Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 >>"Swamiji says that anyone that wanted to pay homage to their ancestors during this Pitri paksh could "1) Chant one mala of Gayatri maala and/or 2) Chant one mala of MahaMrtyunjay mala each day, and lovingly offer the benefits to their ancestory/lineage. Swamiji says to do this mala of Gayatri/MahaMrtyunjay for all the 15 days and then do a lot more(maybe a 1000) on the 15th day - which is Mahalaya Amavasya. JAI MAA Nanda"<< Dear Nanda, Thanks so much for this! Thanks, Swamiji. At the local temple, Mahalaya Amavasya will be the Hanuman Abishek...now I am planning to spend a while there doing this japa on the 15th day...thank you SO much!!!! (I'll be thinking of you, Swamiji!!). best regards, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 >>"The dark half of the Ashwin (September-October) is observe as Pitra Paksha throughout the Hindu world. Shradha is offered to the dead and departed ancestors of the family. On each day of the fortnight, oblations of water and pindas or balls of rice and meal are offered to the dead relatives by the surviving relatives. A Shraddha is not a funeral ceremony but a supplement to such a ceremony. It is an act of reverential homage to a dead person performed by relatives, and is supposed to supply the dead with strengthening nutriment after the performance of the previous funeral ceremonies has endowed the ethered bodies. It is believed that until Shraddha has been performed the deceased relative is a preta or a restless, wandering ghost and has no real body. Only after the Shraddha, he attains a position among the Petris or Divine Father in their blissful abode called pitri-loka. It is trditionally believed that a Shraddha is most desirable and efficacious when done by a son."<<< Here's some information about Pitru Paksha. The rites are pretty elaborate for Hindus, I think. Once, I was at a Temple where we did the ritual: the pindas, the tarpana, etc. But what I did was much simpler, using the tarpana from Cosmic Puja (pp.327-330) and offerings of kum kum rice and water. Usually Pitru Paksha occurs sometime in late Sept. before Navaratri. I believe the usual period is 2 weeks or 15 days? It's a good time to remember ancestors. It's pretty easy to make the pindas. Maybe it would be a good practice every year for those of us who have lost parents or loved ones. I do the "Swamiji suggested version" now every year and try to do it where my parent's ashes were immersed. Someone else here might have better information about this "holiday" (kind of weird to call it a holiday). best, sadhvi The eldest son or some other elder male member of the family performs Shraddha in honour of the dead and offers oblations. Part of the food-offering is also given to the cows and the crows. Brahmins are fed and given dakshina, for it is believed that whatever is given to the Brahmins also reaches the departed souls. Khir, a sweet milk and rice preparation, is especially prepared and offered to the pitris on this occasion. On the last day of the fortnight,i.e. on the Amavasya oblations are offered to all those departed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 of reverential homage to a dead person performed by relatives, and is supposed to supply the dead with strengthening nutriment after the performance of the previous funeral ceremonies has endowed the ethered bodies. It is believed that until Shraddha has been performed the deceased relative is a preta or a restless, wandering ghost and has no real body. Only after the Shraddha, he attains a position among the Petris or Divine Father in their blissful abode called pitri-loka. It is trditionally believed that a Shraddha is most desirable and efficacious when done by a son."<<<Here's some information about Pitru Paksha. The rites are pretty elaborate for Hindus, I think. Once, I was at a Temple where we did the ritual: the pindas, the tarpana, etc. But what I did was much simpler, using the tarpana from Cosmic Puja (pp.327-330) and offerings of kum kum rice and water. Usually Pitru Paksha occurs sometime in late Sept. before Navaratri. I believe the usual period is 2 weeks or 15 days? It's a good time to remember ancestors. It's pretty easy to make the pindas. Maybe it would be a good practice every year for those of us who have lost parents or loved ones. I do the "Swamiji suggested version" now every year and try to do it where my parent's ashes were immersed. Someone else here might have better information about this "holiday" (kind of weird to call it a holiday). best,sadhviThe eldest son or some other elder male member of the family performs Shraddha in honour of the dead and offers oblations. Part of the food-offering is also given to the cows and the crows. Brahmins are fed and given dakshina, for it is believed that whatever is given to the Brahmins also reaches the departed souls. Khir, a sweet milk and rice preparation, is especially prepared and offered to the pitris on this occasion. On the last day of the fortnight,i.e. on the Amavasya oblations are offered to all thosedeparted. With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 In a message dated 1/25/06 7:24:18 PM Mountain Standard Time, lightdweller writes: BUT, It is said that if one chants the Lalitha Sahasranama & or Vishnu Sahasranama, and or worships the Salagrama Sila that there is no need for those types of observances, as the ancestors will get all they need thru these practices. How tru? any thoughts anyone? Janardana Dasa Namaste Janardana Dasa, If you call someone in a rural area that does not have the technology for a clear call, the message may not get through as well as the call placed in established areas of clear communication. The message will still get through, though not perhaps in the same intensity. Understand this is not meant to be one is better than the other, that depends on the presentation, its purpose, the presenter, and the recipients. With Love Om Namah Sivaya Kanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 >>"BUT, It is said that if one chants the Lalitha Sahasranama & or Vishnu Sahasranama, and or worships the Salagrama Sila that there is no need for those types of observances, as the ancestors will get all they need thru these practices. How tru? any thoughts anyone? Janardana Dasa"<< Dear Janardana Dasa, Thank you for this information. It's clear that there are so many different approaches to each obvervance and it can get more and more and more complicated. For this reason, I am really grateful to have Swamiji's clear-headed, cut-through-to-the-essential, advice. So many times, even what is considered "right" varies from North India to South India and even from Temple to Temple. For a Westerner, such as myself, it is quite impossible to "understand with the mind"...so I do try to remember Swamiji's advice about devotion being the key in every practice. Thanks again for your post...(especially since I chant the Lalitha Sahasranama regularly...lol!). best regards to you, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 cut-through-to-the-essential, advice. So many times, even what is considered "right" varies from North India to South India and even from Temple to Temple. For a Westerner, such as myself, it is quite impossible to "understand with the mind"...so I do try to remember Swamiji's advice about devotion being the key in every practice. Thanks again for your post...(especially since I chant the Lalitha Sahasranama regularly...lol!).best regards to you,sadhvi With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 namaste, and thank you for the explanation. so, if there are no male elders, can females do this ceremony for their relatives? what are pindas? nityashakti wrote: "The dark half of the Ashwin (September-October) is observe as Pitra Paksha throughout the Hindu world. Shradha is offered to the dead and departed ancestors of the family. On each day of the fortnight, oblations of water and pindas or balls of rice and meal are offered to the dead relatives by the surviving relatives. A Shraddha is not a funeral ceremony but a supplement to such a ceremony. It is an act of reverential homage to a dead person performed by relatives, and is supposed to supply the dead with strengthening nutriment after the performance of the previous funeral ceremonies has endowed the ethered bodies. It is believed that until Shraddha has been performed the deceased relative is a preta or a restless, wandering ghost and has no real body. Only after the Shraddha, he attains a position among the Petris or Divine Father in their blissful abode called pitri-loka. It is trditionally believed that a Shraddha is most desirable and efficacious when done by a son."<<< -- "Naan Amme Snehikkunnu" Be Love, Egyirba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 >>>"namaste, and thank you for the explanation. so, if there are no male elders, can females do this ceremony for their relatives? what are pindas?"<< Namaste, I don't know about the male/female question. The Temple I went to (where we all did this ceremony together), had alternating rows of men and women. WE all made the offerings of pindas (little balls of rice flour, sesame, honey and ghee), water, flowers and other things. This was a Temple where the devotees were mostly from Tamil Nadu or Chennai and the ceremony is held every year at the very end of the 2 week period. Since I was traveling and just happened to arrive on this day, I did not ask if people had done other observances during the 2 week period so I'm not sure. I guess my observation has been that these things can get INCREDIBLY complicated...some people adhering to the tradition that ONLY Brahmins and ONLY men can do these rituals. Other traditions, especially Shakta traditions, feeling that women can also do these rituals. But, again, since I am both a Westerner and a woman, I imagine that I would not fit any of the usual categories...which is why I am so happy to have Swamiji always reminding us of the bottom line of devotion. It's God, after all, who is everything: ritual, practice, devotion...all we can do is what our hearts seem to lead us to...and follow the guidance that we are fortunate enough to find here. best regards to you, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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