FW: [Shaivism] Sutras: Dos

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Harsha List,

here is the second forwarded post.

 

 

Gemini [currwamp]

Wednesday, February 03, 1999 11:57 PM

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[shaivism] Re: Sutras: Dos

 

 

"Gemini" <currwamp

 

Madhya,

Ha! Good to see a little levity in the middle of some heavy

understandings...the simplistic innocence(not naivete)of a child and a sense

of humor are two of the greatest attributes of humans...you touched home on

some important issues that do indeedy affect the mainstream of seekers, and

all of us at one time or another. The road traveled to understand that

emotions, intellect, ego, and finite brain activity are merely structures,

not the immutable Self, is a bumpy(probably hilly) one at best. It takes

courage indeed to realize that true realization is not something to

experience, but is actually the only non-experience that will ever be...by

experiencing nothing, Self is found. What the hell is old Marcus talking

about some may ask? Well step right up, take three tries at understanding

for a quarter. If you win here's a cupie doll. The first thing that has to

be done in order to learn what your true nature is, is to learn what your

true nature is not, that is, what is simply a structure or construct to

operate in the world, and what isn't. Fistly, since we know what we do

have--senses, emotions, intellect, ego, finite mind--we must still these in

order to find out what is left. This is simple, not to be confused with

easy...one must first learn the dicipline of the thoughtless state, i.e.

sitting for prolonged periods (15-60minutes) without the endless

mind-chatter of jumbled, non-connected thoughts. This can be accomplished by

learning to focus attention, not thinking, but attention, on a singular

object or thought. For me it was focusing on the Shabda, or inner

sound...once this has been mastered, and by the time it has been, one will

already sense "something else", then the experient can learn to sit in

stillness, without the aid of focused awareness...this is complete mind

stillnes. the mind, and all of its constructs are completely still...what is

found in the individual is what I have found, what Martin has found, and

what Madhya has found...this is where we(humans) are all the same. What is

found is absolutely nothing--no senses, no emotions, no intellect, no ego,

no mind with its associated thoughts...no point of referance, no time, no

space, no thoughts, no elation....only pure, undifferentiated

awareness...absolute bliss(not the emotional bliss of the finite experient,

but rather the universal bliss of Spanda, the action of divine will). This

is unmesa--the realization of divine unity in Self, and simultaneously

nimesa--dissolution of maya and of diversity in the objective world...this

meditative state is known as Samadhi...it is the unspeakable, because it

must be experienced, and not told of...I must point out that if the

individual experient feels elation or awe during this experience, then by

this very statement it is not Samadhi...for the mind is at play...only upon

coming out from under the meditative state can one say "that was the

unbelievable experience". Even memory cannot properly put this into

perspective though, because this would imply a thinking state during the

experience...it is more appropriate to state that the individual experient

brings back "residual awareness" of samadhi...this is why it is called the

only non-experience...there is nothing active of the mind during this state

of pure undifferentiated awareness. As one goes deeper into samadhi, one

realizes that that the divine nature, or divine Self is unceasingly

active--not just a void--this is spanda, the divine creative pulsation...so

it is, that one must let go, must cease all activity, to find true Self.

True Self is the backdrop--the omniscient, all pervading source of

everything...it is then that the experient realizes that all thought states,

be it waking, dreaming, deep sleep, whatever--are all of this never changing

Self...the experient begins to see that all things are only Shakti--Siva's

creative, dynamic aspect--and that there is only Siva--nothing else.

In Truth

Marcus