Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 Greetings. A question: I know that the Bhodisattvas were once humans. However are Purna Avatars, like Krishna, manifestations of Isvara or was the Avatar once a human. I tend to think this is the case????? That they are remnants used by Isvara, within illusion. Love Tony. _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 The message <19990407165748.13359.rocketmail from "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery contains these words: > Tony O'Clery <aoclery > Greetings. > A question: I know that the Bhodisattvas were once humans. However are > Purna Avatars, like Krishna, manifestations of Isvara or was the Avatar > once a human. I tend to think this is the case????? That they are > remnants used by Isvara, within illusion. > Love Tony. > _______ > > Get your free @ address at > ------ > Tired of empty chat rooms and out of date bulletin boards? > http://www.ONElist.com > ONElist: Making the Internet Intimate Dear List I am impressed with the depth of knowledge in the question put by Tony. I await the answer with baited breath. I have got as far as understanding that Purna Avatars are divine incarnations who have all sixteen atributes ( cant remember them all) and they have these "abilites" without having to meditate or go through austerities that could possibly bring several of these atributes to a a very devoute Yogi. In my simple way I see them as God becoming man rather than man becoming God. Am I right in this simple asumption???? I am happy to learn at the feet of so many spiritual people. Chris Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 Tony O'Clery [aoclery] Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:58 PM Descents. Tony O'Clery <aoclery Greetings. A question: I know that the Bhodisattvas were once humans. However are Purna Avatars, like Krishna, manifestations of Isvara or was the Avatar once a human. I tend to think this is the case????? That they are remnants used by Isvara, within illusion. Love Tony. Harsha: Tony, that is an interesting point. The subject of Avatars is complex and I don't know if I am qualified to discuss it. I was born in a Hindu family. My impression as I was growing up was that Avatars are viewed differently depending on which branch of Hinduism one belongs to. Both of my grandfathers (Advaitins) viewed Avatars as Mahapurusha (as Great Humans manifesting some aspect of God, but human nevertheless) and did not visit temples for worship (God being everywhere, why go to a special place). My aunts, however, could not get enough of temples, Avatars, Deities, and their worship. Personally, I have always enjoyed visiting all kinds of temples (Hindu or not). About three or so years ago, my teacher Chitrabhanu Ji inaugurated the opening of the Jain Temple in Chicago. It is huge and very beautifully done in Indian style. It was a great occasion. The food was great and the company was excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 1999 Report Share Posted April 7, 1999 On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Chris Hughes wrote: > Yogi. In my simple way I see them as God becoming man rather than man > becoming God. > Am I right in this simple asumption???? i dont understand the difference myself. both things are labels...can i ask what the imputed difference base of the label is in both cases? in the world as it has been seen by these eyes. all these things called divine or whatever are no more than a pristine luminous clarity. i dont understand the label 'god'. in the same sense, i can very easily destroy understanding of the label 'human'. like if a human is one who sees and recognizes herself as such, she can look inside her skin for herself. she wont find herself, she will find bones and skin and blood & stuff. she can look inside those and find cells and molecules, protiens and carbs. Inside those are compound chains and atoms. inside those is just energy. light. so if all things are based on this way of this energy or light how is anything seperate from anything else? and how do these labels 'goddess' and 'human' function? Human being is typing. but is there anyone really home in her head? a seperate someone? does this make sense? or is it just horns on a rabbit? -janpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 1999 Report Share Posted April 8, 1999 You wrote: > >like if a human is one who sees and recognizes herself as such, she can >look inside her skin for herself. she wont find herself, she will find >bones and skin and blood & stuff. she can look inside those and find cells >and molecules, protiens and carbs. Inside those are compound chains and >atoms. inside those is just energy. light. so if all things are based on >this way of this energy or light how is anything seperate from anything >else? and how do these labels 'goddess' and 'human' function? Human being >is typing. but is there anyone really home in her head? a seperate >someone? > >does this make sense? or is it just horns on a rabbit? > It would make sense, but there's nobody home who's sensible! (p.s. nice post) H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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