Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 sadhvi, ok if i comment? this is a topic of interest to me. this question is a very good one. non-reactivity as a constant condition, maintained over the lifetime of a human being, is a goal, or an ideal. we can attain this if we are in a coma, but we don't want that. we want a state of relative balance. we don't want to over-react. we don't want the suffering of the instant karma, or the pain of the emotions themselves at the moment of reaction -- fear, anger, etc. when situations are within the scope of our management ... or we have emotional distance ... then we say, we don't react, we respond. we have some slack to operate. but non-reaction [as opposed to being responsive] is related, but a different state. when you are in a samadhi of a certain order, everything appears as if it is at a distance. the mind is very, very quiet. things happen and you don't care. you feel everything, but you don't get "hurt." this is also called dispassion, but i prefer less fancy words. "i don't care." there is no anger in that. god or the infinite being is making it happen. i am not at all moved, although, i feel great movement within myself. in fact, i don't even think in terms of myself, or the word "I" ... things are only happening. beyond that, things don't even appear to be happening, even though there is apparent movement. there is no sense of the normal boundaries and sense of self traveling in social or physical space. people achieve this as a state that arrives and fades, as any state must do. there are also claims of this as a permanent state. by permanent if we look at the span of a human life, we mean a short blip of time. it is very interesting to have this as a goal, as opposed to a status. i have observed people that claimed it then failed miserably, and often, publicly. there is also a mystical order of expression. "i am in a permanent state." this might mean, i am in a state beyond time, so i cannot express myself with temporal language, so i speak in ultimates. this unfortunately can be misleading to the earth-bound ones. "there is no time." this is factually true, as time is an invention. but today i experience that, and tomorrow i am in a rush. why? i must get to work, so i can make money, because without it, i am afraid i will die. we can socialize reality, but that is not why we are on this quest. any understanding is subject to change. some have claimed a permanent understanding, either revealing our own misunderstanding, or seeking to control others via a sort of spiritual intimidation. "my awareness is permanent and fixed." the briefest self-reflection and we know, this is not true for us. our entire existence is marked by change. our emotions and thoughts are in constant motion, interacting with this world [which some say is only thought as well.] the point is: motion. we move. if it is abrupt, sudden, even violent, or dark, then we call it a reaction. our bodies and minds will indeed react as long as we are alive, not in intense samadhi, or in a coma, or unconscious. they are of the nature of movement. god, or nature, instinct, or some force, will make us react, even if it is so sudden that it appears to come from outside ourselves. does this mean we failed in our efforts to not-react, or that we are learning at a broader level? what do put attention on? now, what if i react? do i care? planets explode, fires burn, and i am concerned about controlling my reaction. where does the action begin. was it from within myself, or from without? what is the difference? forces pass through the human mind-body-space and beyond, the body appears and disappears. who reacted, things appeared to happen, then they are gone. if there is no who to react, obviously it is beyond volition, it is force itself. the difference in samadhi than the other states is that you are aware, no, you are the emanation of awareness. all you see is your own expression. interestingly, in the silence we see there is even more movement, it is only moving at a completely different level, many, many events are occurring simultaneously. we can minimize reactions, but we serve ourselves by keeping in mind, this is a relative degree of growth. we accept it, we want it, but we don't rely on it, we are aware this life is mysterious and vast. there is no volume, there are no others, this is not a predictable universe beyond a very limited range. the state of "knowledge" is not information, it is more like, simply no questions, complete satisfaction, relying on un-owned spiritual power alone, without physical comfort. as swamiji said, we need all the help we can get. non-reactive responses are a consequence of everything from getting your thoughts and life in order, reducing negative karmic effects, to getting a decent nights rest. we can get that, we need to chip away at it with dedication like a fine art. we cannot however claim it, or rely on any permanence. and there are times when non-reaction is not the highest solution, even, despite the models we have accepted. any state can slip and slide. for example, non-reaction can slide into laziness or weakness. vigilance is required. there is truly no answer, there are only your deepening questions and your commitment to your highest ideal, which itself, can, and indeed should, evolve, as your expressive and comprehending mind catches up to your spiritual awareness. 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