to Tanmaya, Kumari and Ruchi- Discussion of daily message on work

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Dear Tanmaya, Kumari and Ruchi,

 

I'm very grateful this problem is being discussed, because I am still

struggling with negative emotions in that area myself. And the

suggestions made by Kumari and Tanmaya are very helpful. As chanting

the entire Chandi still takes me about four and a half hours, this is

not something I am able to do every day. But perhaps it would be

helpful to select a few verses and use these as a 'shortcut' for

helping us to remember to offer all our negativities to our Divine

Mother for transmutation. So that every time we feel anger or sadness

rising, we could throw these in the fire of these few (or even one)

verse of the Chandi, in the faith that She will come whenever

remembered with devotion. Another idea I'd like to add is one I found

in a book by Ram Dass I was reading: he says that if you are having

problems recognizing divinity in a person (or, in other words, if you

can't stand the sight of them:)), you could benefit from putting a

picture of this person on your puja table, right next to the pictures

which represent divinity to you. From my own initial reaction to this

suggestion (which is: I don't want HER face looking out at me amongst

all my beautiful holy pictures) I get the feeling that this just might

help me to go beyond appearances. A while ago, I mentioned that I had

started adding this persons name as a recipient in my daily sankalpa,

and even though it is still difficult sometimes, this has helped me to

open my heart more to this person. As Ram Dass' guru said: 'Whatever

else you do with another human being, never put them out of your

heart', and that is, as I see it, the most important. May we awaken to

the wisdom that our hearts are large enough to contain the universe,

 

with love,

Henny

 

 

 

 

, "ty_maa" <ds.james wrote:

>

>

> Dear Ruchi,

>

> It has been said, by those who are holy enough to know, that the

> greatest and most effective tapas that human beings have, whether in

an

> ashram or in the worldly world, is simply to get along well

together.

>

> We have three powerful tools in our spiritual tool-chest. Kumari

> eloquently described the first. That is, to relate to others, not as

> body, mind or ego, but as the living divine reality which indwells

every

> human being. The mood of that relationship then becomes one of

genuine

> worship of the divine in man, instead of strife and competition as

egos

> battle for predominance.

>

> A second tool is the Chandi. About the time you were writing the

post

> below, Kumari, through no fault of her own, encountered two very

> threatening and incorrigible situations at her work. With commute

> added, her job keeps her away from before sunrise till well after

> sunset, so someone else read the Chandi in her behalf, and by the

next

> day both situations had turned around, one in remarkable ways by a

> complete reversal, and the other was softened considerably.

>

> The Mother promises in the Chandi that its reading is the best way

to

> neutralize oppressive people in high positions, and to bring harmony

to

> relationships of all kinds.

>

> The third tool is nothing more than to recognize when an unpleasent

> situation is really a blessing in disguise. Divine Providence

sometimes

> presents those of us, who can't go to India and climb mountains,

with

> the opportunity to do real serious and effective tapas at home. It

has

> been said by those same holy people who should know, that to endure

> with titiksha---that is, with evenness of mind, and with no desire

to

> redress---the oppression of other people in positions of power, and

who

> can make our life miserable, is the most effective tapas of all, and

can

> yield great spiritual benifits.

>

> There are no doubt many other wonderful spiritual tools, which

others

> can share, but these are three that we know.

>

> Most affectionately,

>

> Tanmaya

>

>

>

> , "ruchibabbar" <ruchibabbar@>

> wrote:

> >

> > -This is a very interesting discussion and so timely.

> > At my work I am dealing with a manager who is unreasonable and

mean.

> > She is a person I have to deal with everyday. I do not like some

of

> > the assumptions she makes about me and yet I am spending 8-9 hours

> > everyday in this work environment. I keep wondering about what to

do

> > about it. How do you bring God into a situation like this.

> >

> > Ruchi

> >

> > -- In , "muktimaa" muktimaa@ wrote:

> > >

> > > , "ty_maa" <ds.james@> wrote:

> > >

> > > "My work environment is my puja room, and those I come in daily

> > > contact

> > > with are the murtis which I serve as deities in which ever way

is

> > > appropriate. I am glad to have the opportunity to serve."

> > >

> > > Jai Maa, beloved Kumariji!

> > > This is the Bhava we should all aspire to! Expanding our Puja

Rooms

> > > until it includes the whole world, and every being we come

across

> > is

> > > a beautiful murti that we are being given the opportunity and

> > > privilege to serve.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Thakur Ramakrishna Deva!

> > > muktimaa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sadhu Maa,

> > > >

> > > > I work in the world at a job which is demanding and

challenging.

> > > The

> > > > attitude that I have learned to embrace in my work environment

is

> > to

> > > > serve God in mankind.

> > > >

> > > > I believe that it doesn't matter what environment we serve in,

> > > whether

> > > > spiritual or otherwise, our mind is the instrument that has to

be

> > > > purified. The mind can be our friend or enemy. If we

spiritualize

> > > our

> > > > everyday life by serving God in humanity, the mind becomes our

> > > friend.

> > > >

> > > > My work environment is my puja room, and those I come in daily

> > > contact

> > > > with are the murtis which I serve as deities in which ever way

is

> > > > appropriate. I am glad to have the opportunity to serve.

> > > >

> > > > What I would like to also say is that it really doesn't matter

> > what

> > > we

> > > > do. it's all in the mind.

> > > >

> > > > I believe that if you have God given talents, it is better to

use

> > > > those talents. Desires and egos will appear even in the most

> > menial

> > > > work. Sadhana is the art of spiritualizing our daily life

> > whatever

> > > it

> > > > may be.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > With Love,

> > > > Kumari

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "sadumaa" <sadumaa@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > The quote said:

> > > > > "I think that I am acting selflessly, but I actually have

lots

> > of

> > > > > desires." If you are pursuing name, gain, and fame, you

cannot

> > > be free

> > > > > from desire.: Ramakrishna

> > > > >

> > > > > I often struggle with this issue in that I do not WANT to be

> > > working in

> > > > > the world, at least that is what I think, but life

circumstance

> > > put me

> > > > > here. It seems that if we are working in the world we should

> > try

> > > to do

> > > > > a good job. Should I not take career paths that might bring

> > name,

> > > gain,

> > > > > etc.? Should I forfeit use of my God given talents in favor

of

> > an

> > > > > annonymous job doing construction, or landscaping or

something

> > > > > else...all great jobs but perhaps not what I would be best

at.

> > Is

> > > this

> > > > > making sense? I am familiar with karma yoga, but still find

> > this

> > > whole

> > > > > issue challenging...how to work in the world well but not

get

> > > caught up

> > > > > in the worldly issues...especially when some are required on

> > the

> > > job.

> > > > >

> > > > > Others have thoughts?

> > > > > Sadhu Maa

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Dear Tanmaya,

Kumari and Ruchi,I'm very grateful this problem is being discussed,

because I am still struggling with negative emotions in that area

myself. And the suggestions made by Kumari and Tanmaya are very

helpful. As chanting the entire Chandi still takes me about four and

a half hours, this is not something I am able to do every day. But

perhaps it would be helpful to select a few verses and use these as a

'shortcut' for helping us to remember to offer all our negativities to

our Divine Mother for transmutation. So that every time we feel anger

or sadness rising, we could throw these in the fire of these few (or

even one) verse of the Chandi, in the faith that She will come

whenever remembered with devotion. Another idea I'd like to add is

one I found in a book by Ram Dass I was reading: he says that if you

are having problems recognizing divinity in a person

(or, in other words, if you can't stand the sight of them:)), you

could benefit from putting a picture of this person on your puja

table, right next to the pictures which represent divinity to you.

>From my own initial reaction to this suggestion (which is: I don't

want HER face looking out at me amongst all my beautiful holy

pictures) I get the feeling that this just might help me to go beyond

appearances. A while ago, I mentioned that I had started adding this

persons name as a recipient in my daily sankalpa, and even though it

is still difficult sometimes, this has helped me to open my heart

more to this person. As Ram Dass' guru said: 'Whatever else you do

with another human being, never put them out of your heart', and that

is, as I see it, the most important. May we awaken to the wisdom that

our hearts are large enough to contain the universe,with love,Henny

,

"ty_maa" <ds.james wrote:>> > Dear Ruchi,> > It has been said, by

those who are holy enough to know, that the> greatest and most

effective tapas that human beings have, whether in an> ashram or in

the worldly world, is simply to get along well together.> > We have

three powerful tools in our spiritual tool-chest. Kumari> eloquently

described the first. That is, to relate to others, not as> body, mind

or ego, but as the living divine reality which indwells every> human

being. The mood of that relationship then becomes one of genuine>

worship of the divine in man, instead of strife and competition as

egos> battle for predominance.> > A second tool is the Chandi. About

the time you were writing the post> below, Kumari, through no fault of

her own, encountered two very> threatening and incorrigible situations

at her

work. With commute> added, her job keeps her away from before sunrise

till well after> sunset, so someone else read the Chandi in her

behalf, and by the next> day both situations had turned around, one

in remarkable ways by a> complete reversal, and the other was

softened considerably.> > The Mother promises in the Chandi that its

reading is the best way to> neutralize oppressive people in high

positions, and to bring harmony to> relationships of all kinds.> >

The third tool is nothing more than to recognize when an unpleasent>

situation is really a blessing in disguise. Divine Providence

sometimes> presents those of us, who can't go to India and climb

mountains, with> the opportunity to do real serious and effective

tapas at home. It has> been said by those same holy people who

should know, that to endure> with

titiksha---that is, with evenness of mind, and with no desire to>

redress---the oppression of other people in positions of power, and

who> can make our life miserable, is the most effective tapas of all,

and can> yield great spiritual benifits.> > There are no doubt many

other wonderful spiritual tools, which others> can share, but these

are three that we know.> > Most affectionately,> > Tanmaya> > > > ---

In , "ruchibabbar" <ruchibabbar@>> wrote:>

>> > -This is a very interesting discussion and so timely.> > At my

work I am dealing with a manager who is unreasonable and mean.> > She

is a person I have to deal with everyday. I do not like some of> > the

assumptions she makes about me and yet I am spending 8-9 hours> >

everyday in this work environment. I keep

wondering about what to do> > about it. How do you bring God into a

situation like this.> >> > Ruchi> >> > -- In

, "muktimaa" muktimaa@ wrote:> > >> > >

, "ty_maa" <ds.james@> wrote:> > >>

> > "My work environment is my puja room, and those I come in daily> >

> contact> > > with are the murtis which I serve as deities in which

ever way is> > > appropriate. I am glad to have the opportunity to

serve."> > >> > > Jai Maa, beloved Kumariji!> > > This is the Bhava

we should all aspire to! Expanding our Puja Rooms> > > until it

includes the whole world, and every being we come across> > is> > > a

beautiful murti that we are being given the opportunity and> > >

privilege to

serve.> > >> > > Jai Maa! Jai Swamiji! Jai Thakur Ramakrishna Deva!> >

> muktimaa> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >

Dear Sadhu Maa,> > > >> > > > I work in the world at a job which is

demanding and challenging.> > > The> > > > attitude that I have

learned to embrace in my work environment is> > to> > > > serve God

in mankind.> > > >> > > > I believe that it doesn't matter what

environment we serve in,> > > whether> > > > spiritual or otherwise,

our mind is the instrument that has to be> > > > purified. The mind

can be our friend or enemy. If we spiritualize> > >

our> > > > everyday life by serving God in humanity, the mind becomes

our> > > friend.> > > >> > > > My work environment is my puja room,

and those I come in daily> > > contact> > > > with are the murtis

which I serve as deities in which ever way is> > > > appropriate. I

am glad to have the opportunity to serve.> > > >> > > > What I would

like to also say is that it really doesn't matter> > what> > > we> >

> > do. it's all in the mind.> > > >> > > > I believe that if you

have God given talents, it is better to use> > > > those talents.

Desires and egos will appear even in the most> > menial> > > > work.

Sadhana is the art of spiritualizing our daily life> > whatever> > >

it> > > > may

be.> > > >> > > >> > > > With Love,> > > > Kumari> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > > , "sadumaa"

<sadumaa@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > The quote said:> > > > > "I think

that I am acting selflessly, but I actually have lots> > of> > > > >

desires." If you are pursuing name, gain, and fame, you cannot> > >

be free> > > > > from desire.: Ramakrishna> > > > >> > > > > I often

struggle with this issue in that I do not WANT to be> > > working in>

> > > > the world, at least that is what I think, but life

circumstance> > > put me> > > > > here. It seems that if we are

working in the world we should> > try> > > to do> > > > > a good job.

Should I not take career paths that might bring> > name,> > > gain,>

> > > > etc.? Should I forfeit use of my God given talents in favor

of> > an> > > > > annonymous job doing construction, or landscaping

or something> > > > > else...all great jobs but perhaps not what I

would be best at.> > Is> > > this> > > > > making sense? I am

familiar with karma yoga, but still find> > this> > > whole> > > > >

issue challenging...how to work in the world well but not get> > >

caught up> > > > > in the worldly issues...especially when some are

required on> > the> > > job.> > > > >> > > > > Others have

thoughts?> > > > > Sadhu Maa> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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