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Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:29:25 -0700

Tim Gerchmez <fewtch

Melody/Re: Karma

 

Dear Melody,

 

At 08:59 PM 4/19/99 -0500, you wrote:

>Melody <melody

>Good gracias! So many opportunitities to stay

>asleep. So seductive the resistance to Truth...

>to continue to nod unawares in the realm of Karma.

 

<< Ain't that the truth. Almost nobody realizes the absolutely cunning,

baffling and powerful nature of ego, of sense pleasures, of full mind,

of empty heart, of hatred and anger and fear and pride and all the rest.

>>

 

It's a belief also, that nobody realizes the nature of ego, no?

 

<< It's like a bunch of devils. To begin to realize this is to begin to

learn how to outwit that which blocks a person from Truth. To realize

it fully is to begin to actually *outwit* this madness we call "everyday

life." >>

 

Enjoying ones 'beliefs' can be a choice according to others 'beliefs'. I

like the word implant, in that matter, they seem to react to or create a

form of Truth unique to each, away from choice, creathing the perfect

illusion.

 

The belief that others changed when ones come back is a strange belief

from the one who comes back. Is it not the one who left for a while who

changed? Or all? Or did he ever leave? Is there a change? Was there a

change? What is change, if not another belief?

 

What is a belief?

 

Antoine

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Dear Antoine,

 

Your questions, though addressed to me,

were addressing Tim's words, rather than

mine it seems.

 

I say 'it seems', because although

those were Tim's words you were addressing,

your post is synchronistically, right

on the spot for me, and if Tim doesn't

mind, I would appreciate walking with you

a bit here....

 

you said:

(snip)

>Enjoying ones 'beliefs' can be a choice according to others 'beliefs'. I

>like the word implant, in that matter, they seem to react to or create a

>form of Truth unique to each, away from choice, creathing the perfect

>illusion.

>

>The belief that others changed when ones come back is a strange belief

>from the one who comes back. Is it not the one who left for a while who

>changed? Or all? Or did he ever leave? Is there a change? Was there a

>change? What is change, if not another belief?

>

>What is a belief?

 

 

Belief is a perception - self originating

or not - that attaches itself to the 'eye',

such that it becomes a 'tinting' of ones

perceptual lens.

 

As to change...hmmm....

 

I notice, when operating in the realm of the

personality (which is still most all of the

time <s>), that as other people's perceptions

of me change...it inevitably, changes their

behavior towards me....which then effects

(though sometimes only subtly) not only my own

behavior towards them, and my perception of

them as well, but also my behavior and thoughts

in general.

 

Thus WE, the collective 'we' in the engagement,

have not changed - at the core - yet, perhaps

due to one sometimes 'mistaken' perception, our

total relationship has altered, and sometimes,

our interactions with others has changed, as well.

 

So, perhaps the answer would be.. that

which is eternal and truth has not

changed....only the dreamscape, the

landscape (or sandbox)...changes.

 

And when we finally 'see' this.....

this dream dance we are living...we find

that we are no longer subject to such

change-ability.

 

Antoine, your style of 'asking questions'

suits me very well, and if you don't mind

walking further (should more questions

come to mind), I would appreciate them

sincerely, as there seems to be something

underneath all this for me which is seeking

to see the light of day.

 

in appreciation,

Melody

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