Surrender and Fear

[Guest guest]

Jai Maa!

Dear Nanda, Is there anything posted on what Maa and Swamiji say

about 'Fear' (what is the 'fear' that Maa destroys - fear of what?);

and also about 'surrender' (what, actually, is 'surrender' - and how

does one differentiate 'surrendering' from, say, taking no action in

an abusive situation?). Thank you very much for your help. Jai Maa

[Guest guest]

Wonderful questions. They are fundamental, in fact I think had Douglas

Adams been given a chance I think he may have somehow made their answer

42.

 

Here is what I have learned on the subjects. I hope you don't mind me

answering, I'm of the opinion that different perspectives often help a

mind break free.

> Jai Maa!

> Dear Nanda, Is there anything posted on what Maa and Swamiji say

> about 'Fear' (what is the 'fear' that Maa destroys - fear of what?);

 

Maa destroys all fears. And all fears are derived from the fear of death.

> and also about 'surrender' (what, actually, is 'surrender' - and how

> does one differentiate 'surrendering' from, say, taking no action in

> an abusive situation?). Thank you very much for your help. Jai Maa

 

Surrender in the context of abuse is one of those subjects thats very sore

for some and mostly misunderstood by all. The only reason I know anything

about it is simply because I was in an abusive relationship with the

Goddess, my ex-wife.

 

And before I talk about it, let me bow down to her.

 

I bow to Kali and Durga my perfect mirrors and to Lakshmi and Saraswati my

liberators. I bow to Suzanne, my ex-wife, the most powerful spiritual

teacher I've ever had.

 

All abuse stems from fear. And as I said before all fears are based on the

fear of death. The mind is a survival mechanism born in a harsh reality to

enable us, the animal, to survive. Its intelligence is a two edged sword,

it enables us to survive, but also makes us self aware. Enabling us to

survive means that the mind itself is driven by fear, and those who look

inward will tell you that all desire is also the same as fear. They are

just flip sides of the same coin. We desire sex because we fear death of

the species, that is a genetic fear created in our body by the condition

of existance. It never goes away. In fact none of the fears ever go away,

we just rise above them through God's grace.

 

The really interesting thing is: fear's basis is that of a desire to know

ourselves. Our souls know that fear itself is healthy, it keeps us alive

enables us to survive, but thinking about fear is unhealthy and

irrational. Experiencing fear is normal and healthy, but thinking about it

the opposite. Our minds obsess over fear or any of its derivative desires

because our souls know that it is unconscious to be driven by fear and

wants us to learn to let it go.

 

Which brings me to one of my fundamental principals. If you see a crazy

person, they are on the brink of truly knowing who they are and letting go

of all fear. They obsess over things, are adicted to things because their

soul, their true nature, wants them to let go and is driving them hard to

do so. The people who do not contemplate their nature or the nature of God

or the universe are not more healthy than the addicts who destroy

themselves with drugs, alcohol, sex, work, money, exercize, food, etc.

They are probably less conscious and less desirous of Truth and Reality.

 

I think I derived this line of thought to stop feeling that being a

lunatic is a bad thing and to accept that its just who I am. I obsess over

God. Its my nature. I'm okay with it now. It also helps me identify the

most tortured minds and feel joy at their tremendous opportunity --

instead of feeling sorry that they are addicts, lost, immoral, or any of

the other labels my mind has learned to apply to them, I instead recognize

that they are actually fighting to be conscious and that they can make it,

if they can let go of the fear that fights the incoming consciousness.

 

They fight it because of their mind's fear of death. Because of that

fundamental instinct which is genetically and socially pounded into our

bodies and minds.

 

Letting go of all fear is very much like death, because much of the mind

we developed as children to survive in this harsh world must cease to

function, and so it feels as if we are dying through the process of

enlightenment.

 

Your other question is about surrender. What is surrender?

 

Surrender is merely the mental juxtaposition of accepting everything out

of our control as it is and not wanting to change it. Surrender is also

realizing that we want to change things, realizing that we can't stop

ourselves from wanting to change things, but desiring to stop wanting to

change things anyway. Surrender is also praying to God to take away our

desire to change things. Surrender is also practicing non-reaction. If we

feel a fear reaction, or a desire reaction, and we stop our selves from

acting on it in the moment, from reacting to it, externally and hopefully

even internally, then we are surrendered to God, accepting the experience

She has ordained for us. And by doing so we get Her attention and She pays

us a visit. If we prevent ourselves from reacting to Her visit, She gets

very excited and begins to test us. "Just how non-reactive is this

Sadakh?" She says and She and Maha Maya conspire to determine just how

devoted we are to this peaceful state of mind.

 

That is the first step to enlightenment, it is the establishment of the

first level of Samadhi, establishment of the participants, Maa and I and

most importantly Our Working Relationship. When you know She's here, and

you feel your relationship to Her, you are aware. Say Hello to Samadhi,

your old friend the businessman and invite him to go on a trek with you.

He will learn with you about "She Who Takes Away" from the Rishis you meet

on your journeys.

 

Enlightenment is just God adjusting our minds (taking away) enough so it

steps out of God's way allowing Her to operate through us directly.

 

This is of course overly simplified. It is not possible to express in

words what I learned on my journey, it is only possible to summarize by

drawing a finger painting on a bill board in the shape of an arrow that

points to Goddess and says, "Go bow there." I can add a few crude symbols,

like an OM or a beautiful tall tree, or an efficient Bumble Bee but in the

end its still a finger painting on a sign pointing to Goddess that says,

"Go bow there."

 

The short answers are:

 

1. She removes all fears (or from another perspective she makes it so we

don't concern ourselves with fears).

2. Surrender is trusting God in all things.

 

OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI

[Guest guest]

wow. thanks, brian.

 

Brian McKee wrote:

 

--

 

"Naan Amme Snehikkunnu"

 

Be Love,

Egyirba (Berijoy)

http://www.egyirba.net

/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`/`

 

 

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.... 0376."A saint lives in love. He lives in compassion. A saint is

the embodiment of love and compassion. In pure love there is no

burden. Nothing can be a burden to pure desireless love. Real love can

carry the entire universe without feeling any weight. Compassion can

shoulder the suffering of the entire world without feeling the slightest

bit of pain." - Vol.5, p41

[Guest guest]

Thank-you,

i am awestruck.....OM Maa...OM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote:

> Wonderful questions. They are fundamental, in fact I think had

Douglas

> Adams been given a chance I think he may have somehow made their

answer

> 42.

>

> Here is what I have learned on the subjects. I hope you don't mind

me

> answering, I'm of the opinion that different perspectives often

help a

> mind break free.

>

> > Jai Maa!

> > Dear Nanda, Is there anything posted on what Maa and Swamiji say

> > about 'Fear' (what is the 'fear' that Maa destroys - fear of

what?);

>

> Maa destroys all fears. And all fears are derived from the fear of

death.

>

> > and also about 'surrender' (what, actually, is 'surrender' - and

how

> > does one differentiate 'surrendering' from, say, taking no

action in

> > an abusive situation?). Thank you very much for your help. Jai

Maa

>

> Surrender in the context of abuse is one of those subjects thats

very sore

> for some and mostly misunderstood by all. The only reason I know

anything

> about it is simply because I was in an abusive relationship with the

> Goddess, my ex-wife.

>

> And before I talk about it, let me bow down to her.

>

> I bow to Kali and Durga my perfect mirrors and to Lakshmi and

Saraswati my

> liberators. I bow to Suzanne, my ex-wife, the most powerful

spiritual

> teacher I've ever had.

>

> All abuse stems from fear. And as I said before all fears are based

on the

> fear of death. The mind is a survival mechanism born in a harsh

reality to

> enable us, the animal, to survive. Its intelligence is a two edged

sword,

> it enables us to survive, but also makes us self aware. Enabling us

to

> survive means that the mind itself is driven by fear, and those who

look

> inward will tell you that all desire is also the same as fear. They

are

> just flip sides of the same coin. We desire sex because we fear

death of

> the species, that is a genetic fear created in our body by the

condition

> of existance. It never goes away. In fact none of the fears ever go

away,

> we just rise above them through God's grace.

>

> The really interesting thing is: fear's basis is that of a desire

to know

> ourselves. Our souls know that fear itself is healthy, it keeps us

alive

> enables us to survive, but thinking about fear is unhealthy and

> irrational. Experiencing fear is normal and healthy, but thinking

about it

> the opposite. Our minds obsess over fear or any of its derivative

desires

> because our souls know that it is unconscious to be driven by fear

and

> wants us to learn to let it go.

>

> Which brings me to one of my fundamental principals. If you see a

crazy

> person, they are on the brink of truly knowing who they are and

letting go

> of all fear. They obsess over things, are adicted to things because

their

> soul, their true nature, wants them to let go and is driving them

hard to

> do so. The people who do not contemplate their nature or the nature

of God

> or the universe are not more healthy than the addicts who destroy

> themselves with drugs, alcohol, sex, work, money, exercize, food,

etc.

> They are probably less conscious and less desirous of Truth and

Reality.

>

> I think I derived this line of thought to stop feeling that being a

> lunatic is a bad thing and to accept that its just who I am. I

obsess over

> God. Its my nature. I'm okay with it now. It also helps me identify

the

> most tortured minds and feel joy at their tremendous opportunity --

> instead of feeling sorry that they are addicts, lost, immoral, or

any of

> the other labels my mind has learned to apply to them, I instead

recognize

> that they are actually fighting to be conscious and that they can

make it,

> if they can let go of the fear that fights the incoming

consciousness.

>

> They fight it because of their mind's fear of death. Because of that

> fundamental instinct which is genetically and socially pounded into

our

> bodies and minds.

>

> Letting go of all fear is very much like death, because much of the

mind

> we developed as children to survive in this harsh world must cease

to

> function, and so it feels as if we are dying through the process of

> enlightenment.

>

> Your other question is about surrender. What is surrender?

>

> Surrender is merely the mental juxtaposition of accepting

everything out

> of our control as it is and not wanting to change it. Surrender is

also

> realizing that we want to change things, realizing that we can't

stop

> ourselves from wanting to change things, but desiring to stop

wanting to

> change things anyway. Surrender is also praying to God to take away

our

> desire to change things. Surrender is also practicing non-reaction.

If we

> feel a fear reaction, or a desire reaction, and we stop our selves

from

> acting on it in the moment, from reacting to it, externally and

hopefully

> even internally, then we are surrendered to God, accepting the

experience

> She has ordained for us. And by doing so we get Her attention and

She pays

> us a visit. If we prevent ourselves from reacting to Her visit, She

gets

> very excited and begins to test us. "Just how non-reactive is this

> Sadakh?" She says and She and Maha Maya conspire to determine just

how

> devoted we are to this peaceful state of mind.

>

> That is the first step to enlightenment, it is the establishment of

the

> first level of Samadhi, establishment of the participants, Maa and

I and

> most importantly Our Working Relationship. When you know She's

here, and

> you feel your relationship to Her, you are aware. Say Hello to

Samadhi,

> your old friend the businessman and invite him to go on a trek with

you.

> He will learn with you about "She Who Takes Away" from the Rishis

you meet

> on your journeys.

>

> Enlightenment is just God adjusting our minds (taking away) enough

so it

> steps out of God's way allowing Her to operate through us directly.

>

> This is of course overly simplified. It is not possible to express

in

> words what I learned on my journey, it is only possible to

summarize by

> drawing a finger painting on a bill board in the shape of an arrow

that

> points to Goddess and says, "Go bow there." I can add a few crude

symbols,

> like an OM or a beautiful tall tree, or an efficient Bumble Bee but

in the

> end its still a finger painting on a sign pointing to Goddess that

says,

> "Go bow there."

>

> The short answers are:

>

> 1. She removes all fears (or from another perspective she makes it

so we

> don't concern ourselves with fears).

> 2. Surrender is trusting God in all things.

>

> OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI