Looking for some opinions here.

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Dear Tim,

>

> I think we are not in accord on a lot of issues. I might have more

time

> later to reply to you.

 

Stall.

>

> One point I will discuss now is "change." Change is a quality of

the

> lower regions, Physical, Astral, and Causal. My experience is that

> there is no change in the spiritual regions above the Causal Plane.

>

>

>

 

I agree. On that plane it is as you say. However, due to our

enlightenment

(whatever that is) we still exist in this plane until our ascension

which

comes in the course of the natural death that still must occur. What

is is

and we are still a part of that isness. I submit that, if, as you say,

there

is no change, and, as I believe, death is illusionary at best, then

'here'

is where we are. No matter what spiritual plane one considers

themselves to

be on, 'this' is still the reality apparent.

 

If then we say love, peace, and prosperity do we consider ourselves to

be

above the act of creation? Is God, or to be neutral 'that which we

individually believe to be 'one and sacred', above creation? I suggest

that

he is not. Then why should we claim to be also? Our words do not

change what

is. Our actions do. Jesus message was "do as I do". It was the words

of his

followers that stressed the miracles 'of' doing and not the doing

itself. No

wonder Jesus said "How long do I have to suffer you".

 

The message is clear. Creation is doing in what is. Those that claim

to be

this or that by any name are not fooling the masses but only making

them

stray. Is this your mission? To mislead by glorifying the finger that

points

and not what the finger is pointing too?

 

You are right! Understand this. I do not argue your philosophy! What I

am

saying is that we will wait for an eternity on the spiritual plains

until we

master creation on the physical planes. Is that not what God is?

Creation?

 

Regards.

 

Tim Harris