Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Vinod wrote: I believe that all religions are false and manmade.What is the simple truth is that the mother nature is the cosmic force and in one way or the other we pray that force.This divine force energises each atom in this cosmos.As long as the life force is there we are alive otherwise we kinbd of die to be reborn.In fact there is never any death. My first God is our Sun as our eternal father and mother earth is our eternal mother. And chanting Gyatrimantra is all you need to have.You can go to any hindutemple to get the puja viddhi. Bible and Koran are way to confing but however I can challenge anyone to bring God to have lunch with me and they cannot. Dear Vinod ~ Wow! Somehow, this kind of knocked my socks off. I'm not going to challenge your comments about religion and whether or not the Gayatri mantra is all we need (and I have the Beatles singing it in the background of my head), and there aren't any Hindu temples where I live. But if you've missed having lunch with God, or breakfast, or dinner, or walks, then, wow!, you've missed a lot. God is the very air we breath; the very earth we walk upon, the very food we eat, the very loved ones who fill our lives, even those in our lives who bring us challenges. God/dess is in everything, everywhere. How have you managed to miss it? Jai Maa , Jai Swamiji ~ Linda P.S. Of course, this doesn't even get into the discussion of avatars, but I believe that there are two very significant ones who are the reason we have come together in this digest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Vinod wrote: ....Regarding having seen or met the God,I think that will be the utmost experience.Even though you are right about God being everywhere and in everthing and every event is due to him.But I (as a scientist myself) should always ask and forward questions to you and Sriswamiji and Shreemaa. for thoughtful answers and my own enlightenment... Dear Vinod ~ please forgive me if my post seemed to run over what you were trying to say. Your sadhana is amazing; if I could achieve half that, I would feel I had come very far indeed. Now that you have identified yourself as a scientist, I understand a bit more your statement about wanting someone to bring God to you for a luncheon. Still, as a scientist, you know there are many things we cannot see with the naked eye, and even some things that are postulated scientific beliefs for which there is no demonstrable proof. In this way, science expands, and we are at a point where, for some time, science and spirituality have been coming closer and closer to one another. I remember very well the first time that I read that a table, which seems very solid, is mostly empty space. I realize my statement was somewhat global, yet it was based in my own experience. I remember vividly the first times I felt the presence of the Sacred. I would be outside, walking around, maybe on the way to do an errand. Suddenly, I would be struck, almost as if by lightening, although the experience, though dramatic, was much more subtle than that. I could do nothing but stop and allow it to occur. I would feel as if the top of my head opened up, in a kind of V shape, and I could feel Sacred Energy pouring into me, mingling with my own energies, gross, causal and subtle (of course, I didn't know those concepts at the time). I would feel a kind of tingling all through my body. The experience is hard to describe; but each time, after it was over, I felt an overwhelming sense of gratitude and connectedness. Of course, there are some who might simply say I was just nuts. : ) Yet I've had to many similar experiences, which are all treasures to me, to dismiss them as the workings of my personal psychology, and I've never doubted any of them. However, I am an artist, so prone to direct, and what I would also call, aesthetic, sacred experience. For me the sacred is inherently aesthetic, and perhaps this is why so many artists have attempted to put the indescribable on canvas, or to song, or to words in poetry. In any case, there is room here, and in the heart of the Guru and the God/dess, for all of us ~ scientists, artists, skeptics, the merely curious, the supremely devout ... and God/dess will speak to each of us, or come to lunch, in Her own way and time. Jai Maa , Jai Swamiji ~ Linda P.S. I seem to remember a story within the greater story of the Ramayana. It was about a woman who every day would go out and sweep the walkway to her little home, put flowers on the path ... day after day after day. Someone once asked her why she was doing this. She said something like, "because I never know when God may come to call." And one day God did come, in the form of a derelict man, whom she invited in, fed, treated like a king, and then was shown His true nature. Isn't there a similar story in the Christian lexicon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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