Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Dear Nandaji, thank you for asking this question which, I think, comes up in the life of every practitioner especially due to the nature of the guru/disciple relationship here in the West. I am not really qualified to describe intricacies of yoga (a tradition which is so ancient,rich and complex) but I do know that the traditional guru- chela bond followed a fairly established pattern in India. Usually people would "prepare the body" with hatha yoga, as children they would have learned many of the texts and pujas we are learning now, they would have followed a "pure" lifestyle, been advised, probably, by a family guru and then, at a certain point, been inexorably drawn to go deeper into the tradition, at which point they would have searched for the guru who would help them to move forward. There would always be a very long period of karma yoga and then raja yoga and jnani yoga. That is how it has been explained to me by Indian devotees. Then the Bhakti movement changed everything...turned everything on its head and totally transformed tradition. Many times we in the West start at the end, rather than the beginning...having an amazing meditation experience or a very high experience of the Shakti, an inner communication with Divine Consciousness. Then comes the process of grounding this flash of Grace into our lives. Many times, we find our lives turned upside down and re-arranged and we might struggle to find a context for this longing for God in a culture that is based on desire for "things". This is the GREAT blessing of beings like Maa and Swamiji, who offer: an example of how to live in the world but not of the world, generous and unending support for all effort, compassion and a sense of humor regarding the inevitable floundering, understanding of how challenging it can be to learn how to be both open to life in the world and, at the same time, focused on the Truth that lies beneath and permeates that life...and very practical tools for working with the particular challenges that exist here in the West.Most of all, they can be trusted. There have been long periods in my own life where the main focus of my practice has been karma yoga, service to the Guru. Whether that Guru, in fact, turned out to be not "as advertised", I have realized, doesn't matter all that much in terms of what we are talking about. In the end, it is the attitude of serving something other than one's own small incarnational concerns that lasts. The attitude of serving is what stays with you and here, in this culture, it is quite the opposite of the prevailing "bhav". Mostly the question: sadhana OR seva creates a false boundary where there is none (in my own experience of tussling with this issue). At a particular point, around 15 years ago, I saw clearly that there was nothing I liked better than holing up in my meditation hut, doing puja, meditating, chanting texts and flying up into "sanskrit loka" and I also had to grudgingly admit that there was an element of selfishness and separation in it that evaporated when I did seva. What to do? I did ALOT of Guru-seva. The text chanting and meditation were like a "reward" I would give myself at the end of long periods of Guru Seva (I know this sounds bizarre..but it's true). Eventually, the little boxes I had constructed in my practice began to collapse and I could see that the separation was something my mind had constructed in order to hold onto some sense of privacy and "separation" (the same way I separated "the world" from "god"). What enabled me to hold on through this struggle against my own selfishness and sense of being "something other than" was Bhakti, love of God. For me, this is the "glue" that holds everything together. This has been a very long response....it's a question that I really struggled with for a long time until the idea of "no separation" became a reality in my own life rather than just an "idea" that I knew was right but, secretly, wasn't so sure was accurate. I would say, these days, if you have a chance to be around a GENUINE teacher and do Guru seva, go for it...it's a very rare opportunity! Even if your teacher turns out to be not "genuine" (as was true in my case), the lesson of "no separation" continues to blaze forth and expand. best love to all, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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