Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Question from Nanda: When we do the arati at the Mandir, we offer the conch used in the viseshargya . If we do just beginner Shiva/Durga puja, since we dont perform the viseshargya can we omit offering the conch during arati ? Can people doing the beginner puja just offer incense/ lights/camphor and flower ? Thank you for your time. Swamiji's response: As there are many ways of offering puja, so there are many ways of offering arati. There is panchopachar puja (five items), dasopachar (ten items), shorasopachar (sixteen items) and rajopachar (many more than sixteen). The important ingredient is bhakti. Nanda's footnote :Hope that helps Grace ! Remember you had asked a question during our Beginner Puja series whether we needed a second conch to offer during arati ? Well, we can omit that for beginners and do panchopachar puja. Any one know the five items ? (Aside from Bhakti :-) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 > > Swamiji's response: >"The important ingredient is bhakti." Jai Swamiji, Jai Swamiji! Jai a thousand times! i bow to You with every part of being!!!!!!!!!!! Dissolving in Maa's love, muktimaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 I readed this nectar about Arati in the book Worship of Sri Ramakrishna: "The tradicion Vaisnava gives another beautiful interpretation of the Aratrika ritual. we are presented with a charming picture of the Lord sporting on this earth as the child Krishna. He has been out since the morning, grazing the cows in fields. Now it is almost twilight, the "cow-dust" hour. Um anxious Yashoda is waiting at the doorstep, ,straining her eyes to see whether her beloved child is on his way back. just at the twilight hour, the Divine Child returns. Darkness has begun to set in and it is difficult to see Krishna´s face clearly. So the first thing Yashoda does is to light the lamp and look at the enchanting face of her darling child to her heart´s content. She waves the lamp around him to check if his tender body has been hurt or has been smeared with the dust and dirt of the woods. Then she gives him a good wash cool scented water. Next she wipes him dry and clean with a piece of soft cloth. She then decorates her Gopala with fragrant flowers and garlands. Decoration over, she gazes at him lovingly, with one-pointed attention. Simultaneously, Yashoda fans her Child with a camara to remove his fatigue. Then all on a sudden, she perceives in the Divine Child the presence of the Supreme Lord, the Primal Cause of all creation, ,and overwhelmed with devotion, respect and awe, she falls at His lotus feet and salutes Him." Jai Swamiji! Jai Maa! Yes! the essential is bhakti. I bow in yours sacred lotus feet. You are bhakti in person. With love Kala ChandraNanda <chandimaakijai > escreveu: Question from Nanda:When we do the arati at the Mandir, we offer the conch used in the viseshargya . If we do just beginner Shiva/Durga puja, since we dont perform the viseshargya can we omit offering the conch during arati ? Can people doing the beginner puja just offer incense/ lights/camphor and flower ? Thank you for your time.Swamiji's response: As there are many ways of offering puja, so there are many ways of offering arati. There is panchopachar puja (five items), dasopachar (ten items), shorasopachar (sixteen items) and rajopachar (many more than sixteen).The important ingredient is bhakti.Nanda's footnote :Hope that helps Grace ! Remember you had asked a question during our Beginner Puja series whether we needed a second conch to offer during arati ? Well, we can omit that for beginners and do panchopachar puja. Any one know the five items ? (Aside from Bhakti :-) ) Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Messenger http://br.download./messenger/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Jai Maa, Querida Kala Chandraji! Thank-you so much for sharing this Bhakti filled excerpt from "The Worship of Sri Ramakrishna"! i am very inspired, as i always am reading your pure hearted, devotion filled posts. i have that particular book and now i will go back and re-read some of it's wonderful sweetness. May Thakur continue to bless you with Divine Bhakti to Maa's Lotus Feet! May She hold your dear hand all the days of your life and beyond! Kisses! Jai Chandi Shree Maa! Jai Shiva Swamiji! Jai Thakur Sri Ramakrishna Deva! your sister in God, muktimaa , Kala Chandra <kalachandra2003> wrote: > Dear Nandaji and Grace > I readed this nectar about Arati in the book Worship of Sri Ramakrishna: > > "The tradicion Vaisnava gives another beautiful interpretation of the Aratrika ritual. we are presented with a charming picture of the Lord sporting on this earth as the child Krishna. He has been out since the morning, grazing the cows in fields. Now it is almost twilight, the "cow-dust" hour. Um anxious Yashoda is waiting at the doorstep, ,straining her eyes to see whether her beloved child is on his way back. just at the twilight hour, the Divine Child returns. Darkness has begun to set in and it is difficult to see Krishna´s face clearly. So the first thing Yashoda does is to light the lamp and look at the enchanting face of her darling child to her heart´s content. She waves the lamp around him to check if his tender body has been hurt or has been smeared with the dust and dirt of the woods. Then she gives him a good wash cool scented water. Next she wipes him dry and clean with a piece of soft cloth. She then decorates her Gopala with fragrant flowers and garlands. Decoration > over, she gazes at him lovingly, with one-pointed attention. Simultaneously, Yashoda fans her Child with a camara to remove his fatigue. Then all on a sudden, she perceives in the Divine Child the presence of the Supreme Lord, the Primal Cause of all creation, ,and overwhelmed with devotion, respect and awe, she falls at His lotus feet and salutes Him." > > Jai Swamiji! Jai Maa! Yes! the essential is bhakti. I bow in yours sacred lotus feet. You are bhakti in person. > > With love > Kala Chandra > Nanda <chandimaakijai> escreveu: > Question from Nanda: > When we do the arati at the Mandir, we offer the conch used in the > viseshargya . If we do just beginner Shiva/Durga puja, since we > dont perform the viseshargya can we omit offering the conch during > arati ? Can people doing the beginner puja just offer incense/ > lights/camphor and flower ? Thank you for your time. > > Swamiji's response: > As there are many ways of offering puja, so there are many ways of > offering arati. There is panchopachar puja (five items), dasopachar > (ten items), shorasopachar (sixteen items) and rajopachar (many more > than sixteen). > > The important ingredient is bhakti. > > Nanda's footnote :Hope that helps Grace ! Remember you had asked a > question during our Beginner Puja series whether we needed a second > conch to offer during arati ? Well, we can omit that for beginners > and do panchopachar puja. Any one know the five items ? (Aside from > Bhakti :-) ) > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Messenger > http://br.download./messenger/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Wow, so beautiful! Thank you Kala Chandra. --- Kala Chandra <kalachandra2003 wrote: > Dear Nandaji and Grace > I readed this nectar about Arati in the book Worship > of Sri Ramakrishna: > > "The tradicion Vaisnava gives another beautiful > interpretation of the Aratrika ritual. we are > presented with a charming picture of the Lord > sporting on this earth as the child Krishna. He has > been out since the morning, grazing the cows in > fields. Now it is almost twilight, the "cow-dust" > hour. Um anxious Yashoda is waiting at the doorstep, > ,straining her eyes to see whether her beloved child > is on his way back. just at the twilight hour, the > Divine Child returns. Darkness has begun to set in > and it is difficult to see Krishna´s face clearly. > So the first thing Yashoda does is to light the lamp > and look at the enchanting face of her darling child > to her heart´s content. She waves the lamp around > him to check if his tender body has been hurt or has > been smeared with the dust and dirt of the woods. > Then she gives him a good wash cool scented water. > Next she wipes him dry and clean with a piece of > soft cloth. She then decorates her Gopala with > fragrant flowers and garlands. Decoration > over, she gazes at him lovingly, with one-pointed > attention. Simultaneously, Yashoda fans her Child > with a camara to remove his fatigue. Then all on a > sudden, she perceives in the Divine Child the > presence of the Supreme Lord, the Primal Cause of > all creation, ,and overwhelmed with devotion, > respect and awe, she falls at His lotus feet and > salutes Him." > > Jai Swamiji! Jai Maa! Yes! the essential is bhakti. > I bow in yours sacred lotus feet. You are bhakti in > person. > > With love > Kala Chandra > Nanda <chandimaakijai escreveu: > Question from Nanda: > When we do the arati at the Mandir, we offer the > conch used in the > viseshargya . If we do just beginner Shiva/Durga > puja, since we > dont perform the viseshargya can we omit offering > the conch during > arati ? Can people doing the beginner puja just > offer incense/ > lights/camphor and flower ? Thank you for your time. > > Swamiji's response: > As there are many ways of offering puja, so there > are many ways of > offering arati. There is panchopachar puja (five > items), dasopachar > (ten items), shorasopachar (sixteen items) and > rajopachar (many more > than sixteen). > > The important ingredient is bhakti. > > Nanda's footnote :Hope that helps Grace ! Remember > you had asked a > question during our Beginner Puja series whether we > needed a second > conch to offer during arati ? Well, we can omit that > for beginners > and do panchopachar puja. Any one know the five > items ? (Aside from > Bhakti :-) ) > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o > Messenger > http://br.download./messenger/ __ Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Wow, so beautiful! Thank you Kala Chandra.--- Kala Chandra <kalachandra2003 .br> wrote:> Dear Nandaji and Grace> I readed this nectar about Arati in the book Worship> of Sri Ramakrishna:> > "The tradicion Vaisnava gives another beautiful> interpretation of the Aratrika ritual. we are> presented with a charming picture of the Lord> sporting on this earth as the child Krishna. He has> been out since the morning, grazing the cows in> fields. Now it is almost twilight, the "cow-dust"> hour. Um anxious Yashoda is waiting at the doorstep,> ,straining her eyes to see whether her beloved child> is on his way back. just at the twilight hour, the> Divine Child returns. Darkness has begun to set in> and it is difficult to see Krishna´s face clearly.> So the first thing Yashoda does is to light the lamp> and look at the enchanting face of her darling child> to her heart´s content. She waves the lamp around> him to check if his tender body has been hurt or has> been smeared with the dust and dirt of the woods.> Then she gives him a good wash cool scented water.> Next she wipes him dry and clean with a piece of> soft cloth. She then decorates her Gopala with> fragrant flowers and garlands. Decoration> over, she gazes at him lovingly, with one-pointed> attention. Simultaneously, Yashoda fans her Child> with a camara to remove his fatigue. Then all on a> sudden, she perceives in the Divine Child the> presence of the Supreme Lord, the Primal Cause of> all creation, ,and overwhelmed with devotion, > respect and awe, she falls at His lotus feet and> salutes Him."> > Jai Swamiji! Jai Maa! Yes! the essential is bhakti.> I bow in yours sacred lotus feet. You are bhakti in> person.> > With love> Kala Chandra> Nanda <chandimaakijai > escreveu:> Question from Nanda:> When we do the arati at the Mandir, we offer the> conch used in the > viseshargya . If we do just beginner Shiva/Durga> puja, since we > dont perform the viseshargya can we omit offering> the conch during > arati ? Can people doing the beginner puja just> offer incense/ > lights/camphor and flower ? Thank you for your time.> > Swamiji's response: > As there are many ways of offering puja, so there> are many ways of > offering arati. There is panchopachar puja (five> items), dasopachar > (ten items), shorasopachar (sixteen items) and> rajopachar (many more > than sixteen).> > The important ingredient is bhakti.> > Nanda's footnote :Hope that helps Grace ! Remember> you had asked a > question during our Beginner Puja series whether we> needed a second > conch to offer during arati ? Well, we can omit that> for beginners > and do panchopachar puja. Any one know the five> items ? (Aside from > Bhakti :-) ) > > > > > > > > ! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email> to:> > > Your use of Groups is subject to the> > > > > > > > > > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o > Messenger > http://br.download./messenger/ __Start your day with - make it your home page http://www./r/hs Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Messenger http://br.download./messenger/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Dear sister Kalachandra, thank you for taking the time to share what you read with us. It is beautiful and it changed my understanding of arati completely. in silence at the blessed feet of the One who is Love, Henny , Kala Chandra <kalachandra2003 > wrote: > Dear Nandaji and Grace > I readed this nectar about Arati in the book Worship of Sri Ramakrishna: > > "The tradicion Vaisnava gives another beautiful interpretation of the Aratrika ritual. we are presented with a charming picture of the Lord sporting on this earth as the child Krishna. He has been out since the morning, grazing the cows in fields. Now it is almost twilight, the "cow-dust" hour. Um anxious Yashoda is waiting at the doorstep, ,straining her eyes to see whether her beloved child is on his way back. just at the twilight hour, the Divine Child returns. Darkness has begun to set in and it is difficult to see Krishna´s face clearly. So the first thing Yashoda does is to light the lamp and look at the enchanting face of her darling child to her heart´s content. She waves the lamp around him to check if his tender body has been hurt or has been smeared with the dust and dirt of the woods. Then she gives him a good wash cool scented water. Next she wipes him dry and clean with a piece of soft cloth. She then decorates her Gopala with fragrant flowers and garlands. Decoration > over, she gazes at him lovingly, with one-pointed attention. Simultaneously, Yashoda fans her Child with a camara to remove his fatigue. Then all on a sudden, she perceives in the Divine Child the presence of the Supreme Lord, the Primal Cause of all creation, ,and overwhelmed with devotion, respect and awe, she falls at His lotus feet and salutes Him." > > Jai Swamiji! Jai Maa! Yes! the essential is bhakti. I bow in yours sacred lotus feet. You are bhakti in person. > > With love > Kala Chandra > Nanda <chandimaakijai> escreveu: > Question from Nanda: > When we do the arati at the Mandir, we offer the conch used in the > viseshargya . If we do just beginner Shiva/Durga puja, since we > dont perform the viseshargya can we omit offering the conch during > arati ? Can people doing the beginner puja just offer incense/ > lights/camphor and flower ? Thank you for your time. > > Swamiji's response: > As there are many ways of offering puja, so there are many ways of > offering arati. There is panchopachar puja (five items), dasopachar > (ten items), shorasopachar (sixteen items) and rajopachar (many more > than sixteen). > > The important ingredient is bhakti. > > Nanda's footnote :Hope that helps Grace ! Remember you had asked a > question during our Beginner Puja series whether we needed a second > conch to offer during arati ? Well, we can omit that for beginners > and do panchopachar puja. Any one know the five items ? (Aside from > Bhakti :-) ) > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Messenger > http://br.download./messenger/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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