Guest guest Posted April 17, 1999 Report Share Posted April 17, 1999 At 11:12 AM 4/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >"Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress >The only answer that is clean is to recognize that only God has the answers, >by keeping the thoughts, emotions and judgments out of the way...we can >focus on Divine Will and know that whatever comes in this will be perfect. >God watches after folks in even the worst conditions, perhaps God's Mercy >will be manifest while in the midst of total madness. One may also choose to recognize the law of karma, as has been done throughout the ages. We create our own circumstances and our own suffering. Those now living in Kosovo, as well as all ethnic albanians suffering as a result of this, have brought this karma upon themselves as a result of actions in previous lifetimes. Where and when one is born is no accident. Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 1999 Report Share Posted April 17, 1999 Can we go into this a little more, Tim? This comment of yours about Albanians suffering for their past Karma is just a little troubling, as it implies a whole can of worms. Does it mean that Albanians are discrete and permanent "souls" that reincarnate to reap their reward? If that's it then my "soul" can look at the question with a degree of aloofness and even apathy. I'm not involved: it's their Karma, not mine. I think even Gandhi was supposed to have said something like that about the lower castes. I don't want this to escalate into another verbal squabble, but let's just say that attitude is perplexing. What if it's the case that others suffer because of *my* actions? Would that also be true? Or not? Or maybe it's the case that "suffering" is an unexamined assumption. Pain and death are not equal to suffering, except in the vague sense in which terms are confused. The Buddha died but did not "suffer"? How we perceive and relate to the world "out there" is as important spiritually as is private meditation. What is the connection I wonder? Phil > Tim Gerchmez <fewtch > > At 11:12 AM 4/17/99 -0700, you wrote: > >"Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress > > >The only answer that is clean is to recognize that only God has the answers, > >by keeping the thoughts, emotions and judgments out of the way...we can > >focus on Divine Will and know that whatever comes in this will be perfect. > >God watches after folks in even the worst conditions, perhaps God's Mercy > >will be manifest while in the midst of total madness. > > One may also choose to recognize the law of karma, as has been done > throughout the ages. We create our own circumstances and our own > suffering. Those now living in Kosovo, as well as all ethnic albanians > suffering as a result of this, have brought this karma upon themselves as a > result of actions in previous lifetimes. Where and when one is born is no > accident. > > Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 1999 Report Share Posted April 17, 1999 ---------- >Tim Gerchmez <fewtch > >Cc: hueland, lodpress >Re: kundalini-digest V1 #130 >Sat, Apr 17, 1999, 11:48 AM > >At 11:12 AM 4/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >>"Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress > >>The only answer that is clean is to recognize that only God has the answers, >>by keeping the thoughts, emotions and judgments out of the way...we can >>focus on Divine Will and know that whatever comes in this will be perfect. >>God watches after folks in even the worst conditions, perhaps God's Mercy >>will be manifest while in the midst of total madness. > >One may also choose to recognize the law of karma, as has been done >throughout the ages. We create our own circumstances and our own >suffering. Those now living in Kosovo, as well as all ethnic albanians >suffering as a result of this, have brought this karma upon themselves as a >result of actions in previous lifetimes. Where and when one is born is no >accident. Gg This is true, but it is also important to have compassion since one can not judge what is taking place. > >Tim > >----- >Visit The Core of the WWW at: >http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html >Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. > >Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: >http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 1999 Report Share Posted April 18, 1999 Tim Gerchmez wrote: > > One may also choose to recognize the law of karma, as has been done > throughout the ages. I don't recognize it. You don't have to either. It may have been recognized throughout the ages, but all the ages stop at my doorstep. You know what I mean? >We create our own circumstances and our own > suffering. Those now living in Kosovo, as well as all ethnic albanians > suffering as a result of this, have brought this karma upon themselves as a > result of actions in previous lifetimes. Where and when one is born is no > accident. > > Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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