Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 OM NAMAH SIVAYA Swamiji didn't say Ram couldn't have enlightened everyone if He was with Sita. how could worldly(external/temporal) circumstances have stopped Ram, when God is internal/eternal? God can't possibly be contingent on any worldly circumstances. wasn't Ram just following His dharma? can't greatness/sacrifice(like God) take many forms? JAI MAA , eric capa <sunsals108 wrote: > > Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > gabilu27 <gabilu27 wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram, > I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling with > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji several > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for His > input. > > Jai Maa, > Gauri > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote: > > > > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa, > > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's bliss > to be in your presense. > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. I > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has been > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is so > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > down. > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > Tejo Ram > > San Diego > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > low rates. > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 and he and Sita lived happily ever after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > gabilu27 <gabilu27 wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram,> I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling with > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji several > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for His > input.> > Jai Maa,> Gauri> > --- In , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote:> >> > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa,> > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's bliss > to be in your presense. > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. I > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has been > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is so > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > down. > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > Tejo Ram> > San Diego> > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > low rates.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 well, Romance, is a good thing. Start Romancing the Beloved and expect the unexpected. As Yogananda's Guru says "God is ever-new joy .... He is seductive beyond thought of competition". Jai Ma! , eric capa <sunsals108 wrote: > > well, like I said, I'm not that enlightened or advanced and like the hollywood endings. Guess I'm a hopeless romantic. > > ecjensen_us <ecjensen_us wrote: OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > Swamiji didn't say Ram couldn't have enlightened everyone if He was > with Sita. how could worldly(external/temporal) circumstances have > stopped Ram, when God is internal/eternal? God can't possibly be > contingent on any worldly circumstances. wasn't Ram just following > His dharma? can't greatness/sacrifice(like God) take many forms? > > JAI MAA > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote: > > > > Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way > I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have > just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever > after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > > > gabilu27 <gabilu27@> wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram, > > I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling > with > > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji > several > > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for > His > > input. > > > > Jai Maa, > > Gauri > > > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa, > > > > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's > bliss > > to be in your presense. > > > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. > I > > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has > been > > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is > so > > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > > down. > > > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > > > Tejo Ram > > > San Diego > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > > low rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 , eric capa <sunsals108 wrote: > > well, like I said, I'm not that enlightened or advanced and like the hollywood endings. Guess I'm a hopeless romantic. "Hope-full" romantic, Ericji! :<) > > ecjensen_us <ecjensen_us wrote: OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > Swamiji didn't say Ram couldn't have enlightened everyone if He was > with Sita. how could worldly(external/temporal) circumstances have > stopped Ram, when God is internal/eternal? God can't possibly be > contingent on any worldly circumstances. wasn't Ram just following > His dharma? can't greatness/sacrifice(like God) take many forms? > > JAI MAA > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote: > > > > Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way > I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have > just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever > after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > > > gabilu27 <gabilu27@> wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram, > > I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling > with > > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji > several > > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for > His > > input. > > > > Jai Maa, > > Gauri > > > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa, > > > > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's > bliss > > to be in your presense. > > > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. > I > > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has > been > > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is > so > > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > > down. > > > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > > > Tejo Ram > > > San Diego > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > > low rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 i'm not enlightened, nor very advanced(though sometimes hopeless and i also like romantic, happy endings. my point was simply that i think being married doesn't affect our chances of becoming advanced or enlightened. there are many examples of enlightened souls, even saints being married. for example, Ramakrishna. so i guess what i am saying is i am going to hold on to the romantic happy ending as i don't believe it is an either/or situation. if i can Love my wife Totally as God, She could very well be the One to show me God. -eric , eric capa <sunsals108 wrote: > > well, like I said, I'm not that enlightened or advanced and like the hollywood endings. Guess I'm a hopeless romantic. > > ecjensen_us <ecjensen_us wrote: OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > Swamiji didn't say Ram couldn't have enlightened everyone if He was > with Sita. how could worldly(external/temporal) circumstances have > stopped Ram, when God is internal/eternal? God can't possibly be > contingent on any worldly circumstances. wasn't Ram just following > His dharma? can't greatness/sacrifice(like God) take many forms? > > JAI MAA > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote: > > > > Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way > I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have > just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever > after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > > > gabilu27 <gabilu27@> wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram, > > I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling > with > > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji > several > > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for > His > > input. > > > > Jai Maa, > > Gauri > > > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa, > > > > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's > bliss > > to be in your presense. > > > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. > I > > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has > been > > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is > so > > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > > down. > > > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > > > Tejo Ram > > > San Diego > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > > low rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 MAA > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote:> >> > Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way > I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have > just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever > after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > > > gabilu27 <gabilu27@> wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram,> > I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling > with > > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji > several > > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for > His > > input.> > > > Jai Maa,> > Gauri> > > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa,> > > > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's > bliss > > to be in your presense. > > > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. > I > > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has > been > > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is > so > > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > > down. > > > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > > > Tejo Ram> > > San Diego> > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > > low rates.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > ! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 circumstances. wasn't Ram just following > His dharma? can't greatness/sacrifice(like God) take many forms? > > JAI MAA > > --- In , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote:> >> > Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way > I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have > just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever > after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > > > gabilu27 <gabilu27@> wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram,> > I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling > with > > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji > several > > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for > His > > input.> > > > Jai Maa,> > Gauri> > > > , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa,> > > > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's > bliss > > to be in your presense. > > > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. > I > > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has > been > > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is > so > > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > > down. > > > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > > > Tejo Ram> > > San Diego> > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > > low rates.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms ofService. > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 God is internal/eternal? God can't possibly be contingent on any worldly circumstances. wasn't Ram just following His dharma? can't greatness/sacrifice(like God) take many forms? JAI MAA --- In , eric capa <sunsals108 wrote:>> Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > gabilu27 <gabilu27 wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram,> I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling with > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji several > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for His > input.> > Jai Maa,> Gauri> > --- In , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote:> >> > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa,> > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's bliss > to be in your presense. > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. I > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has been > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is so > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > down. > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > Tejo Ram> > San Diego> > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > low rates.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.> html banner|**| --> Visit your group "" on the web. To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">OM NAMAH SIVAYASwamiji didn't say Ram couldn't have enlightened everyone if He was with Sita. how could worldly(external/temporal) circumstances have stopped Ram, when God is internal/eternal? God can't possibly be contingent on any worldly circumstances. wasn't Ram just following His dharma? can't greatness/sacrifice(like God) take many forms? JAI MAA , eric capa <sunsals108 wrote:>> Thanks. I think he's answer was very helpful. Maybe not the way I would have liked it to end. Personally, I wish Ram could have just enlightened his people and he and Sita lived happily ever after, but for some reason I feel better after Swamajii's reply. > > gabilu27 <gabilu27 wrote: Namaste Tejo Ram,> I'm glad you asked this question because I have been struggling with > this, too. I have sang the Sundar Kand with Maa and Swamiji several > times, but I didn't know the full story of the Ramayana (i.e. the > ending). When a friend told me about it, I was very confused. I > had meant to ask Swamiji about it, too, so I will be waiting for His > input.> > Jai Maa,> Gauri> > --- In , eric capa <sunsals108@> wrote:> >> > Dear Swamajii and Shree Maa,> > > > Jai! too you both. Thank you so much for the last two > weekends! It was so wonderful to finally meet you both and have > Shree Maa's darshan! after four years! I wish I could spend every > Saturday singing bhajans with you and recieving Shree Maa's > Darshan !! Both your energies are so sweet and wonderful! It's bliss > to be in your presense. > > > > Swamjii, I have had a question though regarding the Ramayana. I > don't understand why Ram does not take Sita back after she has been > rescued and then even after proving her fidelity to Ram. I was > really hoping for a happy ending there!! Maybe I'm a hopeless > romantic, but it just seems like such a let down. There love is so > celebrated and if Ram is so exempleary, why does he not take her > back? How can he even doubt her? It seems so sad and a real let > down. > > > > Love and Pranams to you and Shree Ma! JAI !!!!! > > > > Tejo Ram> > San Diego> > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > low rates.> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.> Visit your group "" on the web. To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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