Guest guest Posted March 22, 2006 Report Share Posted March 22, 2006 Dear Holy Family, In India, to be an acharya, a great spiritual savant, and to qualify to expound the scriptures, it has been traditional, and manditory, to write a spiritual commentary on each of the three great treasures of Indian wisdom, the Bhagavad Gita, the Brahma sutras, and the Upanisads. For centuries now the three authoritative acharyas, which have come to be the accepted and final spokesmen for what all the scriptures really say, are: Madhva-acharya, who maintains that all the scriptures teach "dvaita" or dualism - ie, that God and the Soul are eternally separate and different in substance or quality; Ramanuja-acharya, who interprets every scriptual line as teaching Vashishta-advaita,or qualified non-dualism - ie,that God and the Soul are basically of the same substance, but differ infinitely is magnitude, similar to a fire and the sparks flying out of it, or to the ocean and the drops of spray; and, lastly, Shankara-acharya, the great exponent of Advaita or non-dualism, which declares that God and the Soul are the same, that Brahmajnana and Atmajnana are one and the same realization and Truth. In India, these three systems have existed in watertight compartments, and the polarization has been extreme. It has always seemed highly evokative to me that the traditional forms of each of the acharyas in statue and painting show Madhva, who has to work by far the hardest, in order to twist all the Hindu scriptures into a uniformly dualistic interpretation, is portrayed as a huge gentleman, with bulging muscles, like a sumo wrestler. Ramanuja, who has an easier time of it, that is, he doesn't have to torture the texts quiet as much, is pictured as of normal stature; while Shankara, who has the easiest job, because more of the scriptures are advaitic than not, is always shown as a wispy young boy. These murties of the great acharyas are perhaps also, albeit it unconsciously, indicating that Madva's interpretation is perhaps the grossest, Ramanaja's subtler, and Shankara's the most subtle. In the gross universe, everything is separate, matter can't occupy the same space as other matter; in the subtle, sukshma, realm, things merge more easily, and in that most subtle, transcendental Reality, all is One. Be that as it may, read by themselves, the Indian scriptures, the Sanatana Dharma, contain statements and teachings expressing each of these points of view. Nevertheless, India has been fighting - and I mean fighting - over who is right for centuries, and the sheer waste of it all is a great loss. I really shudder to think that these battles might be transferred to the West where we are a lot more serious about fighting than India has been---and it need not be. Swami Vivekananda, was deputed to carry his great Guru's message to the world at large by Sri Ramakrishna Himself, who touched Narendra (S.V.) at the end of His life, and said that He had thus transferred all His power to Him and that He was Himself now just a simple fakir (mendicant), and that, with that immense power, Vivekananda "would do great good to the world", and that "Narendra will teach others" At one point in his teaching work, Vivekananda received a letter from a devotee asking about the three interpretations of Reality, expounded by the traditional Acharyas, and in his answer Vivekananda made one of the most revealing statements about his teaching work that we have on record. He said that when one begins spiritual life, one is materialistic in orientation, and naturally, and inevitably, thinks of God as separate, and distant from oneself. As one progresses, one's understanding becomes more purified, and one then thinks that the soul is of the same divine substance as God, only infinitely smaller and distant. But as one continues to progress, one reaches a point of profound realization: that God and the Soul are one, and of the same Essence, Reality and Truth. Swami Vivekananda continued on to say that each of these points of view are natural stages through which everyone must pass on the single path to the Truth. He further said that "It was left to me (by his guru Sri Ramakrishna) to teach this Truth to the world". It is my sincere and heartfelt prayer that we may all come to understand this great teaching, that we are all works in progress, that no-one is a finished product; that not one of us is able to make a statement of final truth about God or the Soul, and thereby judge another, be he far ahead of us, or far behind; that we are all sojourners, albeit each at different points on the single path to God. With profound love to each one who has taken up this greatest work that any human being can pursue, Tanmaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 , "ty_maa" <ds.james wrote: >Belated response to your sharing of this wisdom, Tanmayananda- Thank You!- Gautam > > Dear Holy Family, > > In India, to be an acharya, a great spiritual savant, and to qualify > to expound the scriptures, it has been traditional, and manditory, to > write a spiritual commentary on each of the three great treasures of > Indian wisdom, the Bhagavad Gita, the Brahma sutras, and the Upanisads. > > For centuries now the three authoritative acharyas, which have come to > be the accepted and final spokesmen for what all the scriptures really > say, are: Madhva-acharya, who maintains that all the scriptures teach > "dvaita" or dualism - ie, that God and the Soul are eternally separate > and different in substance or quality; Ramanuja-acharya, who > interprets every scriptual line as teaching Vashishta-advaita,or > qualified non-dualism - ie,that God and the Soul are basically of the > same substance, but differ infinitely is magnitude, similar to a fire > and the sparks flying out of it, or to the ocean and the drops of > spray; and, lastly, Shankara-acharya, the great exponent of Advaita or > non-dualism, which declares that God and the Soul are the same, that > Brahmajnana and Atmajnana are one and the same realization and Truth. > > In India, these three systems have existed in watertight compartments, > and the polarization has been extreme. > > It has always seemed highly evokative to me that the traditional forms > of each of the acharyas in statue and painting show Madhva, who has to > work by far the hardest, in order to twist all the Hindu scriptures > into a uniformly dualistic interpretation, is portrayed as a huge > gentleman, with bulging muscles, like a sumo wrestler. Ramanuja, who > has an easier time of it, that is, he doesn't have to torture the > texts quiet as much, is pictured as of normal stature; while Shankara, > who has the easiest job, because more of the scriptures are advaitic > than not, is always shown as a wispy young boy. > > These murties of the great acharyas are perhaps also, albeit it > unconsciously, indicating that Madva's interpretation is perhaps the > grossest, Ramanaja's subtler, and Shankara's the most subtle. In the > gross universe, everything is separate, matter can't occupy the same > space as other matter; in the subtle, sukshma, realm, things merge > more easily, and in that most subtle, transcendental Reality, all is One. > > Be that as it may, read by themselves, the Indian scriptures, the > Sanatana Dharma, contain statements and teachings expressing each of > these points of view. > > Nevertheless, India has been fighting - and I mean fighting - over who > is right for centuries, and the sheer waste of it all is a great loss. > > I really shudder to think that these battles might be transferred to > the West where we are a lot more serious about fighting than India has > been---and it need not be. > > Swami Vivekananda, was deputed to carry his great Guru's message to > the world at large by Sri Ramakrishna Himself, who touched Narendra > (S.V.) at the end of His life, and said that He had thus transferred > all His power to Him and that He was Himself now just a simple fakir > (mendicant), and that, with that immense power, Vivekananda "would do > great good to the world", and that "Narendra will teach others" > > At one point in his teaching work, Vivekananda received a letter from > a devotee asking about the three interpretations of Reality, expounded > by the traditional Acharyas, and in his answer Vivekananda made one of > the most revealing statements about his teaching work that we have on > record. > > He said that when one begins spiritual life, one is materialistic in > orientation, and naturally, and inevitably, thinks of God as separate, > and distant from oneself. As one progresses, one's understanding > becomes more purified, and one then thinks that the soul is of the > same divine substance as God, only infinitely smaller and distant. But > as one continues to progress, one reaches a point of profound > realization: that God and the Soul are one, and of the same Essence, > Reality and Truth. > > Swami Vivekananda continued on to say that each of these points of > view are natural stages through which everyone must pass on the single > path to the Truth. He further said that "It was left to me (by his > guru Sri Ramakrishna) to teach this Truth to the world". > > It is my sincere and heartfelt prayer that we may all come to > understand this great teaching, that we are all works in progress, > that no-one is a finished product; that not one of us is able to make > a statement of final truth about God or the Soul, and thereby judge > another, be he far ahead of us, or far behind; that we are all > sojourners, albeit each at different points on the single path to God. > > With profound love to each one who has taken up this greatest work > that any human being can pursue, > > Tanmaya > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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