transcendental economics - Kind Attn Bill and Tanmaya

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Dear Bill and Tanmaya,

 

JAI MAA

 

Can you please take this specific thread offline between the two of

you. Thank you and God Bless.

 

Looking forward to hearing more from you on other topics.

With best wishes

Nanda

 

 

, Bill Smith <biggerblat>

wrote:

>

> I think we are getting confused here. I was agreeing with what a

previous post was saying.

>

> Bill

> Dear Bill,

>

> Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected. I'm finding

that

> e-mail is a very inadaquate means of communication. The unknowns

are

> almost the whole of it. I do much better speaking to another in

person.

>

> By the way, its great to meet you on line, even with its

limitations.

>

> I'm unclear about your earlier note describing your truly heroic

rise

> out a dark corner of maya. What I do not understand is your

reference

> to the attempt to redeem others being a mistake, on the one

hand, and

> your sincerity, sensitivity, and obvious aptitude for doing just

that

> on the other. I would be grateful if you would unconfuse me on

this

> seeming contradiction.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Tanmaya

>

, Bill Smith <biggerblat>

wrote:

> >

> > I was referring to the understanding of the principles.

> >

> > ty_maa <ds.james@c...> wrote:

> > Dear Bill,

> >

> > Its true that it can take a long time to understand the

principles

> > involved in unfamiliar metaphysical truths, but it can take

little or

> > no time to apply them and get an immediate result. It can

take a

> > while to understand how the molectular structure of a

medicine impacts

> > on the body to have the healing result it does, but very

little to

> > take the medicine and get the benefit. What it does take is

faith,

> > and the courage to experiment.

> >

> > The subject is larger than the immediate context. People

have been

> > reciting the litany of "it takes a long time" for a long

time, and my

> > observation has been that it is usually a euphemism for "yes,

> but---".

> > Saint Agustine used to pray as a young man in old

Carthage, "Lord,

> > give me celibacy---but not yet".

> >

> > Personally, I don't believe that we have a long time

anymore. The

> > world is on fire, and the fire is speading rapidly. Its the

perfect

> > time for us all to now apply what we have all known for a

long time.

> >

> > I don't think that I would want it to be any other way; some

people

> > like to live on an earthquake fault because its very hard to

go to

> > sleep there. Its time for the spiritual heros to wake up

show what can

> > indeed be done when one has faith in one's heart and courage

in ones

> > acts.

> >

> > As Swami Vivekananda repeated so often, "Arise, awake, and

stop not

> > till the goal is reached".

> >

> > Yours in the Lord,

> >

> > Tanmaya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Bill Smith

<biggerblat>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes. Put very simply, "If you want love, you have to give

it away."

> > This holds true of everything in life, but it takes a very

long time

> > to realize it.

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > ty_maa <ds.james@c...> wrote:

> > > Dear Linda,

> > >

> > > This reply is to you, but I want to address it also to

the

> group at

> > > large because I believe it contains something of general

value

> that

> > > others may profit from as well. Your sorrows are real,

and they

> > > touched me deeply. And they reminded me of a great

lession that I

> > > learned from an old man whom I knew briefly, shortly

before he

> died.

> > >

> > > The gentleman I'm speaking of was born in New York, and

while

> he was

> > > still in his teens he had a spontaneous spiritual

awakening. The

> > > Indian saint Paramahamsa Yogananda was working in the

U.S. at that

> > > time, and somehow the boy found his way to him.

Yogananda

> sent him to

> > > the great South Indian jnani Ramama Maharshi. The

Maharishi

> told him

> > > that he had had the highest possible spiritual

realization and

> that

> > > there was nothing else he could teach him. The boy

stayed at

> > > Maharshi's ashram for a time, and then made his way back

to

> the U.S.

> > > where he lived a very simple and unassuming life.

> > >

> > > Brahmajnanis are supposed to be unconcerned with the

relative

> world,

> > > but I found this man to be profoundly compassionate. At

that

> time, I

> > > was at the bottom of the economic ladder; I was living

on food

> stamps

> > > to survive, and prospects were zero. One day the old man

> said, "If

> > > someone is in financial need, the most effective thing

he can

> do to

> > > get out of it is to borrow some money from someone, and

then

> give it

> > > all away to others who are in even greater need than

himself".

> > > Another thing he said was, "The real meaning of money is

love;

> money

> > > is love."

> > >

> > > These were things I hadn't learned in school, so I had to

> think about

> > > them for a while. I am still thinking about them, even

as

> times have

> > > become much better financially.

> > >

> > > I believe there is truth in these statements. I also

believe that

> > > they are needed now. The world is on fire. Millions and

> millions of

> > > people are living is the upmost material want. And at

least

> that many

> > > are suffering from emotional poverty: lovelessness,

> hopelessness and

> > > despair.

> > >

> > > If I were bold enough to follow the advice of my friend

the

> old man,

> > > and I felt a profound lack, either material of

emotional, I

> would take

> > > what I had, or could borrow, and I would start giving it

away to

> > > others who had even less than I.

> > >

> > > The scriptures say that God dwells in our hearts, and

that God is

> > > Infinite, Unconditional Love. Many of us have tried all

of

> our lives

> > > to get love--- through meditation, prayer, and worship. I

> don't know

> > > how many of us have tried to just give love, without

even caring

> > > whether it comes back to us or not. Maybe that is the

secret;

> maybe

> > > that is what the world is waiting for. Maybe that would

put

> out the

> > > fire.

> > >

> > > All we can do is to make the experiment.

> > >

> > > With deep affection,

> > >

> > > Tanmaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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