Guest guest Posted March 8, 1999 Report Share Posted March 8, 1999 Friends of Tantrasadhana; Persons on the list wishing to know more about tantra and sexuality. This is rather a challenging issue to address. First, tantra is a system of practice and a little bit of philosophy. It allows aspirants, through their own efforts, and the Grace of a Teacher, and in some cases, the Grace of a community of aspirants, the opportunity to grow spiritually. Spiritual growth can mean many things. If I told you that the by-product of devoted discipline and Grace will be that you will no longer resemble in any way, shape or fashion the human personality you thought that you were, what would your reaction be? If I told you that you would not possess a 'personality' in the normative sense of that term, how would you feel? With this in mind, let me say, whatever you are imagining that this might be like, it is not that. It is nothing like what you can possibly imagine. That is the essential truth about transformation, and in particular, tantric Sadhana. Tantra Sadhana is all about the energy of creativity, fertility and the Mother. Spiritual practice in general will benefit sexual relationships. Who makes the best lover, one who thinks primarily of his or her own needs, compulsions or fears when having sex, or one who is relaxed, comfortable with the body they occupy, and not particularly concerned about the quality of orgasm they may or may not have. All yogic practice properly engaged in will benefit sexual relationships. The best sex is usually had by the most relaxed and non-egoistic partners. Breathing exercises, yoga postures, etc., will impart relaxation and the relaxed body responds to pleasure far more erotically than the tense body. But, quite frankly, most human beings have no idea of what if feels like to truly be relaxed. How long can you sit without fidgeting or moving? How often do you sneeze, twitch, tap your feet to no particular tune? Do you notice that nearly everyone around you--possibly including yourself, are incapable of being still? How long can you look at a flame? Seated, on the floor, legs folded? How many times do your eyelids flutter? The orgasms one may have experienced in one's sex life are probably poor indicators of the quality of not only sex, but the erotic potential of how life can feel if one has surrendered, surrendered and surrendered some more. There lies more to be gained, oftentimes, in sublimating sexual energy than in exercising sexual energy out right. This may not be a popular idea for some 'seekers'. But if they are truly seeking Grace, wisdom and fitness for the Service of the community, nothing but discipline--and sometimes, asceticism--will be more effective. Now, there is asceticism and asceticism. One doesn't have to move to another country or engage in self-flagellation, (unless you really want to). Sublimation is the key to success when one combines sexuality with spiritual discipline. And, Bhakti, or sincere devotion. If a couple came to me, practiced with me for awhile, and I saw that they were full of love and devotion for God, AND wished to know how their sexuality might assist them in this endeavor, I might have some suggestions for them. More than likely, these suggestion would take the character of ceasing all spontaneous love-making. They would be encouraged to practice yoga, meditation and ritual nyasa for a month or two. Then they would be encouraged to plan a ritual that would include sexuality. But how and what I might say to this couple would depend on what I knew of them, the warmth of their spirits, what my intuition tells me. There is not much more that I can say than this. There are plenty of books around, from Margo Anand to Dr. Jonn Mumford--I recommend the latter. Sexuality is a marvelous positive fertile energy. But it is also the most dangerous to the spiritual aspirant, the most misunderstood, and misapplied. My general position is this: if you want to experiment--more power to you. But the chances of anything like true spiritual growth transpiring are nearly nil. But you will have fun and perhaps learn to know yourself and your partner better in the process. For true spiritual growth, that is, progress toward self-realization, dissolution of the ego-boundaries and the sense of difference that alienates individuals from their Whole Body, a word of mouth relationship with a Realized Master is the way. Good luck finding one of those. Dinu Roman is a Teacher in Florida. My impression is that he knows a great deal about both realization and sexuality. But I don't know much about him. You can read an essay by him at the Church of Tantra website. The movie Bliss, was interesting, but very misleading and steeped in reverse chauvinism. In Madhyanandi"s view, all persons are equally male and female. One doesn't need a partner of the 'other' sex to complement what one already Is. Ancient techniques were chauvinist in nature and structure. Men created them for themselves and other men. Worshipping "all naked woman" as Prakriti, or Nature is a crock. It is chauvinism pure and simple. Yes, the woman's body is an effective symbol and form for the Shakti of the Mother. Yes, the male body and phallus can be an effective symbol for the Pure Light of Shiva. But then, every human being possesses both phallus and vagina, linga and yoni. Both in the quality of energies that comprise your subtle body and in the middle of your face: mouth and tongue. <bigger><bigger><bigger><bigger>The Gnostic Soil </bigger></bigger></bigger>He stands tall on one arched foot, left leg crossing the right-- His pedestal, the flaxen pasture, spreads for miles in every direction, His arms are raised high, wide and lost to the pale sky, His radiant hair stands on end, reclining toward heaven. He is erect, His moistened linga poised between heaven and earth-- held in her adoring kiss. She is kneeling, breasts against His shining thigh, arms thrust behind, palms open, quivering in ecstasy, craving neither earth nor sky, only Him, warm and full in her waiting palate-- drunk with Him, drowning in Him, surrendering through her willowy hair the golden seed to the gnostic soil. Her silver Voice sings of heaven, His golden Dance furrows the musky earth, She- the bovine ground of His endless horizon, He- the quickening breath of Her eternal Song. Madhya Nandi </bigger>In any case, ask Madhya about the eroticism of everyday life, about the ecstasy of what occurs when one explores the senses in ways that one never before contemplated. Sex is terrific, but only a relatively small aspect of Tantra. You've read this before I know, but there it is. <bigger><bigger><bigger><bigger>Seduction Inside-Out </bigger></bigger></bigger>You want to know who you are? Your heart beats within-- Listen, with your eyes, Watch, with your ears, Feel from inside of your skin-- abandon all thoughts to the Sacred Percussion. The hour will arrive, blessed One, when the inner pulse soars and the heart's incantation grows sensuous as the chaste string surrendering love to the bow's liberating kiss. Return often, in devotion, to listen, watch, and feel the ecstatic rhythm, and in this lifetime, Beloved, you shall meet your Self. Madhya Nandi </bigger>Now, if you are still with me, if I told you that the most delicious, sin-sational, erotic ecstasy could be had by following the indications offerred in Seduction Inside-Out, would you believe me? Grace and Blessings to All, Madhya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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