Guest guest Posted March 31, 1999 Report Share Posted March 31, 1999 "Meditation is not an act; meditation is a state of being. When one ceases to identify with thought, the mind becomes quiet. Then an abiding peace is experienced as a state of beingness, of eternal One-ness with the moment, not as a brief, time-bound act followed by return to wakeful agitation" "Thought is a process emanating from the past, known in the present and projecting into the future. Thought destroys the experience of the moment. When one is thinking, postulating, analyzing what is experienced, there is no existence here and now; the moment is destroyed. In this sense, thought is a kind of death." .... both by "yours truly" With Love, Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Poetry, Writings, Live Chat on Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 1999 Report Share Posted March 31, 1999 Meditation begins as an act, then becomes something more. The potential is allways there but only some can see it. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 1999 Report Share Posted March 31, 1999 >>> Meditation begins as an act, then becomes something more. The >>>potential is allways there but only some can see it. mike One of the best definitions of meditation I ever seen broke the word down into three parts Medi - healing as in medical Ta - Sanskrit for life Tion - action Meditation the action of healing life. Linda ------ If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! Onelist: Fostering connections and information exchange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 1999 Report Share Posted March 31, 1999 Hi Tim, >"Meditation is not an act; meditation is a state of being. When one ceases >to identify with thought, the mind becomes quiet. Then an abiding peace is >experienced as a state of beingness, of eternal One-ness with the moment, >not as a brief, time-bound act followed by return to wakeful agitation" This seems to be based on the assumption that thinking is all there is to do... and that if we once stop thinking, we will be in perfect stillness, doing nothing. It just ain't so... When you get beyond thinking, that's when the higher planes open up to you... there's a world of experience ahead of you... You don't really have to STOP your thinking... just do something else instead. ) >"Thought is a process emanating from the past, known in the present and >projecting into the future. Thought destroys the experience of the moment. > When one is thinking, postulating, analyzing what is experienced, there is >no existence here and now; the moment is destroyed. In this sense, thought >is a kind of death." Only if you're trying to stay higher than thinking... and you just can't do it... and keep slipping back... then it might seem a kind of death... Intellectual thinking is a very useful tool... like all tools, it has its place... and should be neatly put away when not in use. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 1999 Report Share Posted March 31, 1999 Hi Dharma, At 10:24 AM 3/31/99 -0600, you wrote: >Dharma <fisher1 > >Hi Tim, > >>"Meditation is not an act; meditation is a state of being. When one ceases >>to identify with thought, the mind becomes quiet. Then an abiding peace is >>experienced as a state of beingness, of eternal One-ness with the moment, >>not as a brief, time-bound act followed by return to wakeful agitation" > >This seems to be based on the assumption that thinking is all there is to >do... and that if we once stop thinking, we will be in perfect stillness, >doing nothing. It just ain't so... When you get beyond thinking, that's >when the higher planes open up to you... there's a world of experience >ahead of you... Yes... I wasn't suggesting at all that once thought stops, so does life. In fact, without thought in the way, life becomes a smooth, peaceful, unbroken flow, and it's always Now. "Psychological time" (as compared to "clock time") is entirely dependent on thought, and if thought is not active, time becomes timeless. J. Krishnamurti stated that fear is dependent on time and thought, and once thought is quiet, there is no real sense of "past" or "future," and thus no time... and ultimately, no more fear. >You don't really have to STOP your thinking... just do something else >instead. ) Anyone who tries to consciously stop their thinking is making a mistake. "Trying" to be in a state you're not already in creates a contradiction which generates even more noisy thought :-)... I think the key is to look deeply into the nature of thought, to dispassionately examine it, to act as "a witness" to everything, rather than seeing something and saying "this is good" or "this is bad." Just see things as they are, don't evaluate or pick apart or ponder or make something positive or negative of them. Abiding in that state, thought naturally becomes quiet of itself. With Love, Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Poetry, Writings, Live Chat on Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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