Rudri - 9- Chapter 1 - Sanskrit Hymns... A question for the group

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reciting with two syllables and four syllables, with three syllables

and with six syllables, without meter and with meter as has been

indicated to bring you peace.4) In ancient times, the seven rishis

understood the path by which to return to divinity, by consistently

perceiving that the natural order of the mind is united with hymns

and meters. Information on the meters (verse 2) and the seven

Rishis (verse 4) The total number of syllables for each meter (in

the ascending

order) … gayatri (24) , ushnig (28), anushtup (32), brhati (36) ,

pankti(40) , trishtup (44) , and jagati(48) .Of these gayatri

comprises of three lines with 8 syllables per line. All the other

meters are four lines per verse with one fourth the total number of

syllables in each line. So ushnig is for example 28/4=7 syllables to

the line. The Kakup chanda is a little special in that it is composed

of three lines with different lengths (8-12-8) and totaling 28

syllables to the verse. The seven rishis are collectively

known as Saptarishi .They refer to Atri, Gautama, Bharadwaja,

Vasishta, Viswamitra, Jamadagni and Kasyapa Comments The verses

given to us by the Seers are not random words, but they were given to

us when they were in a state of realization, ie when they “perceived

as Ishwara”. By chanting these verses then, we are trying to

perceive as the Rishis did, or as Swamiji says “putting ourselves in

the mind of the

Rishis”. The continued chanting of these verses will draw us into the

same vibrations as the Seers so that we too become the Rishis and

experience our divinity. Question for the group: What makes these

hymns special – is it the Sanskrit language and its meters or the

fact that these hymns were given by realized seers. I look forward to

hearing your well reasoned and intuitive understanding. Please share

your understanding and insights on these verses and this questionJai

Rudra Nanda

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, Nanda <chandimaakijai> wrote:

> Question for the group: What makes these hymns special – is it the

Sanskrit language and its meters or the fact that these hymns were

given by realized seers.

 

Nanda,

Thank you for leading this class. I have enjoyed the posts.

 

I think that the hymns are as they are because they were given by/came

through realized seers, but it is the sounds/vibration of the Sanskrit

syllables and meters/rhythm of the mantras that make them so special

and effective.

 

Om Shanti,

Sadhu Maa

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OM NAMAH SIVAYA

 

i also think the other thing that makes the these sanskrit hymns,

and/or mantras in general, so special is that they have gained a

incredible amount of energy because they have been repeated with

intent and faith by millions of people for thousands of years. and

in my not so expert opinion this increases the potency of mantras

exponentially. look at words in our English language, unfortunately

mostly negative examples, and see this affect ie. racial slurs,

profanity, etc. they gain power the more they're used. -2 cents

 

JAI MAA

 

, "sadumaa" <sadumaa> wrote:

>

> , Nanda <chandimaakijai>

wrote:

> > Question for the group: What makes these hymns special – is

it the

> Sanskrit language and its meters or the fact that these hymns were

> given by realized seers.

>

> Nanda,

> Thank you for leading this class. I have enjoyed the posts.

>

> I think that the hymns are as they are because they were given

by/came

> through realized seers, but it is the sounds/vibration of the

Sanskrit

> syllables and meters/rhythm of the mantras that make them so

special

> and effective.

>

> Om Shanti,

> Sadhu Maa

>

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Nanda wrote:

 

"Question for the group: What makes these hymns special – is it the

Sanskrit language and its meters or the fact that these hymns were

given by realized seers.

>

>

 

Namaste Nanda,

 

Thanks for the question.

 

I think that the divine origin, the sanskrit language and the fact

that the hymns were given through realized beings make them special.

Their effectiveness comes in the vibrations, rhythm and consistency.

Verse "4" of this Chapter 1 says -

 

"In ancient times, the seven rishis understood the path by which to

return to divinity, by consistently perceiving that the natural order

of the mind is united with hymns and meters."

 

Though the hymns are special without application they have no effect.

 

 

Pranams

Kalia

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Hi

 

Indian tradition states that Sanskrt has an innate (magical) power.

This refers especially to the tantric tradition. Anybody REALLY

interested in this subject may read the work by the eminent indologist

André Padoux: "Vac, The Concept of the Word in Selected Hindu Tantras".

His main reference are the works of the tantric masters of the Trika

System (Kashmir Shaivism), for example Abhinavagupta.

So, people who do not want only to believe what is maintained about

the power of Sanskrt but prefer to put put some effort into research

should read this work - very enlightening.

 

Another remark. Latin has been used for 2000 years now as the language

of the roman catholic church. I mean, 2000 years surely doesn't

compare to the majesty of the indian tradition of many thousands of

years where Sanskrt has been formed into a divinely inspired language.

Still - 2000 years is something for a language beeing in constant use

in liturgical rituals. But I have never heard anybody being awakened

by this language.

 

Two conclusions. Sanskrt really is something very, very special or

what is said about it is pure myth.

Take your choice.

 

Best

 

D