Is there any significance ,

Swamiji to not sitting directly in front of the yoni? Thank you for

your time

Swamiji's response: I agree with your reply. Also, if you sit facing

the yoni, if it is a large yoni, you will not be able to reach to the

top of Shiva.

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[Guest guest]

that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING the lingam.

 

dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about duality in our

devotions!!!!!!!!!!

 

, Nanda <chandimaakijai> wrote:

> Question from Eric:

> I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a Shiva Lingam

face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit, east? What is

the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in front of the

yoni?

>

> Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face east too. In

any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni as that means

we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's back. Is there

any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in front of the

yoni? Thank you for your time

>

> Swamiji's response:

> I agree with your reply.

> Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large yoni, you will

not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

>

>

>

>

> Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

to be honest Steve i am still confused about this. does this mean

that the area of the yoni, where the liquid is most likely to flow

into the container is nearer to the worshipper? or farther away,

pointing the direction we are facing? and i don't understand your

point about duality, either. just that kind of day i guess.

 

JAI MA

 

, "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

wrote:

> that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING the lingam.

>

> dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about duality in our

> devotions!!!!!!!!!!

>

> , Nanda <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

> > Question from Eric:

> > I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a Shiva

Lingam

> face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit, east? What

is

> the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in front of

the

> yoni?

> >

> > Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> > We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face east too.

In

> any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni as that

means

> we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's back. Is

there

> any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in front of the

> yoni? Thank you for your time

> >

> > Swamiji's response:

> > I agree with your reply.

> > Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large yoni, you will

> not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Start your day with - make it your home page

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one way to look at it might be: if we are facing the yoni, we are

assuming a dualistic approach, when we look in the same direction as

the yoni, we are assuming the "svahaa!" [i am one with god!] attitude.

 

, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

wrote:

> to be honest Steve i am still confused about this. does this mean

> that the area of the yoni, where the liquid is most likely to flow

> into the container is nearer to the worshipper? or farther away,

> pointing the direction we are facing? and i don't understand your

> point about duality, either. just that kind of day i guess.

>

> JAI MA

>

> , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

> wrote:

> > that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING the lingam.

> >

> > dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about duality in our

> > devotions!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > , Nanda <chandimaakijai>

> wrote:

> > > Question from Eric:

> > > I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a Shiva

> Lingam

> > face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit, east?

What

> is

> > the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in front of

> the

> > yoni?

> > >

> > > Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> > > We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face east

too.

> In

> > any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni as that

> means

> > we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's back. Is

> there

> > any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in front of the

> > yoni? Thank you for your time

> > >

> > > Swamiji's response:

> > > I agree with your reply.

> > > Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large yoni, you

will

> > not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

that's a good one. i was thinking that facing the yoni(being Kali)

meant we can't face Kali(and Kali is the biggest yoni after all), we

must be going in Her direction in order to get to the sahasrara

chakra. i mean if we are Siva. because he said that we can't reach

the top of Siva. i guess either way you want to go with the flow.

thanks for your help. i still am not sure what "facing" means...

 

, "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

wrote:

> one way to look at it might be: if we are facing the yoni, we are

> assuming a dualistic approach, when we look in the same direction

as

> the yoni, we are assuming the "svahaa!" [i am one with god!]

attitude.

>

> , "ecjensen_us"

<ecjensen_us>

> wrote:

> > to be honest Steve i am still confused about this. does this

mean

> > that the area of the yoni, where the liquid is most likely to

flow

> > into the container is nearer to the worshipper? or farther away,

> > pointing the direction we are facing? and i don't understand

your

> > point about duality, either. just that kind of day i guess.

> >

> > JAI MA

> >

> > , "Steve Connor"

<sconnor@a...>

> > wrote:

> > > that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING the

lingam.

> > >

> > > dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about duality in

our

> > > devotions!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > , Nanda

<chandimaakijai>

> > wrote:

> > > > Question from Eric:

> > > > I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a Shiva

> > Lingam

> > > face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit, east?

> What

> > is

> > > the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in front

of

> > the

> > > yoni?

> > > >

> > > > Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> > > > We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face east

> too.

> > In

> > > any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni as

that

> > means

> > > we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's back. Is

> > there

> > > any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in front of

the

> > > yoni? Thank you for your time

> > > >

> > > > Swamiji's response:

> > > > I agree with your reply.

> > > > Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large yoni, you

> will

> > > not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

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it's an issue with those whose spiritual aspirations are devotionally

based more than inquiring into the Self. Ramakrishna himself had to

process that, to proceed from the stance of the devotee to complete

immersion in the Self, even though he always kept to the bhav of the

devotee. so "facing" has that aspect of duality, "i am bowing to you."

at least, that is my take on it. eventually we "are" shiva, so we

cannot face shiva, everywhere we look we see shiva, shivas's form is

originating from within ourselves. it's all pretty interpretive until

we get there, speaking then from a genuinely experienced truth for

ourselves.

 

, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

wrote:

> that's a good one. i was thinking that facing the yoni(being Kali)

> meant we can't face Kali(and Kali is the biggest yoni after all),

we

> must be going in Her direction in order to get to the sahasrara

> chakra. i mean if we are Siva. because he said that we can't

reach

> the top of Siva. i guess either way you want to go with the flow.

> thanks for your help. i still am not sure what "facing" means...

>

> , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

> wrote:

> > one way to look at it might be: if we are facing the yoni, we are

> > assuming a dualistic approach, when we look in the same direction

> as

> > the yoni, we are assuming the "svahaa!" [i am one with god!]

> attitude.

> >

> > , "ecjensen_us"

> <ecjensen_us>

> > wrote:

> > > to be honest Steve i am still confused about this. does this

> mean

> > > that the area of the yoni, where the liquid is most likely to

> flow

> > > into the container is nearer to the worshipper? or farther

away,

> > > pointing the direction we are facing? and i don't understand

> your

> > > point about duality, either. just that kind of day i guess.

> > >

> > > JAI MA

> > >

> > > , "Steve Connor"

> <sconnor@a...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING the

> lingam.

> > > >

> > > > dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about duality

in

> our

> > > > devotions!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > , Nanda

> <chandimaakijai>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Question from Eric:

> > > > > I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a Shiva

> > > Lingam

> > > > face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit, east?

> > What

> > > is

> > > > the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in

front

> of

> > > the

> > > > yoni?

> > > > >

> > > > > Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> > > > > We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face east

> > too.

> > > In

> > > > any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni as

> that

> > > means

> > > > we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's back.

Is

> > > there

> > > > any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in front

of

> the

> > > > yoni? Thank you for your time

> > > > >

> > > > > Swamiji's response:

> > > > > I agree with your reply.

> > > > > Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large yoni, you

> > will

> > > > not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

Oh, man!! My brain hurts! (as Linda might say)

 

Jai Maa!

Chris

 

 

, "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

wrote:

> that's a good one. i was thinking that facing the yoni(being Kali)

> meant we can't face Kali(and Kali is the biggest yoni after all), we

> must be going in Her direction in order to get to the sahasrara

> chakra. i mean if we are Siva. because he said that we can't reach

> the top of Siva. i guess either way you want to go with the flow.

> thanks for your help. i still am not sure what "facing" means...

>

> , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

> wrote:

> > one way to look at it might be: if we are facing the yoni, we are

> > assuming a dualistic approach, when we look in the same direction

> as

> > the yoni, we are assuming the "svahaa!" [i am one with god!]

> attitude.

> >

> > , "ecjensen_us"

> <ecjensen_us>

> > wrote:

> > > to be honest Steve i am still confused about this. does this

> mean

> > > that the area of the yoni, where the liquid is most likely to

> flow

> > > into the container is nearer to the worshipper? or farther away,

> > > pointing the direction we are facing? and i don't understand

> your

> > > point about duality, either. just that kind of day i guess.

> > >

> > > JAI MA

> > >

> > > , "Steve Connor"

> <sconnor@a...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING the

> lingam.

> > > >

> > > > dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about duality in

> our

> > > > devotions!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > , Nanda

> <chandimaakijai>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Question from Eric:

> > > > > I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a Shiva

> > > Lingam

> > > > face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit, east?

> > What

> > > is

> > > > the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in front

> of

> > > the

> > > > yoni?

> > > > >

> > > > > Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> > > > > We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face east

> > too.

> > > In

> > > > any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni as

> that

> > > means

> > > > we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's back. Is

> > > there

> > > > any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in front of

> the

> > > > yoni? Thank you for your time

> > > > >

> > > > > Swamiji's response:

> > > > > I agree with your reply.

> > > > > Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large yoni, you

> > will

> > > > not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

ok try this one on, eric.

 

neither you nor i can get to the top of the lingam because shiva is

INFINITE! ... as long as we have a "face" ... a self image ...

 

so ... what are all these pujas and things, facing east and north and

all that? ways to express your devotion for the infinite. and all

these gods are forms, ways to appreciate the aspects of the eternal.

 

jai maa, victory to you, eric, as you feel the smile on your

limitless face, as you transcend yourself, as truth and bliss

endlessly radiate!

 

 

 

, "Chris Kirner"

<chriskirner1956> wrote:

> Oh, man!! My brain hurts! (as Linda might say)

>

> Jai Maa!

> Chris

>

>

> , "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us>

> wrote:

> > that's a good one. i was thinking that facing the yoni(being

Kali)

> > meant we can't face Kali(and Kali is the biggest yoni after all),

we

> > must be going in Her direction in order to get to the sahasrara

> > chakra. i mean if we are Siva. because he said that we can't

reach

> > the top of Siva. i guess either way you want to go with the

flow.

> > thanks for your help. i still am not sure what "facing" means...

> >

> > , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

> > wrote:

> > > one way to look at it might be: if we are facing the yoni, we

are

> > > assuming a dualistic approach, when we look in the same

direction

> > as

> > > the yoni, we are assuming the "svahaa!" [i am one with god!]

> > attitude.

> > >

> > > , "ecjensen_us"

> > <ecjensen_us>

> > > wrote:

> > > > to be honest Steve i am still confused about this. does this

> > mean

> > > > that the area of the yoni, where the liquid is most likely to

> > flow

> > > > into the container is nearer to the worshipper? or farther

away,

> > > > pointing the direction we are facing? and i don't understand

> > your

> > > > point about duality, either. just that kind of day i guess.

> > > >

> > > > JAI MA

> > > >

> > > > , "Steve Connor"

> > <sconnor@a...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING the

> > lingam.

> > > > >

> > > > > dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about duality

in

> > our

> > > > > devotions!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > , Nanda

> > <chandimaakijai>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Question from Eric:

> > > > > > I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a

Shiva

> > > > Lingam

> > > > > face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit,

east?

> > > What

> > > > is

> > > > > the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in

front

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > yoni?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> > > > > > We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face

east

> > > too.

> > > > In

> > > > > any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni as

> > that

> > > > means

> > > > > we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's back.

Is

> > > > there

> > > > > any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in front

of

> > the

> > > > > yoni? Thank you for your time

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Swamiji's response:

> > > > > > I agree with your reply.

> > > > > > Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large yoni,

you

> > > will

> > > > > not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

uncle! you are so right. i guess it's best not to be too rigid when

worshipping God(the infinite). you have to approach it from any and

all directions to really appreciate the aspects of the eternal.

 

, "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...>

wrote:

> ok try this one on, eric.

>

> neither you nor i can get to the top of the lingam because shiva is

> INFINITE! ... as long as we have a "face" ... a self image ...

>

> so ... what are all these pujas and things, facing east and north

and

> all that? ways to express your devotion for the infinite. and all

> these gods are forms, ways to appreciate the aspects of the

eternal.

>

> jai maa, victory to you, eric, as you feel the smile on your

> limitless face, as you transcend yourself, as truth and bliss

> endlessly radiate!

>

>

>

> , "Chris Kirner"

> <chriskirner1956> wrote:

> > Oh, man!! My brain hurts! (as Linda might say)

> >

> > Jai Maa!

> > Chris

> >

> >

> > , "ecjensen_us"

<ecjensen_us>

> > wrote:

> > > that's a good one. i was thinking that facing the yoni(being

> Kali)

> > > meant we can't face Kali(and Kali is the biggest yoni after

all),

> we

> > > must be going in Her direction in order to get to the

sahasrara

> > > chakra. i mean if we are Siva. because he said that we can't

> reach

> > > the top of Siva. i guess either way you want to go with the

> flow.

> > > thanks for your help. i still am not sure what "facing"

means...

> > >

> > > , "Steve Connor"

<sconnor@a...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > one way to look at it might be: if we are facing the yoni, we

> are

> > > > assuming a dualistic approach, when we look in the same

> direction

> > > as

> > > > the yoni, we are assuming the "svahaa!" [i am one with god!]

> > > attitude.

> > > >

> > > > , "ecjensen_us"

> > > <ecjensen_us>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > to be honest Steve i am still confused about this. does

this

> > > mean

> > > > > that the area of the yoni, where the liquid is most likely

to

> > > flow

> > > > > into the container is nearer to the worshipper? or farther

> away,

> > > > > pointing the direction we are facing? and i don't

understand

> > > your

> > > > > point about duality, either. just that kind of day i

guess.

> > > > >

> > > > > JAI MA

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Steve Connor"

> > > <sconnor@a...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > that is really interesting, as i too have been FACING

the

> > > lingam.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dig what swamiji says, he is giving us a hint about

duality

> in

> > > our

> > > > > > devotions!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Nanda

> > > <chandimaakijai>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Question from Eric:

> > > > > > > I have a couple of questions -why does the yoni in a

> Shiva

> > > > > Lingam

> > > > > > face north? and which direction are we supposed to sit,

> east?

> > > > What

> > > > > is

> > > > > > the significance, if any, to sitting(or not) directly in

> front

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > yoni?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nanda ventures a tentative response :

> > > > > > > We would face north , as would the yoni. We could face

> east

> > > > too.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > any case we would not sit directly in front of the yoni

as

> > > that

> > > > > means

> > > > > > we are facing South and and really looking at Shiva's

back.

> Is

> > > > > there

> > > > > > any significance , Swamiji to not sitting directly in

front

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > yoni? Thank you for your time

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Swamiji's response:

> > > > > > > I agree with your reply.

> > > > > > > Also, if you sit facing the yoni, if it is a large

yoni,

> you

> > > > will

> > > > > > not be able to reach to the top of Shiva.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Start your day with - make it your home page