Guest guest Posted April 22, 1999 Report Share Posted April 22, 1999 My Dear, Beautiful and Wonderful Friends, As you know a is embedded in the philosophy of Nonviolence. The Sanskrit term for that is Ahimsa. Practice of Ahimsa means the practice of non-injury. Spiritual practices to have True Insight into the nature of the Self bear fruit when Nonviolence is the natural context. In feeling amity and love for all living beings, the fundamental fears that constitute the individual identity lose their grip, and then the Ultimate Conscious Relaxation can happen at all levels for Self-Recognition. Practice and Understanding of the true nature of Ahimsa leads to a calm and tranquil mind, which allows one to abide as I AM. Great Sages have said, Ahimsa is the highest expression of Self-Realization. Ahimsa is both the means to root out the deepest fears and the end as the nature of the Self is Perfect Peace, Perfect Ahimsa. Keeping this theme in mind for , a steering committee is being formed of people experienced either inside various spiritual traditions or outside them but committed to philosophy of Ahimsa and Divine Love. I have been thinking of the potential name of the council and Jan recently advised that word Ahimsa should be in it which makes sense to me. How does this sound - Ahimsa Council Of World Peace and Love. It is a bit long but the acronym (ACOWPAL) will be easy to remember as Hindus have long held the Cow to be a sacred animal. Please do not hesitate to speak up on the name or if you think that this is a weak attempt at humor on my part. Any feed back is appreciated. Thanks. Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 1999 Report Share Posted April 22, 1999 "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" wrote: > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > My Dear, Beautiful and Wonderful Friends, > > As you know a is embedded in the philosophy of Nonviolence. > The Sanskrit term for that is Ahimsa. Practice of Ahimsa means the practice > of non-injury. Spiritual practices to have True Insight into the nature of > the Self bear fruit when Nonviolence is the natural context. But what of us warriors Harsha? Is their room for us? We are those that, only after becoming so fierce and so violent with our words and actions that soon, all were afraid to engage us for fear of seeing their own reflection and what they might become. Did not this also create in us a state of nonviolence? In other words... we have no need to be violent for we have claimed the victory for all men and women by conquering violence itself rather than skirt around it. We fought the battles that most were terrified to fight and yet, so that all could know, we fought for them to the other side and now here we sit together around the same circle. Surely, there is room for us. Regards. Sri Pra Eun -- For more information on the CASUAL ENLIGHTENMENT METHOD please visit: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/4908/index.html ICQ # 34365156 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 1999 Report Share Posted April 22, 1999 ---------- >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar >From Gloria > >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > >My Dear, Beautiful and Wonderful Friends, > > As you know a is embedded in the philosophy of Nonviolence. >The Sanskrit term for that is Ahimsa. Practice of Ahimsa means the practice >of non-injury. Spiritual practices to have True Insight into the nature of >the Self bear fruit when Nonviolence is the natural context. In feeling >amity and love for all living beings, the fundamental fears that constitute >the individual identity lose their grip, and then the Ultimate Conscious >Relaxation can happen at all levels for Self-Recognition. Practice and >Understanding of the true nature of Ahimsa leads to a calm and tranquil >mind, which allows one to abide as I AM. Great Sages have said, Ahimsa is >the highest expression of Self-Realization. Ahimsa is both the means to root >out the deepest fears and the end as the nature of the Self is Perfect >Peace, Perfect Ahimsa. Keeping this theme in mind for , a >steering committee is being formed of people experienced either inside >various spiritual traditions or outside them but committed to philosophy of >Ahimsa and Divine Love. I have been thinking of the potential name of the >council and Jan recently advised that word Ahimsa should be in it which >makes sense to me. How does this sound - Ahimsa Council Of World Peace and >Love. It is a bit long but the acronym (ACOWPAL) will be easy to remember as >Hindus have long held the Cow to be a sacred animal. Please do not hesitate >to speak up on the name or if you think that this is a weak attempt at humor >on my part. Any feed back is appreciated. Thanks. Hi Harsha, This is a beautiful inspiration since it is really needed in the world at this hour. And there really isn't an understanding of what it is. Most feel... how can you love those who would harm you or your family, etc. Recently on the k list there has been a pretty big rift because one person who is from Croatia said he prayed for war and didn't want to hear the lightwork crap because people who are saying this have never lived in the position and don't have the foggiest idea of what they are talking about.And while the refugees are in hell, they to know that the only answer is war since they were getting killed and terrorized daily while living in Kosovo and that would go on indefinitely unless someone comes in an kicks... It was said much more artfully then what I can state, but the results led to a pretty harsh verbal exchange from people who are not normally this way at all. The thing is those who have not been faced with physical harm or seeing those around them killed, raped, etc...really can move into the space of intellectually and maybe even heart wise feeling and believing that nonviolence is the answer. AND IT IS THE ANSWER, however, it is very easy for people to intellectually and mentally try to create this...when it isn't something anyone can do. One moves into it through the action of letting go and facing those energies of hate, prejudice, etc... head on. I and speak somewhat from this because I work with children who have been sexually abused, the kids with me now have a step father going to trail for 18 counts of sexual abuse. They are very angry and hurt with great pain inside. While in this state it is very easy to get into very black things because the confusion in the mind opens them up to violence, hate, and what we just saw happen in Colorado a couple of days ago. Just six weeks ago one of our foster daughters had the music and writings that those kids who did the act were into, this thinking breeds hatred and violence. To be in this energy...or frequency is very different then sitting quietly in the meditators dwelling following the work and way to enlightenment and coming up with a beautiful idealistic concept of what life is and should be. I can tell you from my own experience, I do face those energies head on out of body very frequently and the only way to be totally untouched is through love and total interior knowing of who you are. So for me personally, I am 100% in align with nonviolence, because it is fact, but we also have to understand that in order to have the real thing and not some created idea...of what Domchi called....new age light crap...it has to come from a very different place inside. I would also say that those individuals who find themselves led to do this because it is who and where they are... each person should understand from 100% realization that it will be tested. And if it is not lived and only talked about it will create more harm then good. It is very easy to talk about such a thing, the challenge is to live it and be it. Do you understand what I am saying. Gloria > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 1999 Report Share Posted April 22, 1999 > "Gloria Joy Greco" <lodpress > > > ---------- > >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > >From Gloria > > > > >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > > >My Dear, Beautiful and Wonderful Friends, > > > > As you know a is embedded in the philosophy of > Nonviolence. > >The Sanskrit term for that is Ahimsa. Practice of Ahimsa means > the practice > >of non-injury. Spiritual practices to have True Insight into the > nature of > >the Self bear fruit when Nonviolence is the natural context. [...] > Hi Harsha, > This is a beautiful inspiration since it is really needed in the world > at this hour. And there really isn't an understanding of what it is. Most > feel... how can you love those who would harm you or your family, etc. > Recently on the k list there has been a pretty big rift because one person > who is from Croatia said he prayed for war and didn't want to hear the > lightwork crap because people who are saying this have never lived in the > position and don't have the foggiest idea of what they are > talking about. [...] When living in Holland, the former Yugoslavia was visited quite often as my job offered a vacation of six weeks. Because the issue of war was off-topic on the K-list, I took it to private E-mail. Part of my last response, referring to W.W. II, can be listed as it doesn't violate privacy: <<From my visits to the former Yugoslavia I remember that no one objected the term "Serbian colonialism" (apart from the Serbs of course) so the difference is clear. As history shows that former colonies as a rule become colonialists or suppressors of human rights themselves (Indonesia is a great example) it is too early to draw conclusions already, unless the Balkan memory of history is erased But I wouldn't be surprised if there would be a new yearly celebration, "independence from Milosovic day" so the hate can flourish even 1000 years from now (that is, if humanity isn't wiped out by then >> This is the crux of the matter: the well meant celebration in memory of victims does the job of retaining the hatred. One shouldn't forget that in some Mediterranean countries / areas vendetta still is committed. So I do not even think of how the Serbs will translate their presently perceived martyrdom into history. If Ahimsa has to mean something, it has to be offered as a complete package, an alternative way of living that leaves no choice and will transform society. In order to beaccepted, at least the social aspects of this package must have a scientific basis. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 >When living in Holland, the former Yugoslavia was visited quite often as my >job offered a vacation of six weeks. Because the issue of war was off-topic >on the K-list, I took it to private E-mail. Part of my last response, >referring to W.W. II, can be listed as it doesn't violate privacy: <<From my visits to the former Yugoslavia I remember that no one objected >the term "Serbian colonialism" (apart from the Serbs of course) so the >difference is clear. As history shows that former colonies as a rule become >colonialists or suppressors of human rights themselves (Indonesia is a great >example) it is too early to draw conclusions already, unless the Balkan >memory of history is erased But I wouldn't be surprised if there would be >a new yearly celebration, "independence from Milosovic day" so the hate can >flourish even 1000 years from now (that is, if humanity isn't wiped out by >then >> >This is the crux of the matter: the well meant celebration in memory of >victims does the job of retaining the hatred. One shouldn't forget that in >some Mediterranean countries / areas vendetta still is committed. So I do >not even think of how the Serbs will translate their presently perceived >martyrdom into history. >If Ahimsa has to mean something, it has to be offered as a complete package, >an alternative way of living that leaves no choice and will transform >society. In order to beaccepted, at least the social aspects of this package >must have a scientific basis. Jan Hi Jan: The point you have brought up about well-intentioned celebration in memory of victims is a very good one. Sometimes it is forgotten just how powerful thought can be, I for one, never really gave much thought to the various celebrations that we have honoring war, victims and war heroes but what you say makes sense. Being a ripe old 48 I was fairly horrified when in my 30s I watched the resurgence of neo-nazi attiitudes in some young people. What I realized was that Hitler's thoughts were still very much alive in the universe and just waiting for the proper minds to latch on to them. If those thoughts can stay alive we must all practice using our own thoughts to present ahimisa - those thought projections also survive in the universe and can act as a counterbalance. Linda ------ Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? http://www.ONElist.com Come join one of the 130,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 Hi Linda, >The point you have brought up about well-intentioned celebration in memory >of victims is a very good one. Sometimes it is forgotten just how powerful >thought can be, I for one, never really gave much thought to the various >celebrations that we have honoring war, victims and war heroes but what you >say makes sense. Being a ripe old 48 I was fairly horrified when in my 30s >I watched the resurgence of neo-nazi attiitudes in some young people. What >I realized was that Hitler's thoughts were still very much alive in the >universe and just waiting for the proper minds to latch on to them. If >those thoughts can stay alive we must all practice using our own thoughts to >present ahimisa - those thought projections also survive in the universe and >can act as a counterbalance. This brings to mind the movie "The Americanization of Emily," in which the James Garner character tells a British woman that she shouldn't worship the men who died in WWII as "war heroes," because that just perpetuates war. He freely admits to being a coward... and thinks the world would be a better place if more people would refuse to fight. And even though he's in the service, he's doing his best to stay away from the fighting. It's a comedy, so you can imagine where he ends up... on Omaha Beach, running the wrong way, trying to get back to the ship! ))) Watch it if you see it on the late movie channels! Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 1999 Report Share Posted April 23, 1999 Dear Dharma: Thanks for the information - due to a strange work schedule I am often up for late night movies and could use a laugh. Linda .. >This brings to mind the movie "The Americanization of Emily," in which the >James Garner character tells a British woman that she shouldn't worship the >men who died in WWII as "war heroes," because that just perpetuates war. >He freely admits to being a coward... and thinks the world would be a >better place if more people would refuse to fight. And even though he's in >the service, he's doing his best to stay away from the fighting. It's a >comedy, so you can imagine where he ends up... on Omaha Beach, running the >wrong way, trying to get back to the ship! ))) >Watch it if you see it on the late movie channels! Love, Dharma ------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 1999 Report Share Posted April 24, 1999 Never seen that movie, although it sounds good. Support your local sherriff and support your local gunfighter were good James Garner comedies. Linda Callanan <shastra < > Friday, April 23, 1999 7:35 AM Re: Ahimisa Council "Linda Callanan" <shastra Dear Dharma: Thanks for the information - due to a strange work schedule I am often up for late night movies and could use a laugh. Linda . >This brings to mind the movie "The Americanization of Emily," in which the >James Garner character tells a British woman that she shouldn't worship the >men who died in WWII as "war heroes," because that just perpetuates war. >He freely admits to being a coward... and thinks the world would be a >better place if more people would refuse to fight. And even though he's in >the service, he's doing his best to stay away from the fighting. It's a >comedy, so you can imagine where he ends up... on Omaha Beach, running the >wrong way, trying to get back to the ship! ))) >Watch it if you see it on the late movie channels! Love, Dharma ------ Did you know that we add over 1,000 new e-mail communities every day? http://www.ONElist.com Explore a new hobby, discover a new friend, laugh at a new joke! ------ V-Tech Computer For Kids! Challenge your kids with activities in math, trivia, vocabulary, spelling, grammer! Looks just like your PC! No- Hassle Returns*Satisfaction Guaranteed*Only $90.00 Free Freight in US /ad/shoptheglobe7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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