Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 "Jerry M. Katz" umbada Snip....snip....... So how does one generate commitment? It is done, in my opinion, by welcoming all who have any interest at all in realization, even if that interest is 'against' realization; by fostering an individual's slightest intuition of the nondual. It is done through acceptance of anyone and everyone who has even an inkling of nondual intuition. It is done by demonstrating that commitment is necessary, absolutely required. It is done by creating an atmosphere in which it is realized that there is nothing else in this life to do other than 'become' realized. That is something to think about. Jerry Harsha: Thanks Jerryji Maharaj for stating it eloquently. All the great sages and saints whether leading the life of an ascetic or that of a householder (or perhaps something in between : - ) remind us to constantly keep the goal of life in mind and at Heart until We See We Are the Goal and The Heart. Sri Dirk Maharaj points beautifully at this and states, "The quality of life that you talk about means for me relaxing enough to take in the mystery. IMO going on a spiritual quest is always worthwhile. There are many great teachers and great teachings. Undertaking this journey is a way of opening to the universe. To show up and be willing in an outer relationship is an acknowledgement of our inner relationship - our journey to a Self that was never separate. When you are with a great teacher, the words that are spoken are almost irrelevant." Harsha: We are never away from the Great Teacher and it is wonderful to see the reflections of the Great Teacher "outside" in other teachers. And we have wonderful Souls here who are one with us in this space. Which reminds me that Sri Kurt Keutzer Maharaj has accepted our invitation to join the . For that we are truly grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 Shri Madhya Nandi says; Stop looking for anything. Stop thinking about anything. Just practice. There is no enlightenment but practice. There is no God but practice. Just meditate. Just chant God's name. Just sing Kirtan. Just sit in the presence of a Realized Master. Madhya says, "This is a good way to enjoy I Am. Madhya > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > "Jerry M. Katz" umbada > > Snip....snip....... > > So how does one generate commitment? It is done, in my opinion, by > welcoming all who have any interest at all in realization, even if that > interest is 'against' realization; by fostering an individual's > slightest intuition of the nondual. It is done through acceptance of > anyone and everyone who has even an inkling of nondual intuition. It is > done by demonstrating that commitment is necessary, absolutely required. It > is done by creating an atmosphere in which it is realized that there is > nothing else in this life to do other than 'become' realized. > > That is something to think about. > > Jerry > > > Harsha: Thanks Jerryji Maharaj for stating it eloquently. All the great > sages and saints whether leading the life of an ascetic or that of a > householder (or perhaps something in between : - ) remind us to constantly > keep the goal of life in mind and at Heart until We See We Are the Goal and > The Heart. > > Sri Dirk Maharaj points beautifully at this and states, "The quality of life > that you talk about means for me relaxing enough to take in the mystery. IMO > going on a spiritual quest is always worthwhile. There are many great > teachers and great teachings. Undertaking this journey is a way of opening > to the universe. To show up and be willing in an outer relationship is an > acknowledgement of our inner relationship - our journey to a Self that was > never separate. When you are with a great teacher, the words that are spoken > are almost irrelevant." > > Harsha: We are never away from the Great Teacher and it is wonderful to see > the reflections of the Great Teacher "outside" in other teachers. And we > have wonderful Souls here who are one with us in this space. Which reminds > me that Sri Kurt Keutzer Maharaj has accepted our invitation to join the > . For that we are truly grateful. > > > ------ > Is ONElist important to you? Come to our new web site and share with > us your stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, madhya nandi wrote: > madhya nandi <madhya > > Shri Madhya Nandi says; > > Stop looking for anything. Stop thinking about anything. Just > practice. There is no enlightenment but practice. There is no God > but practice. Just meditate. Just chant God's name. Just sing > Kirtan. Just sit in the presence of a Realized Master. Madhya says, > "This is a good way to enjoy I Am. Cool ! i think this is a key to the heart of it all. May i add a point...? there is no good way or bad way. Just joy of now. my teacher said something like "Dont make anything, then you have nothing to lose!". Then when you look for the light rays shining from Guru's face, they are suddenly your own heartlights. When your sister cries, her tears are in your eyes. Seperation is the ultimate of these silly mindgames we play. Despite a battle w/this stupid virus, i have had the privilege of being in satsang (right word for teachings? another word?) last sunday until thursday. Every evening. We were up late too. I got very tired! I had to go back on Sunday to see Lama to finish getting a transmission for a teaching i had to leave early from. He was funny about that one. My friend had gotten up to leave (like me, she doesnt do late hours so well), so i took that time too to excuse myself. He looked at me mid-sentence and just said 'Where are you going'? Explained i was tired, feeling sick again, sorta begged that if i needed this, could we finish it later?? He was kind, let me go, so i came back on sunday to recieve the whole thing again. Now i dont speak more than a sentence or two of Tibetan, but these things happen on more than one level. It was powerful! i think epstein-barr is burning up bad karma. its making me feel more clear. tired, but clear. (very tired) Happy Tuesday! --janpa tsomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 1999 Report Share Posted February 23, 1999 Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) wrote: > > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > "Jerry M. Katz" umbada > > Snip....snip....... > > So how does one generate commitment? It is done, in my opinion, by > welcoming all who have any interest at all in realization, even if that > interest is 'against' realization; by fostering an individual's > slightest intuition of the nondual. It is done through acceptance of > anyone and everyone who has even an inkling of nondual intuition. It is > done by demonstrating that commitment is necessary, absolutely required. It > is done by creating an atmosphere in which it is realized that there is > nothing else in this life to do other than 'become' realized. > > That is something to think about. > > Jerry Gloria: How does one generate commitment, Jerry brought up. This is an important question. What I have seen is that when an individual is sincere and committed to God and is doing what comes to him/her in the discipline, he/she will automatically find that their commitment in their spiritual life will open up and extend to others in their circle all around, work, play, friends, etc. Participation in life means giving and receiving, it is like a time comes when the thirst for spirit is such that the world will not contain it. I have seen it working with the group here in Reno...which by the way has been together for a very long time almost 30 years. But a time came when each of the individuals begin to work their process with such focus that their circles at work or home/family became integrated into their experience and transformation spread out from their commitment. This experience is certainly a part of spirit teaching the individual in the flow of the moment and is always something that the individual knows he/she had nothing to do with. Meditation and silence is really the foundation, but being in that clarity through out the day which allows spirit to work in many sitatuions is really when the awareness is changed. This means becoming that vehicle for God to use, which often involves transforming ones experience by living in that detached state, and then being the witness of the process as it works into other lives. This experience is the Holy Spirit spreading the wings of the Dove, and really teaching in the non-dual state what can be as the ego/shadow is absorbed into Divine Will. Powerful experiences that only can manifest through total surrender To God. We live at such a dynamic time of change, to me the world is so pregnated with potential now that God is extending him/herself through totally unique methods that may never have existed before. Surrender to Divine Will sets the ripples flowing in every direction, who would have thought the internet would have connected all of us? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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