Guest guest Posted April 1, 1999 Report Share Posted April 1, 1999 Dear Gene, At 01:02 PM 4/1/99 -0800, you wrote: >magus (==Gene Poole==) >Such has been apparent to me since my early childhood; only in the last 20 >years has it made sense. You have been "one of the lucky ones" to perceive the mythology of social reality from early childhood. Yet I'm somewhat confused; you stated that you were raised in an authoritarian atmosphere, which is normally anaethemic to such childhood realization. It can only be Divine Grace that prepared the way for you in coming years. >Samskara, called by Buddha 'dukka', is 'du che', and is 'responsible' for >our suffering, insofar as we use it as the basis for our preferences and >thus reactions to conditions. Jiddu Krishnamurti defines this very simply in the western concept of "conflict." Thought is a mass of conflict arising mainly from the idea of "what we are" vs. "what we want to be." The solution to this, in his words, is to simply look dispassionately into the workings of the mind, to understand on a deep level the various social conditionings that have brought about this perpetual state of conflict. >In reality, all Beings have the potential to dwell consciously in any or >all dimensions, without difficulty. It is only the perception of >deficiency which binds one to a particular significance-layer. As long as >the bound being attempts to solve the non-problem of perceived deficiency, >the Being remains bound. Only when the bound Being realizes the >incorrectness of the assumption of deficiency, will the Being be unbound. Yes, and realizing the *totality* of our programming and conditioning is the key to freedom. To look at the fact that "we" as an individual personality are the product of not only our past experiences, but the experiences of mankind over centuries, and that no thought is original, is the beginning of freedom. Such a dispassionate look at the thought process tends to quiet thought, and a true and deep examination may indeed bring about the death of thought (intellect). >In detail, we see waves and compound waves. But it is important to note >that if we assume 'beginning' that we also then assume 'end'. The 'cause' >of these waves (which do indeed flash on and off as separate 'causeless' >entities) is karma, and karma is configured via samskara. While it is true >that there is no karma unless desire is present, we live in a 'karmic >universe' of our own creation. If we do not like certain aspects of this >self-created universe, we may simply cease 'making waves'. This cessation >is accomplished when each recognizes that taste (preference) potentially >initiates reaction (a wave). Again, very much in accordance with J. Krishnamurti's teachings, although expressed beautifully in your own words. >When the 'reinforced standing wave pattern' generated by >(attachment-fueled) reaction no longer is fed, the pattern collapases. If >this were to happen with you, you would become invisible, and you would >dwell soley in the realm of pure consciousness. Those who desire this >condition may apply themselves to non-attachment, so as to remove the fuel >which powers the standing wave pattern of 'self' or personality. One should be aware that to detach from every little detail in life could take years, or even more than one lifetime. To look at the totality of conditioning, to absorb it at a deep level, is to allow truth to work automatically, without intervention on our part. Once we "set the ball rolling," it will continue rolling without ever "gathering any moss." >"The mystic swims effortlessly in the same sea, in which the psychotic drowns" <grin>... >What ever it is, it is a powerful event to experience. No doubt about that. In fact, I had an "experience" that was indescribable except in relation to the term "SatChitAnanda" last night. If thought/intellect had not intervened, I would probably be there still. Suffice it to say, it was like touching a single drop of the Divine. A single precious drop of Eternity fell upon me (or I upon It), and just that little drop was enough to effect a change in and through every cell of this body. I can only imagine the effect of "drinking the full drought..." and what it might be to live in permanent union with the Infinite. >Yes, and how much challenge on several 'levels'. Who is speaking? When communicating with someone now, and asked "who is speaking," it seems a deep mystery, yet a lovely one. Why take it as a challenge? Thought arises when the need or "desire" to use it arises, and dies again when there is no purpose for it. >Well... not to quibble... but I must amplify the concept of 'accept' here. >I offer that there is no 'accept' and no 'nonaccept'. What then, do we have >'instead'? A simple dispassionate LOOKING at *WHAT IS*, without bringing "this" or "that" into the matter, without being unhappy where we are and "wanting to change." It is the conflict that arises between "where we are now" and "where we want to be" that might be described as "the root of all evil." >Tolerance admits the existence of 'other'. Tolerance (which is actually >quite rare as a human behaviour) confirms that we have difficulty and >attachments, and further, it relieves us of the terrible burden of idealism >which drives 'the search'. Precisely! You have "the gift of Sight," Gene. >Integrity is indeed wholeness, and the attitude of wholeness, if I may coin >a phrase, is the attitude of inclusion, rather than of exclusion. 'Mind' >'rules out' in order to define; thus mind is (in usual practice) exclusive >and thus anti-wholistic. The best thing for mind to "do" is to shut up and be quiet, IMO :-) >The usual 'problem-solving' process is one of excluding. While this may be >fine in some mental operations, exclusion is a bad habit which is deeply >ingrained, at least in 'western mind'. Actually, I would postulate that it has deeply invaded the "Eastern mind" at this point as well. For example, what is apparent in India today? Another extension of the arms race, military spending so they won't be "invaded again," and a relentless Westernization, as all parts of the world seem to be subject to these days. After centuries of "spiritual teachings," where is India today? The system there is just as "institutionalized" as in the West, the social conditioning there runs just as deep. There are thousands of "Swamis" and "Gurus" running around, and to what avail? I think this is an important question to be looked at deeply. With Love, Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Poetry, Writings, Live Chat on Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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